1. Lehi Dominic Fish, son of David Aaron Fish and Ella Patricia Allred, was born on 6 May 2006.
Second Generation 
2. David Aaron Fish, son of George Michael Fish and Jennifer Laraine Tatem, was born on 17 May 1981 in Tallahassee, Leon, Florida, United States.
David married Ella Patricia Allred on 29 Oct 2004. Ella was born on 24 Jan 1983.
Children from this marriage were:
1 i. Lehi Dominic Fish (born on 6 May 2006)
ii. Hyrum James Fish was born on 3 Jul 2008 in Mobile, Mobile, Alabama, United States.
3. Ella Patricia Allred, daughter of Kevin Allred and Carlene, was born on 24 Jan 1983.
Ella married David Aaron Fish on 29 Oct 2004. David was born on 17 May 1981 in Tallahassee, Leon, Florida, United States.
Third Generation 
4. George Michael Fish,1 2 3 son of LeRoy Paschal Fish and Carol Jean Kirk, was born on 14 Feb 1953 in Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States and was christened on 22 May 1954 in Sacred Heart, Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States.
• First Communion: 23 Apr 1961, Winslow, Navajo, Arizona, United States. Source: LeRoy Paschal Fish family Bible.
• Confirmation: 20 Feb 1965, St. Mary's, Palmdale, Los Angeles, California, United States. Confirmation name Peter.
George married Jennifer Laraine Tatem on 10 Jun 1980 in Mormon Temple, Washington, District of Columbia, United States.4 The marriage ended in divorce in 1985. Jennifer was born on 18 Sep 1959 in Fort Stewart, Liberty, Georgia, United States.
Marriage Notes: Source: LeRoy Paschal Fish family Bible.
Children from this marriage were:
2 i. David Aaron Fish (Relationship to Father: Biological, Relationship to Mother: Biological ) (born on 17 May 1981 in Tallahassee, Leon, Florida, United States)
ii. Kenneth LeRoy Fish (Relationship to Father: Biological, Relationship to Mother: Biological ) was born on 14 Jan 1983 in Tallahassee, Leon, Florida, United States.
iii. Michelle Laraine Fish (Relationship to Father: Biological, Relationship to Mother: Biological ) was born on 14 Dec 1983 in Tallahassee, Leon, Florida, United States.
George next married Karen Gail Johnson,5 daughter of DeWayne Burton Johnson and Lorna Doone Wallace, on 30 Jun 1990 in Northridge, Los Angeles, California, United States. Karen was born on 2 Aug 1947 in Berkeley, Alameda, California, United States.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Michelle Laraine Fish (Relationship to Father: Biological, Relationship to Mother: Step ) was born on 14 Dec 1983 in Tallahassee, Leon, Florida, United States.
2 ii. David Aaron Fish (Relationship to Father: Biological, Relationship to Mother: Step ) (born on 17 May 1981 in Tallahassee, Leon, Florida, United States)
iii. Kenneth LeRoy Fish (Relationship to Father: Biological, Relationship to Mother: Step ) was born on 14 Jan 1983 in Tallahassee, Leon, Florida, United States.
5. Jennifer Laraine Tatem, daughter of Kenneth Earl Tatem and Phala Carmen Jordan, was born on 18 Sep 1959 in Fort Stewart, Liberty, Georgia, United States.
Jennifer married George Michael Fish 1 2 3 on 10 Jun 1980 in Mormon Temple, Washington, District of Columbia, United States.4 The marriage ended in divorce in 1985. George was born on 14 Feb 1953 in Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States and was christened on 22 May 1954 in Sacred Heart, Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States.
Jennifer next married Roy Tompkins about 1986.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Michelle Laraine Fish (Relationship to Father: Step, Relationship to Mother: Biological ) was born on 14 Dec 1983 in Tallahassee, Leon, Florida, United States.
2 ii. David Aaron Fish (Relationship to Father: Step, Relationship to Mother: Biological ) (born on 17 May 1981 in Tallahassee, Leon, Florida, United States)
iii. Kenneth LeRoy Fish (Relationship to Father: Step, Relationship to Mother: Biological ) was born on 14 Jan 1983 in Tallahassee, Leon, Florida, United States.
6. Kevin Allred .
Kevin married Carlene.
Children from this marriage were:
3 i. Ella Patricia Allred (born on 24 Jan 1983)
ii. Forrest Allred
iii. Soren Allred
iv. Flint Allred
7. Carlene .
Carlene married Kevin Allred.
Fourth Generation 
8. LeRoy Paschal Fish,6 7 son of Joseph Pascal Fish and Clara Mae Carnal, was born on 21 Aug 1928 in Peoria, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States, was christened on 15 Aug 1948 in Sambongi, Japan, died on 6 Sep 1983 in Rex Hospital, Raleigh, Wake, North Carolina, United States at age 55, and was buried in Raleigh Memorial Park, Raleigh, Wake, North Carolina, United States.
Christening Notes: Roman Catholic
Death Notes: Source: Certificate of Death.
Cause of Death: Metastatic adenocarcinoma
State of North Carolina Inheritance and Estate Tax Certification File No. 83-E-1060:
:In the Matter of the Estate of: Deceased LeRoy Paschal Fish, Date of Death September 6, 1983"
Research Notes: From memoirs of Carol Jean Kirk Fish around 2002:
LeRoy Paschal Fish was born August 21, 1928 in Ottawa County Oklahoma. The mailing address was Baxter Springs Kansas. He was born at home to Clara May Carnal Fish and Joseph Paschal Fish. Clara's father was Solomon Carnal and Joseph's was Leander Jackson Fish. His Grandmother was Mary but I know nothing more about that.
When Joseph was about 12 years old his father served as representative of the Quapaw tribe in Washington DC. Joseph got to be a congressional page. By blood they were primarily Wyandotte-Shawnee, Miami and Delaware, but Paschal Fish, Leander's father, had sold his headright in the Shawnee tribe and been adopted by the Quapaw in Northeastern Oklahoma.
LeRoy was the third child of his mother's marriage; Mary Kathryn was four yrs old and Dorothy May was 18 months. Four years later Frederick Marvin was born, but he died at age two from eating glass from a broken sugar bowl. I do not know that even in this day and age anything could be done for him, but nothing could be done then. Later Clara Eudora was born in 1935 then Wynona Francis in 1937. Their mother was either pregnant with Wynona or Wynona was only three months old when Mr. Fish died of what was believed to be Bright's Disease. LeRoy was 9 years old.
The previous year LeRoy had colitis so badly he had a temperature of 108 degrees and was packed in ice. Although he was in a coma a good deal of the time, he can remember people praying over him. When he came back to the world his mom had little porcelain dogs for him. He said, "they won't have fleas."
The place where they lived was very rural and often if a neighbor wanted to visit in the evening, he or she carried a lantern to light the way. There is a legend in the area about a mysterious light that could be seen coming down the road. LeRoy said that once when his parents sent him to meet the coming guest, there was no one there. According to the story, the corps of engineers investigated these phenomena but found no reason for it. it was called the "Spook Light" and a lot of teenagers used this as an excuse to park on that road and "wait for the light." there are a lot of legends in the area, it is definitely Indian territory; but this is the most popular one.
After Mr. Fish died life became very hard for the family. Clara married the brother of her sister's husband. They lived in Colorado and missed a whole year of school because of weather. ... Clara went back to Oklahoma where she worked in a cafe in Commerce. The two younger girls were placed in a home in Oklahoma City because she couldn't provide for them. Years later when LeRoy got a military allotment for them when he was in the Army Air Force they were able to return Home. I don't know where Kathryn was during this period. At age 14 after a lot of bad happenings for her she divorced him and came home. I think this was when she started working at the drug store. Sometime during this period LeRoy was sent to live with his Uncle Earl Carnal in Arizona. Earl had 2 daughters and a son. LeRoy felt like a true outsider, treated he felt as a poor relation instead of a nephew who was loved. Sometime in here he rode the bus back to Commerce. He had to hunt to find out where his mom was and from that point he stayed with her until he graduated from high school and joined the Army Air Force (it was some time later that Arizona Air Force became separate from the Army).
When he was in the military, he quickly rose to Sergeant and was head of the radar shop where he worked. He was the youngest person there so he grew a mustache to look older. This was in occupied Japan. Although the war was over, the status was still wartime because of the dangers involved in occupying a country.
I know very little else about his early years.
LeRoy married Carol Jean Kirk 8 on 24 Jun 1950 in Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States.9 Carol was born on 8 Jul 1932 in Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States, died on 7 Feb 2008 in Raleigh, Wake, North Carolina, United States10 at age 75, and was buried on 9 Feb 2008 in Raleigh Memorial Park, Raleigh, Wake, North Carolina, United States.
• Holy Matrimony: in Holy Roman Catholic Church, 22 May 1954, Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States. Recorded in LeRoy Paschal Fish family Bible.
Children from this marriage were:
i. David Paschal Fish 11 2 12 was born on 7 Apr 1951 in Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States, was christened on 22 May 1954 in Sacred Heart, Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States, and died on 28 Sep 1979 at age 28.
4 ii. George Michael Fish 1 2 3 (born on 14 Feb 1953 in Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States)
iii. Gregory LeRoy Fish 2 11 was born on 18 Dec 1954 in Parsons, Labette, Kansas, United States and was christened on 30 Jan 1955 in Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States.
iv. Theresa Lynn Fish 2 11 was born on 29 Dec 1956 in Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States and was christened on 20 Jan 1957 in Saints Peter and Paul, Tulsa, Oklahoma, United States.
v. Mark Joseph Fish 2 11 was born on 17 Feb 1958 in Tulsa, Tulsa, Oklahoma, United States and was christened on 9 Mar 1958 in St. John Catholic Church, Bartlesville, Washington, Oklahoma.
9. Carol Jean Kirk,8 daughter of George Edward Kirk and Hattie Switzer, was born on 8 Jul 1932 in Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States, died on 7 Feb 2008 in Raleigh, Wake, North Carolina, United States10 at age 75, and was buried on 9 Feb 2008 in Raleigh Memorial Park, Raleigh, Wake, North Carolina, United States.
Birth Notes: Standard Certificate of Birth
Oklahoma State Board of Health
Bureau of Vital Statistics
Oklahoma City, Okla.
Place of Birth: Ottawa County, city of Miami
Name: Carol Jean Kirk
Date of Birth: 7-8-32
Father:
Geo[rge] Kirk, Miami, Okla., White, 26, born Okla., laborer
Hattie Suntze [sic], Miami, White, 25, born Ark,
Research Notes: Family records of Carol Jean (Kirk) Fish and George Michael Fish.
From memoirs of Carol Kirk Fish:
"To continue with my young memories, when I was six years old, we went to California, as did a lot of 'Okies' seeking better living because of the job situation. Daddy had rheumatoid arthritis, and with the depression job situation, even able-bodied men had trouble finding good work. There were five children by this time, and unbeknownst to me, the sixth one on the way. We all loaded our worldly possessions into a Model B Ford sedan and headed west on Route 66. I don't recall much in detail and I probably only heard about it and understood through a six year olds mind, but when we arrived in Bakersfield, we turned around without even stopping and headed back to Miami, Oklahoma. I recall a terrible odor and assumed people made it, but it was probably smoke from factories. On the return trip we stayed at a motel only once and it had an outside toilet."
"When I was in second grade we lived in a house Dad built near my grandparents and uncles and aunts. One summer evening we had a tornado or a cyclone. We all gathered in my grandparent's house and we children had to stay under tables, etc. The men actually held up the walls of the house. After it was over, we went to our own home, but it was sitting halfway off the foundation. I assume we slept at my grandparents that night. We had oil lamps with heavy bases and thin globes, and I recall one base was broken, but no globes.
"I remember in second grade when they passed out ages of children for the needy program, some children the ages of my brothers and sisters were not there and I went and whispered to the teacher that this was an oversight, since I knew we were among the needy. This was one of those embarrassing moments, but I didn't want any one of us left out so I did speak to her. She explained to me that our family had been chosen already by a group and that was why our ages weren't there. In looking back, I know I had a lot of courage to talk to her and that I probably embarrassed her too."
"I remember the times dad blew warm cigarette smoke in our ears when we had earache. Dad was a very warm loving man and mom was the one who pushed us to learn and better ourselves, both of them were good parents who did everything they could to make our lives good and happy."
"The 17th year of my life was one of the most eventful. I met my husband that summer before my senior year in high-school. His sister and I both worked in the same drug store, she as a cosmetologist and I as a soda jerk. It was a drug store in which my older brother and sister had worked. It was on the corner of Main and 1st Avenue in Miami, Oklahoma. I grew up there and went through all my high-school years at Miami High. Junior high was in the same complex. I was a good student and sort of planning a medical career when He came along. I remember well that I did my junior essay on medicine, but my senior I did it on roller skating which was my sporting passion. We dated all through that year. He was a freshman at the junior college there, having spent his time in the Army Air Force after high-school graduation. He really had a problem with my age I believe, because he always treated me as if I were soo much younger. But a few weeks into the summer after he had left for LA to attend UCLA he called and asked me to marry him. Of course, I said yes. I was devastated when he went away. I had told my Mom I was going to join the WACs when I was 18, just a few weeks away. She preferred that I marry rather than THAT. So she signed for me to marry. We were married on June 24th by a Justice of the Peace with only a couple of friends as witnesses. The JP chewed tobacco during the ceremony and spelled LeRoy's middle name incorrectly. But we were married. We went to Noel, Missouri for the night. It was a teen-age place then. Since then, the area has become something of a resort town. we spent our second night in a motel in Miami, then left on Monday by train for LA. I had never ridden a train; I had never seen a city as large as Kansas City, Missouri, where we changed to the Silver Streak for LA. It was a fairy-tale kind of trip. The dining car was sumptuous; we did not have berths or a compartment to save money. But we managed to enjoy the whole ride since we were so young and didn't really sleep. When we arrived in the LA station it was again a fairy tale land. The station was like a castle and when we left the station and were outside once again a magic land with palm trees and hibiscus and many kinds of flora. We walked to Olvera Street which was a Mexican paradise, and we ate hot food and walked around. It is still there. I went with my son and his wife and son when I was there last year [1999 or 2000]. We caught a city bus to Santa Monica which was where his sister lived. The Pacific Palisades were fantastic. When we arrived there, we walked to her place of work, picked up a key and went to her apartment. She and her husband had a TV, which I certainly had seen before but never owned. When they got home we toured the city a bit, but didn't go near the Pacific because LeRoy wanted to show me that on his own. They had rented us an apartment, actually the lower floor of an old house in Venice, and we had a car which they had sold LeRoy. The next day the first thing we did was go to the ocean. So vast and noisy and beautiful, but also so cold! Venice as a beach town was one curious shop after the other."
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Obituary and memorial bookmark from Carol's funeral:
Carol Kirk Fish "Mema"
RALEIGH, NC: Carol Kirk Fish, 75, entered into eternal rest on Thursday morning, February 7, 2008. Born on July 8, 1932 in Miami, Oklahoma; she was the daughter of the late George and Hattie Switzer Kirk.
Carol was a member of St. Joseph's Catholic Church in Raleigh and was a wonderful and nurturing homemaker and mother.
She is survived by her four children: George Michael Fish and wife Karen, of Slymar Park, CA [sic], Gregory LeRoy Fish and wife Sharon, of Tallahassee, FL, Theresa Fish Smith and husband Eric and Mark Joseph Fish, of Wake Forest, NC, of Raleigh; by her seven grandchildren: David Aaron Fish, Kenneth LeRoy Fish, Michelle Laraine Fish, Erica Lynn Smith, Curtis Watson Smith, Margo Leanne Layerd, and Danielle Paschal Fish; by her seven great-grandchildren and "one on the way"; and by her siblings: Buddy Kirk and Joy teal, both of Oklahoma.
Carol was preceded in death by her husband: LeRoy P. Fish; by her son: David Paschal Fish; and by her siblings: Bob Kirk, Jimmie Kirk and Pat Wright.
Family will receive friends on Saturday, February 9th from 12 Noon until time of service at St. Joseph's Catholic Church on Poole Road. A funeral Mass will be held at 1 PM, with Committal Services to follow at Raleigh Memorial Park.
• Moved: to California from Oklahoma, 1938. then turned around in Bakersfield, California, and returned to Oklahoma.
Carol married LeRoy Paschal Fish 6 7 on 24 Jun 1950 in Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States.9 LeRoy was born on 21 Aug 1928 in Peoria, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States, was christened on 15 Aug 1948 in Sambongi, Japan, died on 6 Sep 1983 in Rex Hospital, Raleigh, Wake, North Carolina, United States at age 55, and was buried in Raleigh Memorial Park, Raleigh, Wake, North Carolina, United States.
10. Kenneth Earl Tatem .
Kenneth married Phala Carmen Jordan.
The child from this marriage was:
5 i. Jennifer Laraine Tatem (born on 18 Sep 1959 in Fort Stewart, Liberty, Georgia, United States)
11. Phala Carmen Jordan .
Phala married Kenneth Earl Tatem.
Fifth Generation 16. Joseph Pascal Fish,3 13 son of Leander Jackson "Leading Turtle" Fish and Mary Kathern Large, was born on 21 Jan 1895 in Douthat, Indian Territory, (Ottawa), Oklahoma, United States and died on 23 Jul 1937 in Indian Hospital, Claremore, Rogers, Oklahoma, United States at age 42.
Birth Notes: Family Bible of his son LeRoy has b. in Douthatt, Okla (Indian Territory)
Research Notes: May have also been called "Leading Turtle," according to Fish family tradition and http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:2394013&id=I3275.
Joseph married Clara Mae Carnal 3 14 on 29 Oct 1921 in Galena, Cherokee, Kansas, United States. Clara was born on 10 Jun 1903 in Lincolnville, (Ottawa), Oklahoma, United States, died on 18 Dec 1972 in Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States at age 69, and was buried in Newman Cemetery, [NE of Miami, ] Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Mary Kathryn Fish was born on 9 May 1925 in Peoria, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States and died before 31 Mar 1997.
ii. Dorothy May Fish was born on 29 Dec 1926 in Kansas City, Missouri, United States.
8 iii. LeRoy Paschal Fish 6 7 (born on 21 Aug 1928 in Peoria, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States - died on 6 Sep 1983 in Rex Hospital, Raleigh, Wake, North Carolina, United States)
iv. Frederic Marvin "Jack" Fish was born on 8 May 1932 in Peoria, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States and died on 4 Apr 1934 at age 1.
v. Wynona Francis Fish was born on 29 Mar 1937 in Peoria, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States.
vi. Claire Eudora Fish was born on 3 Jan 1939 in Peoria, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States.
17. Clara Mae Carnal,3 14 daughter of Solomon Madison Carnal and Hattie Eudora Thomas, was born on 10 Jun 1903 in Lincolnville, (Ottawa), Oklahoma, United States, died on 18 Dec 1972 in Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States at age 69, and was buried in Newman Cemetery, [NE of Miami, ] Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States.
Birth Notes: Family Bible of her son LeRoy has b. in Douthatt, Okla (Indian Territory)
Burial Notes: According to Claire Eudora (Fish) Warner 2/13/09, "a Zane was a pallbearer" at her funeral.
Research Notes: The LeRoy Paschal Fish family Bible (has born in Douthat, OK).
Clara married Joseph Pascal Fish 3 13 on 29 Oct 1921 in Galena, Cherokee, Kansas, United States. Joseph was born on 21 Jan 1895 in Douthat, Indian Territory, (Ottawa), Oklahoma, United States and died on 23 Jul 1937 in Indian Hospital, Claremore, Rogers, Oklahoma, United States at age 42.
Clara next married Davie B. Martin.
18. George Edward Kirk,3 son of George Robert Kirk and Grace Elizabeth Parsons, was born on 2 Feb 1906 in <Centralia>, Oklahoma Territory (Oklahoma), United States and died on 25 Sep 1961 in Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States at age 55.
George married Hattie Switzer 3 15 on 31 Oct 1925 in Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States. Hattie was born on 10 Jan 1907 in Snowball, Searcy, Arkansas, United States, was christened in 1975 in Church of the Nazarene, Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States, and died on 23 Apr 1991 in Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States16 at age 84.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Joyce Clotene Kirk 11 17 was born on 25 Jun 1927 in Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States, died on 25 Jan 2010 in Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States at age 82, and was buried in G.A.R. Cemetery, Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States.
ii. George Edward "Buddy" Kirk, Jr. 18 was born on 3 Jun 1930 in Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States and died before 2010.
9 iii. Carol Jean Kirk 8 (born on 8 Jul 1932 in Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States - died on 7 Feb 2008 in Raleigh, Wake, North Carolina, United States)
iv. Jimmy Max Kirk 11 was born on 10 Jul 1934 and died before 2010.
v. Patricia Colleen Kirk 11 was born on 1 Oct 1936 and died before 2010.
vi. Robert Dan Kirk 11 was born on 26 Apr 1939 and died before 2010.
19. Hattie Switzer,3 15 daughter of Daniel Wesley Switzer and Georgia Augusta Seitz, was born on 10 Jan 1907 in Snowball, Searcy, Arkansas, United States, was christened in 1975 in Church of the Nazarene, Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States, and died on 23 Apr 1991 in Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States16 at age 84.
Hattie married George Edward Kirk 3 on 31 Oct 1925 in Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States. George was born on 2 Feb 1906 in <Centralia>, Oklahoma Territory (Oklahoma), United States and died on 25 Sep 1961 in Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States at age 55.
Sixth Generation 32. Leander Jackson "Leading Turtle" Fish, son of Chief Paschal "Pas-Cal-We" Fish and Hester Armstrong "Hetty" Zane, was born on 7 May 1852 in (Wyandotte), Kansas Territory (Kansas, United States), died in 1912 in [near Quapaw], Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States at age 60, and was buried in G.A.R. Cemetery, Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States.
Birth Notes: Birth date needs further research.
At least one source says that the 1854 Indian Census lists Leander as age 7 (i.e., born 1846 or 1847). Captions accompanying photographs of Jackson Fish by Dinwiddie in 1896, archived in the Smithsonian Institution, say that he was born in 1855 in Wayndotte, Oklahoma.
Burial Notes: Lot 20, Block 3, Grave 6, Grand Army of the Republic Cemetery, Miami, Oklahoma
Research Notes: Text accompanying a photographic reproduction from the Smithsonian Institution acquired between 1970-1985.
Joseph Pascal T.(?) Fish
Age 10 in 1905
His father was Leander Jackson Fish. We are assuming that this photo of "Jackson Fish" is that man and that Joseph P.T. Fish is Joseph Pascal Fish.
aka Jackson Fish, Leading Turtle
Look at % of each tribe in Jackson's father & mother.
Jackson Fish's father [Paschal Fish] was half Shawnee, one eighth Miami and one sixteenth Delaware.
Jackson Fish's mother [Mary Ann Steele?] was one fourth Wyandotte (Huron).
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"If duplicated, please credit Smithsonian Institution National Anthropological Archives, Bureau of American Ethnology Collection.
Public inquiry 202/357-2700
catalog of current items 800/322-0344
"Neg. No. 978 Tribe: Shawnee
"Tribe: SHAWNEE
Name: Pi'saa'ka or Leading Turtle. Mixed blood - Wyandot, Shawnee and white. Called L. J. Fish. With Joseph P. T. Fish, his son.
Home: Quapaw Agency, Okla.
By Gill, 1905
"Leading Turtle, also called Jackson Fish, with Joseph P. T. Fish, his son. Jackson Fish's father was half Shawnee, one eighth Miami and one sixteenth Delaware; his mother was one fourth Wyandotte (Huron). Home: Quapaw Agency, Oklahoma.
By Delancy Gill of the B.A.E., Washington, D.C., 1905."
"No. 764-a
Family: Algonquin
Tribe: Shawnee
Name: Pi-sã-'k or Leading Turtle. Called Jackson Fish. Mixed blood. (Father, Pasquel Fish, 1/2 Shawnee, 1/8 Miami, 1/16 Delaware; Chief of the Shawnees. Mother 1/4 Wyandotte).
Born: 1855
Home: Wyandotte, Okla.
By Dinwiddie, 1896"
"No. 764-b
Family: Algonquian
Tribe: Shawnee
Name: Pi-sã-'k or Leading Turtle. Called Jackson Fish. Mixed blood - Shawnee, Miami, Delaware, Wyandotte. Father, Pasqual Fish, chief of the Shawnees. Mother Wyandotte).
Born: 1855
Home: Wyandotte, Okla.
By Dinwiddie, 1896"
These photographs may be of a different person:
"No. 1069-a
Family: Muskhogean
Tribe: Chickasaw
Name: Jackson Fish. Mixed blood.
Home: Stonewall, Chickasaw Nation, Okla.
By Dinwiddie, 1896"
"No. 1069-B
Family: Muskhogean
Tribe: Chickasaw
Name: Jackson Fish. Mixed blood.
Home: Stonewall, Chickasaw Nation, Okla.
By Dinwiddie, 1896"
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From http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/kansas/ :
Quapaw . Between 1833 and 1867 lands in the southeastern tip of Kansas belonged to their reserve in Indian Territory (Oklahoma), but in the latter year they ceded this back to the Government. (See Arkansas .)
Shawnee . In 1825 the Shawnee residing in Missouri received a grant of land along the south side of Kansas River, west of the boundary of Missouri. In 1831 they were joined by another body of Shawnee who had formerly lived at Wapaghkonnetta and on Hog Creek, Ohio. In 1854 nearly all of this land was re-ceded to the United States Government and the tribe moved to Indian Territory, the present Oklahoma. (See Tennessee .)
Wyandot . The Wyandot purchased land in eastern Kansas on Missouri River from the Delaware in 1843 and parted with it again in 1850. A few Wyandot also held title to land along with other tribes on the border of Oklahoma and re-ceded it along with them in 1867. (See Ohio .)
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From The Emigrant Tribes: Wyandot, Delaware & Shawnee, A Chronology by Larry Hancks:
1856
August 19; the new Wyandot Tribal Council requests that the Wyandott Commissioners make modifications in the treaty lists: to strike out Eudora Fish and Leander J. Fish (children of Paschal and Hester Zane Fish), and Sarah Zane, and to add Sarah Barbee (formerly Sarah Sarrahess), Rosanna Stone and her daughter Martha Driver, and all infants born between March 1 and December 8, 1855. The case of Noah E. Zane is to be reexamined.
Leander married Mary Kathern Large.19 20 21 22 Mary was born on 6 May 1874 in St. Paul, Neosho, Kansas, United States, died on 11 Aug 1939 at age 65, and was buried on 14 Aug 1939 in G.A.R. Cemetery, Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States.
The child from this marriage was:
16 i. Joseph Pascal Fish 3 13 (Relationship to Father: Biological ) (born on 21 Jan 1895 in Douthat, Indian Territory, (Ottawa), Oklahoma, United States - died on 23 Jul 1937 in Indian Hospital, Claremore, Rogers, Oklahoma, United States)
Leander next married Julia Parks.
33. Mary Kathern Large,19 20 21 22 daughter of Richard Joseph Large and Mary Jane Davidson, was born on 6 May 1874 in St. Paul, Neosho, Kansas, United States, died on 11 Aug 1939 at age 65, and was buried on 14 Aug 1939 in G.A.R. Cemetery, Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States.
Birth Notes: May have been 1876
Death Notes: May have been 14 Aug 1939
Research Notes:
1880 U.S. Census records have:
b. abt. 1876 in Kansas, daughter of Richard Large.
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Possibly the most accurate source is Mary Jane Power McCarty (http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.martin/2944.1/mb.ashx ):
Children of Richard Joseph and Mary Jane Large:
Mary Kathern (Large) Fish, Wills b. 5-6-1874, St. Paul, Neosho County, Kansas. Buried GAR Cemetary, Miami, Oklahoma, died 8-14-1939. ( Her last husband was BOB WILLS, of BOB WILLS and the TEXAS PLAYBOYS)
DDora Rena (Large) Thomas b. 2-4-1875, Platt County, Missouri. Married Donald Thomas, they had one son, Nathan Thomas.
Della Therisia (Large) Carnal, Boggs: b. 12-23-1879, in St.Paul, Neosho County, Kansas. Died 8-12-1956, buried GAR Cemetary, Miami, Okahoma, under the name of DELLA CARNAL.
Thomas James Large: b. 8-23-1882, Bourbon County, Kansas. d. 10-5-1932.
John Henry Large: b. 7-8-1885, Bourbon County, Kansas, now Ft. Scott, Kansas. He married Allie F. Brand, 10-3-1914, Miami, Oklahoma. He died 10-16-1935, of T.B., at the time of his death he lived in Douthat, Oklahoma. He is buried in the GAR Cemetery, Miami, Oklahoma. Funeral Records are held by Jim Thomas Funeral Home, Miami, Oklahoma, services were conducted by Lane Funeral Home.
Bertie Samuel Large: b. 3-24-1891, Baxter Springs, Kansas, Cherokee County. died 8-25-1930. Twin of Gertrude Elnora Large.
Gertrude Elnora (Large) Long, b. 3-24-1891, Baxter Springs, Cherokee County, Kansas. Married Kenneth Long, had three children, Pearl Herbert, Glenn Long. Gertrude died 1931 or 1932, in Hollister California.
Herman Leroy Large: b. 5-23-1893, Indian Territory, Quapaw Reservation, Quapaw, Oklahoma.
Nathan Landon Large, b. 5-9-1888, Seneca, Newton County, Missouri. Married Alta Florence Rinehart, 3-12-1911. North Miami, Oklahoma. He died 12-8-1922, Douthat, Oklahoma of pneumonia, buried at Melrose Kansas, Fairview Cemetery.
Green-Stephens Undertaking Co. handled Funeral services.(of Picher, Oklahoma)
Mary married Leander Jackson "Leading Turtle" Fish. Leander was born on 7 May 1852 in (Wyandotte), Kansas Territory (Kansas, United States), died in 1912 in [near Quapaw], Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States at age 60, and was buried in G.A.R. Cemetery, Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States.
Mary next married Bob Wills 23 after 1912.
• Bob Wills and the Texas Playboys:
34. Solomon Madison Carnal,24 son of William Henry Carnal and Clara Jane Bottom, was born on 20 Jan 1872 in Bolivar, Polk, Missouri, United States, died on 20 Dec 1956 in Picher, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States at age 84, and was buried in G.A.R. Cemetery, Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States.
Birth Notes: May have been born in Saint Clair, Missouri (FamilySearch?). FindaGrave.com has Bolivar, Missouri.
Research Notes: From FamilySearch.org:
1880 U.S. Census Johnson, Polk, Missouri :
Birth Year
Birthplace MO
Age 7
Occupation At School
Marital Status S
Race W
Head of Household William CARNAL
Relation Son
Father's Birthplace TN
Mother's Birthplace NC
Solomon married Hattie Eudora Thomas 25 in McDonald Co., Missouri, United States. Hattie was born on 25 Feb 1884, died on 11 Feb 1927 at age 42, and was buried in G.A.R. Cemetery, Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Lily Edith Carnal was born on 1 Dec 1900 and died in Alamosa, Colorado, United States.
17 ii. Clara Mae Carnal 3 14 (born on 10 Jun 1903 in Lincolnville, (Ottawa), Oklahoma, United States - died on 18 Dec 1972 in Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States)
iii. William Earl Carnal was born on 1 Sep 1905 and died before 31 Mar 1997 in Globe, Gila, Arizona, United States.
iv. Willis Haskell Carnal 26 was born on 18 Sep 1907 in Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States, died in Aug 1941 at age 33, and was buried in G.A.R. Cemetery, Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States.
v. Grace Ellen Carnal was born on 15 Sep 1910 and died in Tow, Llano, Texas, United States.
vi. Goldie Elsie Carnal was born on 11 Nov 1914 and died in Globe, Gila, Arizona, United States.
35. Hattie Eudora Thomas,25 daughter of Albert Americus Thomas and Nancy Arminta Dobbs, was born on 25 Feb 1884, died on 11 Feb 1927 at age 42, and was buried in G.A.R. Cemetery, Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States.
Hattie married Solomon Madison Carnal 24 in McDonald Co., Missouri, United States. Solomon was born on 20 Jan 1872 in Bolivar, Polk, Missouri, United States, died on 20 Dec 1956 in Picher, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States at age 84, and was buried in G.A.R. Cemetery, Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States.
36. George Robert Kirk,14 son of Richard J. Kirk and Martha A. Crook, was born on 19 Aug 1872 in Nevada, Vernon, Missouri, United States, died on 30 Jun 1944 in Miami, (Ottawa), Oklahoma, United States at age 71, and was buried on 2 Jul 1944 in <G.A.R. Cemetery>, Miami, (Ottawa), Oklahoma, United States.
Birth Notes: FamilySearch has b. 19 Aug 1872 in Nevada, Vernon, Missouri. Another source has 1872 in Tennessee.
Death Notes: FamilySearch has d. 30 Jun 1944 in Miami, OK. Another source has d. July 1944 in Miami, OK.
George married Grace Elizabeth Parsons 14 on 17 Sep 1892 in Girard, Crawford, Kansas, United States. Grace was born on 11 Feb 1876 in Fort Scott, Bourbon, Kansas, United States, died on 26 Nov 1951 in Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States at age 75, and was buried on 27 Nov 1951 in G.A.R. Cemetery, Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Delbert Kirk was born on 26 Apr 1904.
18 ii. George Edward Kirk 3 (born on 2 Feb 1906 in <Centralia>, Oklahoma Territory (Oklahoma), United States - died on 25 Sep 1961 in Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States)
iii. Louis Matthew Kirk 27 was born on 8 Oct 1908 in Oklahoma, United States, died in 1976 in <Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States> at age 68, and was buried in Coal Creek Cemetery, Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States.
iv. Jessie Mae Kirk
v. Josie Kirk
vi. Jenny Kirk
vii. Nora Kirk
viii. Ora Kirk
ix. Robert Lee Kirk
x. Roy Kirk
xi. Kenneth Dan Franklin Kirk
xii. Ella Kirk
37. Grace Elizabeth Parsons,14 daughter of James Densmore Parsons and Nancy Jane White, was born on 11 Feb 1876 in Fort Scott, Bourbon, Kansas, United States, died on 26 Nov 1951 in Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States at age 75, and was buried on 27 Nov 1951 in G.A.R. Cemetery, Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States.
Death Notes: May have died on 24 Nov 1951.
Grace married George Robert Kirk 14 on 17 Sep 1892 in Girard, Crawford, Kansas, United States. George was born on 19 Aug 1872 in Nevada, Vernon, Missouri, United States, died on 30 Jun 1944 in Miami, (Ottawa), Oklahoma, United States at age 71, and was buried on 2 Jul 1944 in <G.A.R. Cemetery>, Miami, (Ottawa), Oklahoma, United States.
38. Daniel Wesley Switzer,28 29 30 son of William Henry Switzer and Ellender Jane Manes, was born on 11 Jun 1872 in Illinois, United States and died on 26 May 1951 in Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States at age 78.
Birth Notes: Switzer family records (via Barbara Holman 7 Sep 2006) state that he was born in Illinois.
Research Notes: From Letter from Barbara L. Holman, September 7, 2006 to Switzer descendents with family tree "The Switzer Family Heritage":
"**DANIEL WESLEY SWITZER, born June 11, 1872 in Illinois, and married June 17, 1894, in Searcy County Arkansas to Georgia Augusta Seitz. Daniel died May 26, 1951 in Miami, Oklahoma, Ottawa County"
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From http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=cathyconn&id=I239
1900 U.S. Census Searcy Co. AR:
Switzer, Dan, H, M, JA 72, 27, M 06, AR AR AR 001
Gussie, W, F, AP 74, 26, M, 06, 03, 02 AR GA
Fonzo, S, M, FE 95, 05, S, AR AR AR
Mosco, S, M, AP 97, 03, S, AR AR AR
Florence, D, F, FE 00, 03/12, S, AR AR AR
Henry, FA, M, DE 43, 56, WW, AR MO MO MO
1910 U.S. Census Searcy Co. AR:
Switzer, Dan W., Husband, Male, age 36, Married 1 for 16 years AR, MO, AR
(Seitz) Augusta, Wife, Female, age 33, Married 1 for 16 years, 6 children born, 4 living, AR, GA, GA
Fonzo, Son, Male, age 14, Single, AR, AR, AR
Mattie, Daughter, Female, age 7, Single, AR, AR, AR
Grover, Son Male, age 5, Single, AR, AR, AR
Hattie, Daughter, Female, Age 3, Single, AR, AR, AR
1920 U.S. Census Boone Co., AR:
Switzer, Daniel, head, male, age 46, married, can read & write, AR, MO, MO
Gussie, wife, age 37, read & write, AR, GA, GA
Mattie, daughter, age 16 attending school, read & write, AR, AR, AR
Grayson, son, 14, attending school, read & write, AR, AR, AR
Hattie, daughter, 12, attending school, read & write, AR, AR, AR
Hazel, daughter, 9, attending school, read & write, AR, AR, AR
Fay, son, 6, AR, AR, AR
Bruce, son, 1 year and 10 months, AR, AR, AR
1930 U.S. Census Miami, Ottawa Co., OK:
Switzer, Daniel, head, No, M, W, 56, Widowed, AR, TN, AR, carpenter
Hazel, daughter, 19
Fay, son, 16
Robert B., son, 12
• Charged: with disturbing the peace, 1899, Marshall, Searcy, Arkansas, United States. Jury trial, found not guilty
Daniel married Georgia Augusta Seitz 14 28 31 32 33 on 17 Jun 1894 in Snowball, Searcy, Arkansas, United States. Georgia was born on 18 Mar 1876 in Snowball, Searcy, Arkansas, United States, died on 5 Jul 1928 in <Oklahoma>, United States at age 52, and was buried in Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States.
Marriage Notes: Source: FamilySearch.org and http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=cathyconn&id=I239, which cites:
Searcy Co., AR Marriage Book: SWITZER, DW (21) of Blanco to
Georgia A. SEITZ (18) of Blanco on 17 June 1894 by WB Drewry, JP
Book D, page 404
Children from this marriage were:
i. Fonzo Switzer was born on 6 Feb 1895 in Arkansas, United States.
ii. Mosco Switzer was born in Apr 1897 in Arkansas, United States.
iii. Florence Switzer was born in Feb 1900 in <Arkansas>, United States.
iv. Martha Jane Switzer 14 was born on 2 Mar 1903 in <Saint Joe, Searcy, Arkansas>, United States and died on 5 Jul 1934 at age 31.
v. Grayson Dan Switzer was born on 9 Feb 1905 and died on 24 Nov 1979 at age 74.
19 vi. Hattie Switzer 3 15 (born on 10 Jan 1907 in Snowball, Searcy, Arkansas, United States - died on 23 Apr 1991 in Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States)
vii. Hazel Marie Switzer was born on 10 Aug 1910 in Arkansas, United States.
viii. Fay G. Switzer was born on 24 Sep 1913 in Arkansas, United States.
ix. Robert Bruce Switzer was born on 14 Feb 1918 in Arkansas, United States.
39. Georgia Augusta Seitz,14 28 31 33 34 daughter of Henry Thomas Seitz and Martha Ann Plemmons, was born on 18 Mar 1876 in Snowball, Searcy, Arkansas, United States, died on 5 Jul 1928 in <Oklahoma>, United States at age 52, and was buried in Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States.
Birth Notes: Source:
Family records of LeRoy Paschal Fish and Carol Jean Kirk
Birthdate given in Kirk family records as 18 Mar 1876 without a place.
The present researcher guessed that she was born in Saint Joe, Arkansas. That may not be so. It may have been Snowball or Blanco.
Another (1991) source at FamilySearch.org has b. in Snowball, Searcy, Arkansas.
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=cathyconn&id=I439 has b. Apr 1874 in Blanco, Searcy Co., Arkansas.
Yet another Rootsweb source has b. 18 Mar 1875 in Blanco, Arkansas. That source misspells Switzer, so the 1875 may not be reliable either.
Research Notes:
Georgia married Daniel Wesley Switzer 28 29 30 on 17 Jun 1894 in Snowball, Searcy, Arkansas, United States. Daniel was born on 11 Jun 1872 in Illinois, United States and died on 26 May 1951 in Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States at age 78.
Seventh Generation 
64. Chief Paschal "Pas-Cal-We" Fish,35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 son of William Jackson "Captain" Fish and Polly Rogers, was born in 1805 in Shawnee Tribe, (Kansas Territory), (United States) and died in 1894 in Baxter Springs, Cherokee, Kansas, United States at age 89.
Birth Notes: www.whatsineudora.com has birth year as 1805.
http://www.geocities.com/sam_cook_53/grpf2492.html has b. 1809 in Shawnee Tribe, Kansas Territory, Kansas.
Historic Names of the Shawnee in the 1700s - http://www.shawnee-traditions.com/Names-7.html
has b. abt 1792 in Ohio.
General Notes: From http://www.whatsineudora.com
http://gen3.connectingneighbors.com/static/19448.pdf
"A statue of Chief Paschal Fish and his daughter, Eudora, is being created by world renowned Lawrence [Kansas] sculptor, Jim Brothers. When completed, it will be a 7 ½ foot tall bronze statue and will be placed in the CPA Park in downtown Eudora. The casting will be completed by the Ad Astra Foundry, which is located about 10 miles NW of Eudora.
"The statue has been created to commemorate the 150th anniversary of the City of Eudora (1857-2007) and will be dedicated October 6th, 2007 during the annual EudoraFest. It depicts Shawnee Indian Chief Paschal Fish and his daughter, Eudora, in the year of 1857 with Chief Fish holding a ferry oar and with Eudora clutching his waist.
"The land Eudora was built on was purchased from Chief Fish by the German Settlement Society from Chicago. The German settlers honored the request of Chief Fish and named their new town after his daughter, Eudora.
"When the U.S. Government allotted land to the Indians, Chief Fish received 1,000 acres in this part of Douglas County. In 1857 he sold 800 acres to the German Settlement Society from Chicago. Chief Fish owned and operated the Fish Ferry, which crossed the Kaw River just north of downtown Eudora. He also owned the Fish House, which was located on the south edge of Eudora along the Westport Trail. The Westport Trail
connected Kansas City to Lawrence and tied into the Oregon and Santa Fe Trails. He often took in travelers for the night and provided them with food and shelter. On May 1, 1855, the Kansas Territorial Governor, Andrew H. Reeder, stayed at the Fish House. The Governor.s horse was hidden, so it would not be seen by pro-slavery supporters. Chief Fish was a Methodist minister and was instrumental in establishing and teaching at the Wakarusa Indian Mission which was built in Eudora 1848-1850.
"Paschal Fish (1805-1894). In approximately 1870, Chief Fish moved from Eudora to Indian Territory near Miami, Oklahoma. In 1894 at the age of 89, Chief Fish was found frozen to death along Tar Creek near his home at Baxter Springs, Kansas.
"Eudora Fish (ca. 1848-1877). In 1868 Eudora Fish married Dallas Emmons. They lived in LaCygne, Kansas and had 4 children. Eudora passed away unexpectedly at the age of 29. Her body was transported from LaCygne to Wyandotte, Kansas. She is buried in the Huron Indian Cemetery in downtown Wyandotte.
"Project Funding
"The primary resources for this project have been Eudora Lions Club members, personnel from various departments within the City of Eudora, and also many community partners that have hosted/assisted with fund-raising activities. There has been wide support for this project ranging from the purchase of engraved bricks that will be placed around the base of the statue to cash donors whose names will be placed on a bronze plaque that will be mounted to the base of the statue. The Shawnee Tribe that is located in Miami, Oklahoma is also very supportive of the project.
"Fund-raising activities have been sponsored/supported by the Eudora Historical Society, United Methodist Church, Knights of Columbus, Chamber of Commerce, Boy Scouts, Eudora school personnel and their facilities, Annie.s Country Jubilee from Tonganoxie, plus many Eudora businesses and individual volunteers."
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From Wikipedia - Eudora, Kansas
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eudora%2C_Kansas
"In 1856, three members of a German Immigrant Settlement Company (called Deutsche-Neusiedlungsverein) from Chicago, sent out a location committee to choose a town site in the new Indian Territory, which had been opened up to settlement by the Kansas-Nebraska Bill, passed in May 1854 . Both pro-slavery and anti-slavery groups flocked to this territory.
"The three Germans sent to the present site were H. Heimann, F. Barteldes and C. Scheifer. Favoring the Eudora area, they drew up contracts with Chief Paschal Fish for 774 1/2 acres, from the Kansas River to the south for about a mile (over 200 blocks total), with two public squares and a park. In February 1857, Chief Fish entered into contracts with the Trustees of the Chicago Verein for purchase of the land "to secure a more perfect title" at a price of $10,000. Fish bought back on the same day the odd numbered lots of at least three blocks between the Kaw and Wakarusa rivers.
"A map of Douglas County drawn up in early 1857, before Eudora was a town, shows only four townships in the county with Eudora included in the Wakarusa township.
"A group of 16 men, 4 women, and some children had came in the spring of 1857 to begin settling at the site. Peter Hartig, age 34, was the leader of this Chicago group, and he was accompanied by his wife. The Society paid expenses for the settlers. Eight more men, who paid their own way, came later. The formal title, signed by an Indian Agent named Newsom, was drawn up on February 4 , 1860.
"The town's name was derived from the name of Chief Paschal Fish's 13-year old daughter; it is a name of Greek derivation meaning "giving" or "generous." Chief Fish said that if they did this there would never be a tornado to touch down in Eudora. There hasn't been a tornado there to this day."
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From http://history.lawrence.com/project/community/eudora/growth.htm :
Eudora was incorporated as a city in the fall of 1858 under Territorial laws and the first election was held in 1859 under Fred Faerber as mayor as of March 10. Councilmen elected were Peter Hartig, August Ziesenis, M. Marthey, P. Hoffenau and A. Summerfield. Justice of Peace was Fred Swartz; City Treasurer was Charles Achning; City Clerk was C. F. Swartz; and Marshall was Fred Soelte.
The records of the city business transactions were written in German until 1860. The original copies are at Kansas University Spencer Research Library. Two Kansas University German students translated them for the Eudora Centennial 1957.They are microfilmed. The original copies are at Kansas University library.
In March, 1859 the Eudora City Council agreed to commission the Secretary of the Chicago company to furnish a city seal for the town with the design on it of white man shaking hands with an Indian and with some suitable adornment and with a circular inscription: City of Eudora, Douglas County, Kansas Territory.
From city council minutes:
March 17, 1860-"The Mayor presented for consideration the problem of investigating whether the city is justified in collecting real estate taxes, and in selling the lots which have accrued to the city through nonpayment of the assessed taxes, Tabled."
May 7, 1860-"Agreed to table the tax question until Paschal Fish or Clark returned from Washington (Note! Paschal Fish was still an important person in the city to go to Washington to investigate a city matter).
Research Notes: From text accompanying a photograph from the Smithsonian Institution archives:
"[Leander] Jackson Fish's father [Paschal Fish] was half Shawnee, one eighth Miami and one sixteenth Delaware; his mother was one fourth Wyandot (Huron). "
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Information from this source does not match other sources. May not be accurate:
From Historic Shawnee Names of the 1700s - http://www.shawnee-traditions.com/Names-7.html
"Fish, Paschal aka Paschal Jackson - 1/2 Shawnee Metis born about 1792 OH-died after 1854 KS - son of Fish aka William Jackson-adopted white & Shawnee Woman, moved to KS by 1832, Treaty 1854, husband 1st of Mary Ann Steele/95-Metis, 2nd of Jane Hohthawakawe/95, 3rd of Hester Armstrong Zane-Wyandot Metis, father with Mary Ann of Leander aka Leading Turtle/1814"
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From
http://skyways.lib.ks.us/genweb/archives/wyandott/history/1911/volume1/29.html (part of KSGenWeb Project)
and http://www.whatsineudora.com
Transcribed from History of Wyandotte County Kansas and its people ed. and comp. by Perl W. Morgan. Chicago, The Lewis publishing company, 1911. 2 v. front., illus., plates, ports., fold. map. 28 cm. [Vol. 2 contains biographical data. Paged continuously.]
Chapter III.
"Among others of the Shawnees who won distinction for meritorious work in aid of civilizing and educating the tribe was Paschal Fish. He was a local preacher and his brother Charles was an interpreter. They would listen to sermons preached by the white men in the missions and translate them for those of the Indians who could not understand English."
Chapter V.
"The Shawnee Indian mission was the most ambitious attempt of any Protestant church in the early times to care for the Indians of Kansas. In 1828 what was called the Fish band of Shawnee Indians was moved by the government from Ohio to Wyandotte county, Kansas. They were under the leadership of the Prophet [Ten-squat-a-way (The Open Door)], the brother of the great Tecumseh, who made his home near the spot where the town of Turner [Kansas] now stands. The following year [1829] the Reverend Thomas Johnson, a member of the Missouri conference of the Methodist church, followed the Indians to Turner, built a log house on the hill south of the Kansas river and began working among the red men as a missionary. In 1832 the rest of the Shawnee Indians from Ohio rejoined their tribe in Kansas. The government allotted them a large reservation of the best land in eastern Kansas..."
"The mission among the Delaware Indians [in Wyandotte County, Kansas] was opened in 1832 by the Reverend William Johnson and the Reverend Thomas Markham, appointed by the Missouri Conference of the Methodist Episcopal church to take charge Though the Delawares were advancing in agriculture and their fine prairie lands interspersed with timber were improved, they had but little culture. Many of the elder members of the tribe retained their ancient prejudices against Christianity and, in consequence, the membership of the Mission church was never large...
"The Mission was erected in 1832 near a spring in a beautiful grove.. on the high divide on the site of the present town of White Church, facing east... It was destroyed by a tornado on
May 11, 1886.... After the inauguration of the mission and school by the Reverend William Johnson and the Reverend Thomas B. Markham, E. T. Peery was in charge from 1833 to 1836 inclusive ... Others who were connected with it were ... the Reverend Nathan Scarrett for whom the Scarrett Bible Training School is named, and the Reverend Paschal Fish.
"In the early days a log parsonage was erected and a camp ground was laid out in which great camp meetings for the Indians were held. These camp meetings... were attended by Indians of various tribes, many coming in their blankets. Each tribe had its interpreters to follow the words of the preacher, or exhorter, and translate them into English. The two Ketchums, James and Charles, full-blood Delawares, were interpreters...
"Prominent among the Delawares was Charles Ketchum, for many years a preacher in the Methodist church... In the separation troubles, in 1845, the Delawares went with their church to the southern branch. But Charles Ketchum adhered to the northern branch, built a church himself and kept the little remnant of the flock together...
"The interpreters for the northern branch were Charles Ketchum, Paschal Fish and Isaac Johnnycake."
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From http://www.geocities.com/sam_cook_53/grpf2458.html (more is available)
Pascal "PAS-CAL-WE" FISH:
Census: 1856, #343 age 50
Notes:
100529
Title: Document granting land to Pascal Fish on behalf of other Fish family members
Description: This document, with President Buchanan's signature signed by a secretary, granted land to Pascal Fish and his family who were members of the "united tribe of Shawnee Indians." The land was granted under provisions of a treaty between the Shawnee Indians and the U. S. government signed May 10, 1854. Specific acreage in Johnson County was designated.
Dates: September 27, 1859
Number of Images: 1
Call Number: James Stanley Emery Collection, #339, Box 3, Folder Commissions 1854-1899
Location of Original: KSHS
See KHC, vol. 9, pp. 166,167. Historian Rodney Staab of Shawnee Mission, Kansas, has furnished me with an excellent account of Chief Fish written by Fern Long. Her information conflicts somewhat with other sources, but it should not be missed by anyone doing research on the Jackson/Fish family. According to her 1978 article on Chief Fish, she agrees that [William Jackson Fish] was captured as a youth and raised by the Shawnees in the band of Lewis Rogers whose daughter he married. Paschal Fish was "a large-framed man" who "also acquired the Indian ways seeming to be totally Indian." but at the same time, she says "these Shawnees had associated with white people for generations and desired a settled life with homes, schools, churches, ___and agriculture."
c) Hester Zane, lived in MO, d. 4/17/1852, bur. , m. 10/14/1846, Paschal Fish
i) Eudora Fish (1849-1877)
ii) Andrew Fish, b. 1851
iii) Leander J. Fish [b. 1852]
From Eudora Community Heritage of Our USA Bicentennial, 1776-1976
History Committee, Eudora Bicentennial Committee, 1977 :
Pages 6-11
INDIAN LANDS
The Kanza Indians, who were the native inhabitants of northeast Kansas, were of Siouan linguistic stock, having permanent villages, cornfields and gardens along the fertile river valleys of the State of Kansas. They also hunted for meat.
The United States government adopted a plan by the mid 1820's to remove Indians from east of the Mississippi River to the "vacant" lands in the west. (The lands were not vacant but were less populated and the white man kept wanting more land, as more people came to America for freedom from persecution in Europe.) The government called it "for humanitarian and political reasons"!
A treaty with the Kanza and Osage Indians (in the southeast part of the state) in 1825 restricted their territory. This led to unclaimed land west of the Missouri River. President Jackson's Indian Policy proposed voluntary emigration of the East Indians to the land west of the Mississippi river, acted on by Congress May 28, 1830 with Indians north of Ohio to relocate in Territorial Kansas reservations which were offered to 27 Tribes, including the Shawnee.
THE SHAWNEE INDIAN TRIBE
The Shawnee Indian Tribes were settled in the eastern part of North America forested areas of Ohio, Tennessee, Pennsylvania and West Virginia, since the mid-1700's. They spoke the Algonquian language and were tribally related to the Sauk and the Fox Tribes.
Most Shawnees had migrated west to Ohio by 1786 when the Government moved the Indians west of the Mississippi river, by the Indian Removal Act of 1830, when they were forced to the smaller reservation in Kansas.
Chief Cornstalk and Chief Tecumseh struggled to hold their land (Battle of Tippecanoe) but were defeated. The Shawnee Prophet, brother of Tecumseh, peacefully accepted the proposition.
The United Tribe of Shawnees started coming to Kansas in 1825 to the Shawnee Township, Wyandotte County. By 1828 most were moved, but much of the Tribe of the Fish came in 1831. The Fish Tribe had children educated in a Friends Mission school in Ohio. The Shawnee Indian Chief, Paschal Fish, Sr., was white and raised with Indians.
The Shawnee Reservation was from the Missouri River on the east, to the Republican River on the west, south of the Kansas River, about 150 miles long and 20 to 30 miles wide. It was almost the same size as the Delaware reservation on the north side of the Kaw River. The Reservation included a quarter of Shawnee County and Geary Counties, one third of Morris County, half of Waubaunsee, one-fifth of northern Franklin and Miami counties and all of Douglas and Johnson counties.
The Fish Tribe settled near Kansas City before moving to Eudora. At Shawnee Mission, called Johnson's Mission at first, the Fish family helped at the school operated by the Methodist Church, 1830-1862, arriving with 40 Indians and five whites. Paschal Fish, Sr., [William Jackson Fish]died there in 1834 [October 1833].
THE FISH TRIBE
The namesake of Paschal Fish, Sr. [William Jackson Fish], assumed leadership of the Fish Tribe at age 33 [abt 1793]. Paschal, Jr., was also known by his white name of Andrew Jackson. Paschal is not an Indian name but means Easter or Passion, and could have been given him at the Friends Mission school he attended in Ohio. Paschal was also spelled Passel, Pascal, Paschal, Pascal and Pestle. He was listed on the 1854 Indian census rolls for the Shawnee Tribe as 50 years of age. He had a wife, Martha, age 40, son Obadiah age 12 years, Eudora (Udder) age 9, and Leander Jackson age 7. In 1860 Mary T. was listed as a member of the family of the original deed in Eudora, so may have been born after the census. Paschal also had a foster son, an orphan, who came here and received the same portion of land as his own children, according to an early deed and abstract. His first one or two wives apparently died and he married Mary Ann Steele (nee McClure). A daughter, Jane Q. was born, but died in 1873.
Pastel's brother Charles [b. abt 1815] also lived here and was 41 years old on the [1854] census roll. He must have been married and had a child, as early city records list him paying a fine for a child in 1862 and 1864. A Jesse Fish paid $3.00 in 1863 and no mention of any relationship to Paschal or Charles. John also lived here and was an influential member of the Tribe. There was also a Julia Fish, who was the wife of Leander Jackson.
In 1837-38 Paschal was listed as a blacksmith and gunsmith assistant at Fort Leavenworth. In 1847-52 he served preaching assignments in Eudora, Shawnee Mission and the Chicago Mission (near Weston, Mo.).
Northern Methodist Church Shawnee Indian members of Shawnee Mission who came to Eudora area were the Fish family, James Captain, Wm. Rogers, Crane, Parks, (Joe and Wm.) and the Bluejackets (Chas. Geo. and Henry.)
Paschal and other prominent Indians kept open house for early day travelers to and through Eudora on the Westport-Fremont Trail from the northeast and from the Oregon trail on the southeast, going west to Lawrence, Oregon and California.
Paschal Fish has been described as kind, friendly, educated, speaking English well, but sometimes signed his name with an X. On the Eudora deed when he sold to the German Settlement Society he wrote legibly. He probably moved to this area in the 1840's, although the land here was not given to Tribe members until the Treaty of May 10, 1854, when the Government provided 200 acres to each member of the chief's family, to be selected from the Shawnee reservation. Paschal chose 1172 1/2 acres, where the Wakarusa river joins the Kaw. They were given the right to sell their land, and he sold 774 1/2 acres in 1857 to Chicago Settlement Company.
Paschal and brother Charles operated a ferry boat across the Kansas River near the mouth of the Wakarusa. The legislature licensed him to operate the ferry a mile up and a mile down stream. DeSoto had the next ferry to the east. In 1846 a portion of Doniphan's expedition to Mexico crossed the river at Eudora on a ferry. His home was said to be where the Bob Lothholz's live, 1 mile east. These ferry boats were large flat scows (or piroughs) manned by Indians dressed in colorful shirts, shawls and headbands.
In 1854 Paschal Fish built a thatched roof hotel (store, tavern, Inn), called the Fish House, located on the 1857 Territorial Map. It was about a mile south of the river in Block no. 154, Lot no. 9 at about 17th and Main St. on the property recently sold by Mrs. Francis Skinner, half to the Highway Department for the new no. 10 highway and half to a builder. The Fish House provided meager accommodations to travelers on the early trails. An early account of an overnight stay says the sleeping room was 16' x 16' with 32 people sleeping in a mass on the floor. There was one bed with prairie hay mattress, six chairs and a fireplace, and it was overcrowded! Bedding was buffalo hides or bedding from wagons. The Territorial Governor of Kansas, Andrew Redder had to go south to Blanton's Bridge to cross, due to high water on Wakarusa and a Company of pro-slavery men at Franklin. He reached the Fish House at daylight, hiding his horse and carriage and staying hid. He left the next day. The hotel was a polling place in 1855. Reports reveal a blacksmith shop and grocery or general store in connection with the hotel. The building was later enlarged.
City records state that Paschal Fish went to Washington D.C. for the city, after Eudora was settled [in 1857]. Also there was Chief Johnny Cake living in Eudora area who went to see "the Great White Father", according to an article written by Mary E. Mosher, who lived here in 1865-66. There was also an interpreter, Charlie King, who could have been Charlie Fish. She wrote that a number of the Indians lived in houses of the best class, spoke good English, being educated in Mission schools.
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Under Other Flags / Indian Lands / Oregon Trail / Mission / Becomes a City / Sad Years / Railroads / Business / Education
Published by West Junior High, NEH project, with permission of the Eudora Community Heritage, History Committee, Eudora Bicentennial Commission, 1977.
page 449
194. Long, Fern. "Revised Indian History re: Pascal Fish, Sr." Eudora Enterprise [Eudora, KS] June 22, 1978, 4A. This the first of three articles, traces the descendants of the Shawnee chief Pascal Fish, Sr., [William Jackson Fish] who brought the Lewis Rogers band of Shawnees from Missouri to the present day Kansas City area in 1830. According to information given here, this band was a portion of the Shawnees who had migrated to Missouri in 1784, settling on a branch of the Meramac River (while a majority settles around Cape Girardeau about 1803). A descendant, Charles Fish, was an interpreter at Dr. Abraham Still's Friends' Wakarusa Mission.
This woman may not have been related:
Jane "HOH-THA-WAH-KA-SE" UNKNOWN:
Census: 1856, #523 age 24
Footnotes
International Genealogical Index (R) [164 ] (February 7, 2005).
Fish-1805.ged [148 ].
Date of Import: 7 Feb 2005.
Ibid.
Date of Import: 7 Feb 2005.
Ibid.
Date of Import: 7 Feb 2005.
International Genealogical Index (R) [164 ] (February 7, 2005).
Fish-1805.ged [148 ].
Date of Import: 7 Feb 2005.
Ibid.
Date of Import: 7 Feb 2005.
Ibid.
Date of Import: 7 Feb 2005.
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From Exiles and Pioneers: Eastern Indians in the Trans-Mississippi West by John P. Bowes (New York, 2007)
pp. 1-3:
"For example, a letter written in April 1850 by six Shawnee men. Charles Fish, Paschal Fish, James Captain, John Fish, Crane, and William Rogers wrote to Commissioner of Indian Affairs Orlando Brown from their homes south of the Kansas River just west of the Missouri border. Their seven-page missive detailed a number of complaints against the Methodists living and working on their reserve. Among other misdeeds, the missionaries had bribed and corrupted members of the Shawnee Council and neglected the children who attended their manual labor school. 'The truth cannot be concealed,' the six Shawnees proclaimed, 'they [the Methodists] have departed from their legitimate office and have become "money changers."' But this accusation did not complete the list of grievances. The missionaries had also sided with proslavery forces in the recent split of the Methodist Episcopal Church. They then proceeded to harass those Shawnees who supported the antislavery Methodists and would not allow a northern preacher on the reserve. Charles Fish and his partners had a simple question for Commissioner Brown: 'Shall we who live on free soil enjoy less liberty than the citizens of a slave state?'
"...Multilayered relationships in eastern Kansas influenced those six Shawnee men. An internal power struggle with a faction of Ohio Shawnees partially explains the written attack against the Methodists. But the choice of words is also telling. Charles Fish and his compatriots charged the missionaries with abandoning their religious principles and becoming 'money changers.' The very use of the phrase, perhaps a reference to the men Jesus threw out of the temple in a familiar Biblical event, highlights the background of at least two of the Shawnees. Both Charles and his brother Paschal attended mission schools in their youth, and while Charles translated for missionaries in the 1840s, Paschal often preached at the services. Finally, in their references to slavery these men displayed a clear understanding of past legislation and contemporary politics. They knew the Missouri Compromise prohibited slavery in their region and wanted it known that both missionaries and Shawnee leaders were in direct violation of that legislation."
p. 109:
"The number of ...government-appointed positions increased dramatically with the establishment of reserves and Indian agencies in the western territories. In 1838 alone, the Fort Leavenworth Agency employed eight different mixed-descent men... Among [the seven who worked as assistant blacksmiths] were Paschal Fish, Charles Fish and Nelson Rogers, all products of relations between Anglo-American men taken captive as children and Shawnee women they later married. At Indian agencies throughout the trans-Mississippi West, men like Tiblow, the Fish brothers, and Rogers performed services as interpreters and as assistant blacksmiths for salaries that by the early 1850s reached up to $400 per year."
pp. 112-113:
"A prevalent business in the 1840s entailed charging American travelers for passage across the creeks and rivers that impeded their journey along the various trails that originated in the Missouri border towns... Wyandots, Shawnees, Potawatomis, and Delawares all ran small ferries at the various rivers in eastern Kansas that coursed across both their reserves and the popular emigration trails... Only a few miles east of the Potawatomi reserve, Paschal and Charles Fish, two Anglo-Shawnee brothers, also operated a ferry on the Kansas River. They benefitted not only from emigrant travel but also from the U.S. soldiers that required the Indian flatboats on their way to Mexico in 1846.
"Paschal Fish did more than just operate a ferry, however. He took advantage of other traveler needs and by the 1850s transformed his home into an inn. Located approximately ten miles east of present-day Lawrence, his two-story house greeted weary travelers in need of food and a place to rest their heads. Although the creaking cottonwood boards did not always inspire confidence in the stability of the second floor, and competition for the single washbasin and square mirror often delayed morning preparations, the inn nevertheless received satisfactory evaluations. A hot breakfast, complete with fresh biscuits and coffee, was served, and it sent travelers on their way. Fish also owned a small store and cultivated approximately one hundred acres of corn and thirty acres of oats. Wagon train drivers told visitors stories of this Shawnee man who 'don't drink a drop of whiskey' and who sat on his porch with his hat on, 'in a ruminating mood.' Although these drivers may have tried to make their stories more colorful with such descriptions, it remained clear that informed travelers in the 1850s knew of Paschal Fish and the services he provided."
p.167:
"Federal misconceptions about Shawnee society and politics compounded [disagreements about title and rights of occupancy of the Western Reserve.] Most treaties failed to recognize the numerous bands that comprised the larger Shawnee community. The Missouri Shawnees, under which designation the Fish, Rogerstown, Apple Creek, and Cape Girardeau bands fell, were not a homogeneous entity with shared political interests. Neither were the Ohio Shawnees, whose membership included the Wapakoneta, Hog Creek, Huron River, and Lewistown bands. Many of these competing interests played out during the relocation to the Kansas River reserve. The Cape Girardeau band believed that government commissioners had misled them about the 1825 treaty and argued that they had never agreed to allow any Ohio Shawnees to settle on the western lands. As a result, a portion of the Shawnees under the leadership of Black Bob did not move to eastern Kansas and instead settled along the White River in Arkansas. Meanwhile, the Rogerstown and Fish bands traveled directly to eastern Kansas, where successive parties of Oh9io Shawnees joined them over the next several years. A more complete reunion in 1833 occurred only through intimidation. Black Bob's band still had no desire to move to the Kansas River."
pp. 169-171:
"For the better part of the first three decades they resided on the reserve, the Shawnees also used the Christian missions as a channel for their political struggles. From 1830 to the late 1850s, the Shawnees attempted to control the access and impact of missionaries. Negotiations with the Baptists, Methodist, and Quakers had begun even before the arrival of the Wapakoneta and Hog Creek Shawnees. Unfortunately, at least in the missionaries' eyes, the Shawnees in the West refused to limit themselves to the services of only one denomination. Several headmen welcomed both day and boarding schools, all the while stressing their interest in the services the missionaries provided as opposed to the theology the ministers preached. Although the struggles regarding education and religion did not always involve the larger internal conflicts, such battles more often than not reflected the political divisions on the reserve.
"In the summer of 1830, the Methodists and the Baptists answered the call for a missionary among the Shawnees. A Missouri Shawnee chief named Fish spoke to the local Indian Agent, George Vashon, and requested a missionary establishment to educate the children of his band. Fish, also known as William Jackson, was a white man raised among the Shawnees since childhood. He and his band relocated to eastern Kansas from Missouri in 1828, and now wanted a school. Vashon quickly responded to this request and passed along the message to Reverend Jesse Green, the Presiding Elder for the Missouri District of the Methodist Episcopal Church (MEC). As the letter made its way to Green, however, another missionary intruded. Isaac McCoy entered the Shawnee reserve in August 1830 while on a survey expedition for the Delawares. Themissionary and his two sons encouraged the Shawnees to accept a Baptist mission. Tenskwatawa ["the Shawnee Prophet"], Captain Peter Cornstalk, Captain William Perry, and the other assembled Shawnees appeared pleased with his offer. After the formal council, McCoy also spoke with Fish, at which time the Shawnee headman reiterated his desire for a mission school. But this meeting did not alter his first agreement. Fish's band would have a Methodist school and the Ohio Shawnees would have a Baptist school. In September 1830 the Methodists organized their mission and appointed Thomas Johnson as its supervisor. Johnston Lykins, McCoy's son-in-law, crossed the Mississippi in July 1831 and commenced construction on the Baptist mission.
"...arguments between the Baptists and Methodists were pointless because most Shawnees did not dwell on theological differences. Shawnee parents saw an opportunity for their children to learn to read, write, and gain skills that would give them an advantage in future interactions with American citizens and society. As a result, they protested when any missionary appeared to stray. In May 1833, John Perry, William Perry, and Peter Cornstalk complained to William Clark about the Methodists. Rather than dwelling on issues of religion, these Shawnee leaders criticized Thomas Johnson for meddling in their affairs... They even made it clear that although they had given leave to Johnson to set up a school for fish's band, they did not want him 'to meddle himself with our people.' Yet, the Shawnees' displeasure extended to the Baptists as well. At two different points in 1834 the tribal council requested that the government remove all missionaries from their lands. Isaac McCoy questioned this decision, and he implied that white men in the vicinity unduly influenced the Shawnees against the missionaries. Putting aside his differences with his religious adversaries, McCoy insisted that the majority of the western Shawnees accepted and desired the Baptists and the Methodists.
"By blaming Shawnee complaints on outside meddlers, McCoy ignored both the content of the Indians' initial requests and the missionaries' initial failure to follow through on their promises. When Fish spoke to Agent Vashon in the summer of 1830, he asked for a mission to educate the children. The Shawnee chief's son, Paschal, already had some schooling, and the headman wanted the other children in his band to learn as well. Although other Shawnee leaders did not take the same initiative as Fish, they acceded to the missionary presence, and some welcomed the educational opportunity for their children."
p. 173:
"Twenty-seven Shawnees attended regularly during the [Methodists' Manual Labor School's] first year in 1839. Over the next decade, the number rose only slightly, reaching thirty-six in 1851. Four years later, according to Johnson's records, the attendance of Shawnee children reached eighty-seven. These affiliations extended beyond the children and into the participation and conversion of adults. Although [William Jackson] Fish died in October 1834, his sons Paschal and Charles followed the wishes of their father. Paschal served as a class leader at the mission meetings by 1838, exhorted in public the following year, and became a licensed preacher in 1843. Lewis and William Rogers joined Paschal at the meetings in the late 1830s and early 1840s, which meant that the Rogerstown band also had a presence. The Rogerses were sons of Lewis Rogers, a white captive, and the daughter of the Shawnee chief Blackfish. The two boys and their brothers had gone to a Methodist school in Kentucky, which no doubt influenced their affiliation. Meanwhile, Waywaleapy continued to participate in the Methodist meetings and even spoke during religious services. Although Methodist Shawnees were still a significant minority, their participation illustrated the ability of Johnson and his colleagues to transcend tribal politics."
pp. 174-175:
The Methodist Episcopal Church "split in 1845 into a northern and a southern division, neither side willing to compromise [on the issue of slavery]. Without hesitation, Thomas Johnson affiliated himself and the school with the southern [proslavery] faction.
"The rift in the church revived the divisions within the Shawnee Methodists. By the following year [1846] Shawnees with antislavery leanings began to keep their children out of the Manual Labor School. Then in 1849, approximately eight-five Shawnees petition the MEC North to send them a preacher so that they could continue to hold services. Reverend Thomas Markham's arrival brought a quick response. Indian Agent Luke Lea notified the minister that the Shawnee Council wanted the northern preacher off the reserve... Markham's supporters countered quickly. In a communication to Commissioner of Indian Affairs Orlando Brown, Paschal Fish, Charles Fish, and William Rogers railed against Johnson's stance and argued that Lea overstepped the authority of his office. 'We as an independent people chose to remain in the old church,' they declared. More important, the Fish brothers and Rogers declared that the Shawnee council had gone too far. They asked that the Shawnee chiefs be informed, 'that this [religious affiliation] is a matter over which they have no right to control.'"
pp. 176-177:
"[In 1851] the Shawnees adopted a republican form of government, a move that heralded a more substantial transformation. This new governing structure contained seven elected officials: a head chief, a second chief, and five council members. Elections took place every autumn... A delegation of Shawnees, including Black Bob, protested to U.S. officials only a few years after the change. Rather than welcoming an elective government, Black Bob and his supporters believed that the old hereditary chief would best represent the tribe's interests..."
p. 177:
"[Joseph] Parks became the first elected chief in 1852 and over the next two years came under fire [from Black Bob and other like-minded Shawnees supporting the traditional hereditary chief system] for appearing to promote a new treaty with U.S. officials. But his position at the head of a new republican government recognized by the United States made the new chief difficult to depose or even oppose. Knowing that they lacked the power to initiate change from within, a delegation of six Shawnees visited the Kansas Agency in October 1853. Thomas Captain and Charles Bluejacket joined the familiar leading men of the Missouri bands, Charles Fish, Paschal Fish, Henry Rogers, and William Rogers, in protesting the future plans of their principal chief. They had heard that Parks was preparing to hire a frequent business partner of his, a lawyer named Richard w. Thompson, to draw up a treaty to send to the Commissioner of Indian Affairs. From all appearances, their complaints went unanswered. Indeed, it helped the U.S. government to have the Shawnee principal chief amenable to a treaty at a time when American expansion had become both desired and unavoidable.
"As the Shawnees faced the prospect of an organized Kansas Territory in 1854, they remained as divided as they had been when they first arrived on the reserve."
p. 222:
"Contests over authority among the Shawnees after 1854 were imbalanced. The Shawnees who held their lands in severalty dominated the elected council. Although Ohio Shawnees formed the core of this group, the leadership ranks included men of mixed descent who nominally belonged to the Missouri faction. Graham Rogers a member of the Council in the 1850s and the elected principal chief in 1865, was one of the more prominent of these Missouri-born Shawnees who accepted allotment and allied with the Ohio faction. He was the son of Lewis Rogers, a white man adopted by the Shawnees in the 1700s, and Parlie Blackfish, the daughter of the Shawnee leader Blackfish. Along with other members of the Shawnee band that once lived at Rogerstown, Graham and his family had settled along the Kansas River in 1828. He and other members of the Rogers band allied with the leading members of the Ohio Shawnees."
pp. 223-226:
"[During the Civil War, b]oth the Black Bob and Absentee Shawnees disputed the right of the Ohio faction to control the lands in Kansas, especially since the 1825 treaty that established the Western Reserve bore the marks of Missouri Shawnees.
"...In 1861, the Confederacy sent Albert Pike on a diplomatic mission to Indian territory. Southern sympathizers, Creek Indians among them, harassed the Absentee Shawnees when the latter refused to ally with the confederacy. Rather than endure this harassment, the Shawnees left Indian Territory and traveled north to Kansas... By the summer of 1863, the migration of Absentee Shawnees had increased the population of the refugee settlements on the Black Bob lands to more than one hundred and fifty men, women, and children. In the winter of 1864 the community expanded again when five hundred to seven hundred Shawnees fled their homes along the Kansas-Missouri and Kansas-Indian Territory borders.
"With this refugee infusion, the more traditional element now had the numbers to opposed the severalty Shawnees Approximately five hundred and forty Absentees resided in Kansas by the fall of 1863, and together with the Black Bob Shawnees, this mixed band totaled nearly seven hundred and seventy... Although voting normally took place in the fall, the 1862 elections were postponed to January 1863 because of wartime unrest. But when the Shawnees came together at DeSoto on January 12, a disagreement arose as to the manner of elections and those who would be allowed to participate... Now the Black Bobs argued that 'all Shawnees that held their land in severalty were citizens, and had no rights in the tribe.' In a decisive move, they held a separate election. On January 14 these Missouri Shawnees gathered at Paschal Fish's house and elected Black Bob as head chief and Paschal Fish as assistant chief. In the election report sent to President Abraham Lincoln, this alternate leadership argued their case in simple terms. 'Which shall govern,' they asked, 'the majority or the minority[?]' From their position the proper answer was clear. Yet, neither Lincoln nor any other federal official viewed this election as legitimate and did not alter their relationship with the Ohio Shawnee Council. Nevertheless Paschal Fish continued to assert the rights and authority of the Missouri Shawnees even after Black Bob's death in 1864.
"The Ohio Shawnees eagerly cast Paschal Fish as a hypocrite. He not only owned land in severalty, they pointed out, but had also served as an elected member of the Shawnee Council at various times from 1852 to 1860. Fish and his family had accepted allotments under the terms of the 1854 treaty. He had also actively participated in the republican government before his sudden passion for Black Bob's cause. Indeed, the Shawnees elected Paschal Fish as their principal chief in the fall of 1859. However, Fish resigned in disgrace less than a year into his tenure. 'A charge was made against him,' Charles Bluejacket explained, 'of receiving a bribe of one thousand dollars to induce him to pay to certain claimants a large sum of money belonging to the tribe.' Apparently the evidence was damning enough to force Fish's resignation. According to Bluejacket, Fish became an enemy of the Council from that point forward, and in Black Bob the former headman found a person and a cause to manipulate. Because Fish had attended a missionary school as a child and even became a Methodist preacher, his western education far surpassed that of most in the Black Bob band, and an intermediary role presented opportunities to influence negotiations. Critics of Fish also attacked his association with Abelard Guthrie. Guthrie, the Wyandot by adoption who claimed in the 1860s that he alone was responsible for the organization of Kansas Territory, was often accused in the 1860s of meddling in Shawnee affairs. Charles Bluejacket and others viewed Guthrie as a blowhard and an opportunist taking advantage of dissension to promote a personal agenda.
"Consequently, Paschal Fish's leadership may have had the unfortunate consequence of undermining the legitimacy of Missouri Shawnee opposition. At the very least, his participation made it easier for federal officials to ignore the voices of those Shawnees determined to assert traditional rights to leadership. Fish's personal history as a speculator and disgraced principal chief overshadowed the fact that the Missouri Shawnees had long seen themselves as the proper leaders based on the ancient divisions. But it is also likely that the federal government would have held the same position regardless of Fish's participation. Federal officials had consistently revealed a desire to promote 'government chiefs' and to create single polities from the multiple bands and villages of Indians who once populated he southern Great Lakes region. Rather than negotiating separately with several leaders, federal agents and commissioners had long advocated centralized native governments with at least nominal authority to make business decisions. Paschal Fish's presence would not necessarily have altered their position."
pp.231-232:
"From 1857, when government surveyors finalized selections among the Kansas Shawnees, to 1866, allotment, warfare, sales, and taxation separated most Shawnees from at least a portion of their original selection. Although numerous factors made the process of dispossession seemingly complex, the actual equation was simple. Conditions in Kansas made it difficult for anyone but the wealthy to hold on to their allotments. Before 1860, land sales occurred primarily at the instigation of prosperous Shawnees. As early as July 1857 local officials reported that, 'a number of the principal men of the tribe such as the Chief Joseph Parks, Blue Jacket and others are buying out those that will sell.' they key question was whether the federal government would validate such exchanges, and how soon the Office of Indian Affairs would permit sales to white men. Paschal Fish in particular intended to profit from eager and prosperous emigrants. In the winter of 1856-1857, he met three German speculators who traveled from Chicago to Kansas to purchase land on which they might establish a town. After a brief negotiation, the three men arranged to buy a large section at the mouth of the Wakarusa River. According to the contract, the town company would survey all of the eight hundred acres purchased from Fish. In a canny business move, however, fish sold the men only half of the acreage and retained the remaining four hundred acres in alternating sections on the surveyed town site. Then, in February 1858, the Shawnee real estate mogul sent a letter to Commissioner of Indian Affairs James Denver requesting a patent in fee simple for the land he and his family selected under the 1854 treaty. 'I propose to sell all or a portion of my lands to a company of men from Chicago, Illinois who intend to build up a town,' Fish explained, 'and unless you shall favorably regard my request I shall be unable to retain them here and my lands and those of my neighbors will lose the plus value they might acquire by the instance of that town.' Yet this communication was nothing more than a formality. The Chicago group settled, built, and populated the town of Eudora, [Kansas] appropriately named after one of Fish's daughters. Following the lead of the Territorial Legislature, Governor Samuel Medary approved Eudora's charter in February 1859. The only hindrance to the town's existence was the fact that Fish still had not received an official deed to his land from the federal government by the summer of 1859.
"... an act passed by Congress and approved in March 1859 set a number of conditions to be met before an Indian could sell off part of his or her allotment. These conditions included a certificate of competency signed by two chiefs of the individual's tribe as well as a certificate from the appropriate Indian Agent. If these and other steps were not fulfilled, the Secretary of the Interior could reject the deed. As illustrated by Paschal Fish, however, federal inaction did not necessarily hinder land transfers. This lax system cut both ways. Land sales helped Shawnees in desperate need of money to purchase food and clothing in the early 1860s. Yet the ease with which deeds were written and ownership transferred also made it easier for Shawnees to lose their allotments."
pp.238-239:
"[On] June 7, 1869, the Shawnee Council reached an agreement with the Cherokees, whereby the Shawnees would pay the Cherokees approximately $50,000 and would become members of the Cherokee Nation. The severalty Shawnees thus became Cherokee-Shawnees. President Grant approved this agreement on June 9, and the Shawnees arranged the disposal of their Kansas territory. Because of this agreement, the Shawnees, through their former agent and current attorney James Abbott, requested that 'the rules and regulations for the conveyance of their lands be so modified as to permit them to dispose of all their lands.' By 1871, seven hundred and seventy Shawnees resided within the boundaries of the Cherokee Nation.
"Even as they struggled to reach this agreement, the Shawnee Council battled with the Black Bob Shawnees over the latter's thirty-three thousand acre reserve. By 1865, squatters had laid claim to most of that land. Then in 1866, right before his term ended, Shawnee Agent James Abbott issued patents to individual plots on the reserve to sixty-nine Black Bob Shawnees. Most of the plots were promptly sold to persons other than the squatters. The resulting conflicting claims placed the Black Bob band in the middle of a legal battle that lasted into the 1880s. Paschal Fish argued that Abbott had issued fraudulent patents and that the subsequent sales should not be recognized. Further investigation by Kansas officials supported Fish's accusations. 'I never applied for a patent to my land,' a Shawnee named Wahkachawa testified in July 1869, 'nor never authorized any one to do so for me; I am opposed to the issuance of patents.' On the same day Wahkachawa registered his complaint, Jim Jacob and John Perry informed Justice of the Peach for Johnson County Sherman Kellogg that at least three of the Black Bobs who reportedly requested patents had been dead for years.
"...When a series of appeals and lawsuits by squatters and other interested parties kept the issue alive, the Black Bob Shawnees chose to leave Kansas without obtaining any satisfactory resolution. Rather than wait for financial closure that might never come, most of the Black Bobs moved to Indian Territory."
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From http://www.kansasheritage.org/werner/tavern.html - Hotels, Taverns and Stage Stations:
Fish's Hotel 1850's, Eudora, KT. Pascal Fish, Prop. At jct. of ferry road and Westport & Lawrence road, near center of S8 T13S R23E. (KHQ V.2 P.276)
and
from http://www.kansasheritage.org/werner/ferry.html - Fords, Ferries and Bridges:
Fish's Ferry 1845 on Kansas River at present Eudora. Pascal Fish, Prop. Units of Col. Stephen W. Kearny's Army of the West crossed here in 1846. Eudora P.O.1857, Frederick Metzeke, postmaster. (KHQ v.2 p.276; Barry p.558, 585, etc.)
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From http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/kansas/ :
Shawnee . In 1825 the Shawnee residing in Missouri received a grant of land along the south side of Kansas River, west of the boundary of Missouri. In 1831 they were joined by another body of Shawnee who had formerly lived at Wapaghkonnetta and on Hog Creek, Ohio. In 1854 nearly all of this land was re-ceded to the United States Government and the tribe moved to Indian Territory, the present Oklahoma. (See Tennessee .)
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From The Emigrant Tribes: Wyandot, Delaware & Shawnee, A Chronology by Larry Hancks:
1858 - January 1; Paschal Fish is elected Head Chief of the Shawnee Nation, replacing Captain Joseph Parks. Fish owns and operates a trading store and ferry on the site of the present town of Eudora (named for his daughter), some 6 miles east of Lawrence.
• Legislation: Indian Removal Act passed by Congress, 28 May 1830, Washington, District of Columbia, United States. Source: The Emigrant Tribes: Wyandot, Delaware & Shawnee, A Chronology by Larry Hancks, http://www.wyandow.org/emigrant.htm (5/21/08)
• Residence: by 1832, Kansas Territory (Kansas), United States.
• Established: Wakarusa Indian Mission, 1848, Eudora, Kansas, United States.
• Sold: 800 acres to German Settlement Society, Feb 1857, (Eudora, Kansas, United States). Chicago Settlement Co.
• Correspondence: Letter to Commissioner of Indian Affairs, 20 Apr 1850. Letter to Commissioner of Indian Affairs protesting Agent Lea's order to Rev. Markham signed by several prominent Shawnee, including William Rodgers and Paschal Fish.
• Treaty: Ceded Land along the south side of Kansas River, west of the boundary of Missouri back to United States, 10 May 1854. Paschal Fish was one of the signers of the treaty, in addition to Charles Fish, Joseph Parks, Black Hoof, Graham Rogers, Henry Blue Jacket, Jackson Rogers, Black Bob and several other persons. In 1854 nearly all of this land was re-ceded to the United States Government and the tribe moved to Indian Territory, the present Oklahoma.
• Census: of Shawnee, 1854. Paschal Fish age 50
Martha, wife, 40
Obediah, 12
Eudora, 9
Leander Jackson, 7
• Census: 1856. Age 50
• Bought back: the odd-numbered lots of at least three blocks between the Kaw and Wakarusa rivers, Feb 1857.
• Incorporated: Eudora, Kansas, incorporated as a city, Fall 1858, Eudora, Kansas, United States.
• Elected: Elected Head Chief of the Shawnee Nation, 1 Jan 1858. Served 1 year
• Deed: 1860, Eudora, Kansas, (United States). Daughter Mary T. Fish listed on deed.
• Represented: city of Eudora, Kansas, May 1860, Washington, District of Columbia, United States. From Eudora city council minutes:
March 17, 1860-"The Mayor presented for consideration the problem of investigating whether the city is justified in collecting real estate taxes, and in selling the lots which have accrued to the city through nonpayment of the assessed taxes, Tabled."
• Moved: From Eudora to Indian Territory near Miami, Oklahoma, 1870, Miami, (Ottawa), Oklahoma Territory (Oklahoma), United States.
Paschal married Hester Armstrong "Hetty" Zane on 14 Oct 1847. Hester was born in 1816 in Champaign Co., Ohio, United States, died on 17 Apr 1852 at age 36, and was buried in Huron Indian Cemetery-Wyandotte National Burial Grounds, Kansas City, Wyandotte, Kansas, United States.
Marriage Notes: Date may have been 14 Oct 1846
Children from this marriage were:
32 i. Leander Jackson "Leading Turtle" Fish (Relationship to Father: Biological, Relationship to Mother: Biological ) (born on 7 May 1852 in (Wyandotte), Kansas Territory (Kansas, United States) - died in 1912 in [near Quapaw], Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States)
ii. Eudora Fish 43 44 45 46 (Relationship to Father: Biological, Relationship to Mother: Biological ) was born about 1848, died on 10 Apr 1877 in LaCygne, Kansas, United States about age 29, and was buried in 1877 in Huron Indian Cemetery-Wyandotte National Burial Grounds, Kansas City, Wyandotte, Kansas, United States.
iii. Obediah Fish was born about 1849.
iv. Andrew Fish 47 was born about 1851.
Paschal next married Mary Ann McClure after 1852. Mary was born about 1795.
The child from this marriage was:
i. Mary T. Fish was born after 1854.
Paschal next married Martha Captain before 1854. Martha was born about 1814.
Paschal next married Jane "Hoh-tha-wa-ka-se" Quinney in 1859 in Kansas Territory (Kansas), United States. Jane was born about 1832 and died in 1873 about age 41.
Marriage Notes: Source:
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:2394013&id=I3288
65. Hester Armstrong "Hetty" Zane, daughter of General Isaac W. Zane, Jr. and Hannah Dickinson, was born in 1816 in Champaign Co., Ohio, United States, died on 17 Apr 1852 at age 36, and was buried in Huron Indian Cemetery-Wyandotte National Burial Grounds, Kansas City, Wyandotte, Kansas, United States.
Birth Notes: Source RootsWeb: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:3194409&id=I0359
Death Notes: From www.wyandot.org/burial.htm:
WYANDOT BURIALS
Huron Cemetery - Wyandotte National Burial Ground
The following is a list of individuals who are believed to have been buried in the Huron Indian Cemetery. The list is derived from the journals of William Walker, Jr., from various tribal and family records found in the Connelley Collection at the Kansas City, Kansas Public Library, from William E. Connelley's 1896 survey of the cemetery, and from the Kansas City, Kansas City Clerk's Mortality Records, July 9, 1892 et seq. In many cases, the actual grave locations are not presently known. Those individuals who have marked or identifiable
grave locations are noted with an asterisk (*).
Hester A. (Hetty) Zane Fish; ? - April 17, 1852*
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From www.wyandot.org/emigrant.htm (The Emigrant Tribes: Wyandot, Delaware & Shaenee, A Chronology by Larry Hancks):
April 17 [1852]: death of Hester Zane Fish, wife of Shawnee chief Paschal Fish. William and Hanna Walker are deeply upset by the death of "our Hetty."
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Source http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:3194409&id=I0359 has d. 1867.
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A later date is unlikely, in spite of an obituary in a publication in 1855:
"FISH, MRS. PASCAL, aged about 50 yrs., d. on the Shawnee Indian Reservation, April 29, 1855." (Lawrence, Herald of Freedom, May 5.)
[Copied from http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/Delta/3731/grpf2456.html]
Was this Mrs. Pascal Fish a subsequent wife?
Burial Notes: www.wyandot.org/burial.htm
Research Notes: The following is relevant if Hetty was Leander Jackson Fish's mother.
From text accompanying a photograph from the Smithsonian Institution archives:
"[Leander] Jackson Fish's father [Paschal Fish] was half Shawnee, one eighth Miami and one sixteenth Delaware; his mother was one fourth Wyandot (Huron). "
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Wyandot Metis
Sources:
www.wyandot.org/emigrant.htm
Historic Shawnee Names of the 1700s - http://www.shawnee-traditions.com/Names-7.html
Others.
See http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:3194409&id=I0233 for Zane brothers and sisters.
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From http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/kansas/ :
Wyandot . The Wyandot purchased land in eastern Kansas on Missouri River from the Delaware in 1843 and parted with it again in 1850. A few Wyandot also held title to land along with other tribes on the border of Oklahoma and re-ceded it along with them in 1867. (See Ohio .)
Hester married Chief Paschal "Pas-Cal-We" Fish 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 on 14 Oct 1847. Paschal was born in 1805 in Shawnee Tribe, (Kansas Territory), (United States) and died in 1894 in Baxter Springs, Cherokee, Kansas, United States at age 89.
66. Richard Joseph Large,48 21 49 50 son of William Large and Nancy <Thompson>, was born on 11 May 1849 in Lawrence Co., Kentucky, United States51 and was buried before 30 May 2005 in Fairview Cemetery, Melrose, Cherokee, Kansas.
Research Notes: http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.martin/2944.1/mb.ashx Mary June Power, McCarty wrote on 26 March 2002 :
I have been searching for my family roots for 21 years. My G-G-Grandfather was RICHARD JOSEPH LARGE, he married MARY JANE DAVIDSON. She was the daughter of MARY ELIZABETH FAEGOR-DAVIDSON and WILLIAM LARGE. Marriage date 11-21-1873, Parksville, Platt County, Missouri.
Mary Jane was born 3-11-1859 in Harrison County, Missouri. She died 5-10-1937, buried Fairview Cemetery, Melrose Kansas. Funeral Services were conducted by Lane Funeral Hme, of Miami, Oklahoma. Jim Thomas Funeral Home, Miami, Oklahoma has the records.
Parents of Richard Joseph Large: William Large and Nancy ____ Large.
Children of Richard Joseph and Mary Jane Large:
Mary Kathern (Large) Fish, Wills b. 5-6-1874, St. Paul, Neosho County, Kansas. Buried GAR Cemetary, Miami, Oklahoma, died 8-14-1939. ( Her last husband was BOB WILLS, of BOB WILLS and the TEXAS PLAYBOYS)
DDora Rena (Large) Thomas b. 2-4-1875, Platt County, Missouri. Married Donald Thomas, they had one son, Nathan Thomas.
Della Therisia (Large) Carnal, Boggs: b. 12-23-1879, in St.Paul, Neosho County, Kansas. Died 8-12-1956, buried GAR Cemetary, Miami, Okahoma, under the name of DELLA CARNAL.
Thomas James Large: b. 8-23-1882, Bourbon County, Kansas. d. 10-5-1932.
John Henry Large: b. 7-8-1885, Bourbon County, Kansas, now Ft. Scott, Kansas. He married Allie F. Brand, 10-3-1914, Miami, Oklahoma. He died 10-16-1935, of T.B., at the time of his death he lived in Douthat, Oklahoma. He is buried in the GAR Cemetery, Miami, Oklahoma. Funeral Records are held by Jim Thomas Funeral Home, Miami, Oklahoma, services were conducted by Lane Funeral Home.
Bertie Samuel Large: b. 3-24-1891, Baxter Springs, Kansas, Cherokee County. died 8-25-1930. Twin of Gertrude Elnora Large.
Gertrude Elnora (Large) Long, b. 3-24-1891, Baxter Springs, Cherokee County, Kansas. Married Kenneth Long, had three children, Pearl Herbert, Glenn Long. Gertrude died 1931 or 1932, in Hollister California.
Herman Leroy Large: b. 5-23-1893, Indian Territory, Quapaw Reservation, Quapaw, Oklahoma.
Nathan Landon Large, b. 5-9-1888, Seneca, Newton County, Missouri. Married Alta Florence Rinehart, 3-12-1911. North Miami, Oklahoma. He died 12-8-1922, Douthat, Oklahoma of pneumonia, buried at Melrose Kansas, Fairview Cemetery.
Green-Stephens Undertaking Co. handled Funeral services.(of Picher, Oklahoma)
I have the next three generations which includes me, they are the daughter of Nathan Landon Large= Charlotte Jane large, b. 12-6-1911, Douthat, Oklahoma. Married Lawrence Leroy Wood, 10-24-1924, Treece, Cherokee County, Kansas.
Lavada Marie Wood, Power , b. 9-10-1925, Douthat, Oklahoma,d. 1-8-1997, Joplin, Missouri, buried Ozark Memorial Cemetery, Joplin, Missouri,
Me,
Mary June Power, McCarty b. 5-21-1947, Miami, Oklahoma,
NOT DEAD YET!
Hope this helps you in some way. I have been searching for my grandmothers Blackfoot blood line, and her Cherkee line. Do you Know anything about these? Mary
Richard married Mary Jane Davidson 21 52 53 54 on 21 Nov 1873 in Parkville, Platte, Missouri, United States. Mary was born on 11 Mar 1859 in Harrison Co., Missouri, United States, died on 10 May 1937 in Douthat, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States53 at age 78, and was buried on 12 May 1937 in Fairview Cemetery, Melrose, Cherokee, Kansas.
Children from this marriage were:
33 i. Mary Kathern Large 19 20 21 22 (born on 6 May 1874 in St. Paul, Neosho, Kansas, United States - died on 11 Aug 1939, buried in G.A.R. Cemetery, Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States)
ii. Dora Rena Large 23 was born on 4 Feb 1875 in Platte Co., Missouri, United States.
iii. Della Theresa Large 23 55 was born on 23 Dec 1880 in St. Paul, Neosho, Kansas, United States, died on 12 Aug 1956 at age 75, and was buried in G.A.R. Cemetery, Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States.
iv. Thomas James Large 23 56 was born on 23 Aug 1882 in Bourbon Co., Kentucky, United States and died <26 Mar 1919> in Douthat, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States at age 36.
v. John Henry Large 23 was born on 8 Jul 1885 in (Ft. Scott), Bourbon, Kentucky, United States, died on 16 Oct 1935 in <Douthat, Oklahoma, United States> at age 50, and was buried in G.A.R. Cemetery, Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States.
vi. Nathan Landon Large 57 was born on 9 May 1888 in Seneca, Newton, Missouri, United States, died on 8 Dec 1922 in Douthat, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States at age 34, and was buried in Fairview Cemetery, Melrose, Cherokee, Kansas.53
vii. Bertie Samuel Large 23 was born on 24 Mar 1891 in Baxter Springs, Cherokee, Kansas, United States and died on 25 Aug 1930 at age 39.
viii. Gertrude Elnora Large 23 was born on 24 Mar 1891 in Baxter Springs, Cherokee, Kansas, United States and died about 1931 in Hollister, San Benito, California, United States about age 40.
ix. Herman Leroy Large 23 was born on 23 May 1893 in Quapaw, Quapaw Reservation, Indian Territory (Ottawa), Oklahoma, United States.
67. Mary Jane Davidson,21 52 53 54 daughter of William Davidson and Mary Elizabeth Faeger, was born on 11 Mar 1859 in Harrison Co., Missouri, United States, died on 10 May 1937 in Douthat, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States53 at age 78, and was buried on 12 May 1937 in Fairview Cemetery, Melrose, Cherokee, Kansas.
Birth Notes: Findagrave has b. 1 May 1858, but no photo.
Death Notes: Died of pneumonia. Findagrave has d. 12 May 1937, but no photo.
Research Notes: Family Records of LeRoy Paschal Fish and Carol Jean Kirk have only name Mary Jane.
FamilySearch.org has b. abt 1854.
Main source is Mary June Power, McCarty in boards.ancestry.com.
"I have been searching for my family roots for 21 years. My G-G-Grandfather was RICHARD JOSEPH LARGE, he married MARY JANE DAVIDSON. She was the daughter of MARY ELIZABETH FAEGOR-DAVIDSON and WILLIAM LARGE. Marriage date 11-21-1873, Parksville, Platt County, Missouri.
"Mary Jane was born 3-11-1859 in Harrison County, Missouri. She died 5-10-1937, buried Fairview Cemetery, Melrose Kansas. Funeral Services were conducted by Lane Funeral Hme, of Miami, Oklahoma. Jim Thomas Funeral Home, Miami, Oklahoma has the records."
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FindaGrave has b. 1 Mar 1858, d. 12 May 1937. No photo of the gravestone for confirmation.
From http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=D&GSiman=1&GSsr=41&GScid=92428&GRid=9098113& :
"MY GREAT-GREAT GRANDMOTHER"
Daughter of William and Mary Elizabeth (Faeger) Davidson.
She married Richard Joseph Large Nov. 21, 1873.
Mother of Mary Kathern, Dora Rena, Della Theresa, Thomas James, John Henry, Herman Leroy, Nathan Landon (My Great- Grandfather), and (twins) Bertie Samuel and Gertrude "Gertie" Elnora Large.
Mary married Richard Joseph Large 48 21 49 50 on 21 Nov 1873 in Parkville, Platte, Missouri, United States. Richard was born on 11 May 1849 in Lawrence Co., Kentucky, United States51 and was buried before 30 May 2005 in Fairview Cemetery, Melrose, Cherokee, Kansas.
68. William Henry Carnal 58 was born on 3 Mar 1831 in Tennessee, United States, died on 11 Feb 1889 at age 57, and was buried in Seneca Cemetery, Seneca, Newton, Missouri, United States.
Birth Notes: FindaGrave.com has b. 4 March 1831.
Research Notes: From FamilySearch.org
U.S. Census 1880 Johnson, Polk, Missouri :
Birth Year <1830>
Birthplace NC
Age 50
Occupation Blacksmith
Marital Status M <Married>
Race W <White>
Head of Household William CARNAL
Relation Self
William married Clara Jane Bottom. Clara was born in North Carolina, United States and died in Paris, Lamar, Texas, United States.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Spencer E. Carnal 59 was born in 1869, died in 1924 at age 55, and was buried in G.A.R. Cemetery, Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States.60
34 ii. Solomon Madison Carnal 24 (born on 20 Jan 1872 in Bolivar, Polk, Missouri, United States - died on 20 Dec 1956 in Picher, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States)
69. Clara Jane Bottom was born in North Carolina, United States and died in Paris, Lamar, Texas, United States.
Clara married William Henry Carnal.58 William was born on 3 Mar 1831 in Tennessee, United States, died on 11 Feb 1889 at age 57, and was buried in Seneca Cemetery, Seneca, Newton, Missouri, United States.
70. Albert Americus Thomas was born about 1865 in [near Little York], Washington, Indiana, United States and died in McDonald Co., Missouri, United States.
Albert married Nancy Arminta Dobbs 61 on 15 Apr 1883 in Missouri, United States. Nancy was born on 9 Feb 1865 in McDonald Co., Missouri, United States and died on 16 Apr 1939 in McDonald Co., Missouri, United States at age 74.
The child from this marriage was:
35 i. Hattie Eudora Thomas 25 (born on 25 Feb 1884 - died on 11 Feb 1927, buried in G.A.R. Cemetery, Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States)
71. Nancy Arminta Dobbs 61 was born on 9 Feb 1865 in McDonald Co., Missouri, United States and died on 16 Apr 1939 in McDonald Co., Missouri, United States at age 74.
Birth Notes: May have been born 7 Feb 1860.
Research Notes: This may be the same person - From GenForm (http://genforum.genealogy.com/dobbs/messages/721.html):
14 Sep 1999 - From Fred Warren Davis
Searching for info on Minta Dobbs, b. 7FEB1860, place unk. d. 16Apr1939, Mcdonald
County, Mo. Married to Albert Americus Thomas, b. Little York IN, d. Mcdonald County, MO. Would appreciate any help. Fred.
Followups:
30 Apr 2000 - From Leon Dobbs
I have information on a Nancy Arminta Dobbs born 9 Feb 1865 who married Albert A. Thomas on 15 Apr 1893 in Missouri. I have information about her parents, grandparents etc and their 7 children and spouses. I was not able to reach Fred through his e mail address today.
14 Sep 1999 - From Betty Dobbs Wilson
McDonald County was full of the Dobbs family from Claiborne County Tennessee. Though I am not familiar with the name Minta, many of the siblings of my suspected ancestors are from McDonald County. My known ancestors were in Laclede and Pulaski counties of Missouri. My gggrandfather was Lide W Dobbs, supposed to be the son of John Dobbs who was in McDonald County as well as many of John Dobbs siblings. Good luck in your research-You might definitely try McMinn or Claiborne county-Tennessee. Betty
Nancy married Albert Americus Thomas on 15 Apr 1883 in Missouri, United States. Albert was born about 1865 in [near Little York], Washington, Indiana, United States and died in McDonald Co., Missouri, United States.
72. Richard J. Kirk,14 son of William Matthew Kirk, Sr. and Elizabeth Harvill, was born on 4 Mar 1838 in Jefferson Co., Illinois, United States, died on 29 Nov 1872 in Nevada, Vernon, Missouri, United States at age 34, and was buried in Lawrence Cemetery, Stokesbury, Vernon, Missouri, United States.
Richard married Martha A. Crook 14 on 22 Mar 1857 in Fort Scott, Bourbon, Kentucky, United States. Martha was born about 1841 in Missouri, United States and died in 1883 in Metz, Vernon, Missouri, United States about age 42.
The child from this marriage was:
36 i. George Robert Kirk 14 (born on 19 Aug 1872 in Nevada, Vernon, Missouri, United States - died on 30 Jun 1944 in Miami, (Ottawa), Oklahoma, United States)
73. Martha A. Crook,14 daughter of William Crook and Susan Simmons, was born about 1841 in Missouri, United States and died in 1883 in Metz, Vernon, Missouri, United States about age 42.
Birth Notes: May have been born about 1844.
Martha married Richard J. Kirk 14 on 22 Mar 1857 in Fort Scott, Bourbon, Kentucky, United States. Richard was born on 4 Mar 1838 in Jefferson Co., Illinois, United States, died on 29 Nov 1872 in Nevada, Vernon, Missouri, United States at age 34, and was buried in Lawrence Cemetery, Stokesbury, Vernon, Missouri, United States.
Martha next married John G. Wehmeyer, Sr. 14 in 1875. John died in 1879.
Martha next married Andrew T. Staley 14 in 1879 in Missouri, United States. Andrew was born in 1831 in Indiana, United States and died in 1881 in Missouri, United States at age 50.
74. James Densmore Parsons,14 son of Jesse Parsons and Phebe Jane < >, was born on 13 Mar 1849 in <Thornton, Boone, Indiana>, United States, died on 22 Nov 1896 at age 47, and was buried in Walker Cemetery, Welch, Craig, Oklahoma, United States.
Research Notes: Second husband of Nancy Jane White.
James married Nancy Jane White 14 in 1875 in Girard, Crawford, Kansas, United States. Nancy was born on 10 Aug 1839 in Thornton, Boone, Indiana, United States, died on 25 Sep 1919 in Centralia, Craig, Oklahoma, United States at age 80, and was buried in Martin Cemetery, Childers, Nowata, Oklahoma, United States.62
The child from this marriage was:
37 i. Grace Elizabeth Parsons 14 (born on 11 Feb 1876 in Fort Scott, Bourbon, Kansas, United States - died on 26 Nov 1951 in Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States)
75. Nancy Jane White,14 daughter of Samuel F. White and Rebecca Jane Lipsey, was born on 10 Aug 1839 in Thornton, Boone, Indiana, United States, died on 25 Sep 1919 in Centralia, Craig, Oklahoma, United States at age 80, and was buried in Martin Cemetery, Childers, Nowata, Oklahoma, United States.62
Nancy married James Fredrick Hency 14 on 18 Mar 1858 in Tippecanoe, Marshall, Indiana, United States.
Nancy next married James Densmore Parsons 14 in 1875 in Girard, Crawford, Kansas, United States. James was born on 13 Mar 1849 in <Thornton, Boone, Indiana>, United States, died on 22 Nov 1896 at age 47, and was buried in Walker Cemetery, Welch, Craig, Oklahoma, United States.
Nancy next married Hiram Stapleton 14 in 1910. Hiram was born in <Centralia, Craig, Oklahoma>, United States.
76. William Henry Switzer,50 63 64 65 son of David Switzer and Anna Campbell, was born in Dec 1843 in Ray Co., Missouri, United States and died after 1900 in Hector, Pope, Arkansas, United States.
Birth Notes: Source:
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=cathyconn&id=I59 has b. Dec 1844 in Ray Co., Missouri, but also notes discrepancies in age given in census data, making it possible that he was born between 1843 and 1847.
Family records of Carol Jean Kirk & LeRoy Paschal Fish have b. abt 1846, possibly in Arkansas.
Research Notes: From Letter from Barbara L. Holman, September 7, 2006 to Switzer descendents with family tree "The Switzer Family Heritage" :
"Note: Later wives of Henry S. Switzer were Bettie Popejoy, Mary Dickens, Ellen Frasier and Sarah Choate. Sarah Choate tells of Henry's death as being in Hector, Arkansas, at the home of Seab Ward and that Henry was a former soldier."
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From http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=cathyconn&id=I59
Census data :
1860 Shoul Creek Township, Newton Co. MO 293-291
David SWITZER, age 45, Male, Farmer, 140, Ohio
Hanna D. age 27, female, MO
Henry age 12, Male, MO
Milly, age 5, female, MO
Mary age 3, female, MO
Jane age 1, female, MO
1870 Searcy Co. AR Census-- Richland Townsp 94-95
SWITSER, Henry rw age 23 (1) b. MO (If he is 23 years old, then he must have been born in 1847) (Must have married Nellie J. in MO, since first child is born there too.)
Nelley J. age 22 (12) b. TN
Mary J. age 4 b. MO
Sarah L. age 2 b. AR
John C. age 4/12 b. Feb.AR
1880 Searcy Co. AR. Census 8-8
SWITZER, Henry, male, age 36(b. 1844, I don't think he's sure how old he is, because in the 1870 census he was 23 years old.) married, farmer, born in MO, VA, uk;
Mary, female age 34, wife b. AR;
Sarah L. age 13 female b. AR, MO, TN
John C. male age 10, b. AR, MO, TN;
Daniel W. male age 9 son b. AR, MO, TN
(Note: Wife in 1870 was Nelley J.)
SWITZER, Harriet female age 7 daughter, b. AR, MO, TN.
Samuel male age 1 b. AR, MO;
DICKENS, James age 12 stepson AR, UK, UK;
John M. male age 3 stepson, AR, UK, UK;
Bell female age 7 stepdaughter, AR, UK, UK,
Cora female age 5 stepdaughter, AR, UK, UK
Ida, age 4 stepdaughter, AR, UK, UK
1900 Searcy Co. Census: States Widowed,
and that he was born in AR but that both of his parents were born in MO. He was Living W/son Dan and gave his birthdate as Dec 1843.
• Occupation: Soldier.
William married Ellender Jane Manes 50 66 67 68 about 1864 in <Missouri, United States>. Ellender was born in 1848 in Bradley, Tennessee, United States and died in 1879 at age 31.
Marriage Notes: From http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=cathyconn&id=I59
(Must have married Nellie J. in
MO, since first child is born there too.)
Children from this marriage were:
i. Mary Jane Switzer was born in Aug 1865 in Missouri, United States.
ii. Sarah L. Switzer was born about 1868.
iii. John Clayborne Switzer 63 69 70 was born on 1 Feb 1870 in Blanco, Searcy, Arkansas, United States, died on 17 Jul 1956 in <Searcy, Arkansas>, United States at age 86, and was buried in Whisenant Cemetery, Snowball, Searcy, Arkansas, United States.
iv. Harriet Switzer was born Feb <1871>.
38 v. Daniel Wesley Switzer 28 29 30 (born on 11 Jun 1872 in Illinois, United States - died on 26 May 1951 in Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States)
vi. Samuel Switzer was born in 1879.
77. Ellender Jane Manes,50 66 67 71 daughter of Rev. Clabourn Lafayette Manes and Sarah Sampley, was born in 1848 in Bradley, Tennessee, United States and died in 1879 at age 31.
Birth Notes: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=cathyconn&id=I60 gives b. 1848 in Bradley Co., TN. Another source has b. abt. 1850 possibly in Arkansas. The former source seems more authoritative
Research Notes: Family records of LeRoy Paschal Fish and Carol Jean Kirk have Jane Manos, b. abt 1850, possibly in Arkansas, last name Manos. This is probably inaccurate, a misreading of handwritten name.
This site,
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=cathyconn&id=I60
has other detail plus parents, with last name Manes instead of Manos.
"She was a sister to Dave and Reno Manes. He played a banjo and
played songs."
Ellender married William Henry Switzer 50 63 64 65 about 1864 in <Missouri, United States>. William was born in Dec 1843 in Ray Co., Missouri, United States and died after 1900 in Hector, Pope, Arkansas, United States.
78. Henry Thomas Seitz,28 72 73 son of Abraham Seitz and Martha Conelly, was born on 5 May 1842 in <Saint Joe, Searcy, Arkansas, United States>, died on 5 Sep 1904 in <Snowball, Searcy, Arkansas, United States> at age 62, and was buried in McMahan Cemetery, Snowball, Searcy, Arkansas, United States.74
Burial Notes: From http://www.arfamilies.info/afcemsearcymcmahan.htm - McMahan Cemetery :
Henry Seitz May 5, 1842 September 5, 1904
Husband of Elizabeth Moore
Married May 13, 1883 Book B, page 191 Searcy County, Arkansas
Research Notes: Did they have a son named Henry Oscar Seitz, who died when he was 14? (See http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=s&GSiman=1&GScid=1986756&GRid=34526096&)
• Moved to Snowball, AR: after marriage.
Henry married Martha Ann Plemmons 75 76 <1867> in <Georgia>, United States. Martha was born on 28 Oct 1842 in Gilmer, Georgia, United States, died on 23 Oct 1882 in Snowball, Searcy, Arkansas, United States at age 39, and was buried in McMahan Cemetery, Snowball, Searcy, Arkansas, United States.
Children from this marriage were:
i. John Thomas Seitz 75 77 was born on 15 Sep 1868, died on 21 Dec 1948 at age 80, and was buried in Garden of Memories Cemetery, Vian, Sequoyah, Oklahoma, United States.
39 ii. Georgia Augusta Seitz 14 28 31 33 78 (born on 18 Mar 1876 in Snowball, Searcy, Arkansas, United States - died on 5 Jul 1928 in <Oklahoma>, United States)
iii. Martha Francis Seitz 79 was born on 22 Nov 1877 in Blanco, Searcy, Arkansas, United States and died on 5 Feb 1963 in Snowball, Searcy, Arkansas, United States at age 85.
iv. Malissa Ann Seitz 80 81 was born on 15 Nov 1880, died on 15 Jun 1903 at age 22, and was buried in McMahan Cemetery, Snowball, Searcy, Arkansas, United States.
Henry next married Elizabeth Moore,82 daughter of Elijah Moore and Mary Jane Stanley, on 13 May 1883 in Searcy Co., Arkansas, United States.83 Elizabeth was born on 4 Apr 1844 in Arkansas, United States, died on 1 Nov 1903 in Searcy Co., Arkansas, United States at age 59, and was buried in McMahan Cemetery, Snowball, Searcy, Arkansas, United States.74
Burial Notes: Elizabeth Seitz April 4, 1844 November 1, 1903
Daughter of Elijah Moore and Mary Jane Stanley
Wife of Henry Seitz
79. Martha Ann Plemmons,75 76 daughter of Thomas Plemons and Margaret < >, was born on 28 Oct 1842 in Gilmer, Georgia, United States, died on 23 Oct 1882 in Snowball, Searcy, Arkansas, United States at age 39, and was buried in McMahan Cemetery, Snowball, Searcy, Arkansas, United States.
Birth Notes: May have died in 1848.
According to a transcribed 1850 census, she was 8 years old at that time. FindaGrave has b. 28 Oct 1848.
Research Notes: Family records of LeRoy Paschal Fish and Carol Jean Kirk have only Martha (no surname).
FindaGrave.com has Martha Ann Plemmons Seitz.
From http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cenfiles/ga/gilmer/1850/p376b.txt :
Year: 1850
State: Georgia
County: Gilmer Sheet
No: 377A Reel No: M432-70 Division: Subdivision 33 Page No: 754 Enumerated on: Aug - Dec 7th - 19th, 1850 by: C.H.A. Ellington Transcribed by Cassandra R. Newby for USGenWeb, http://www.rootsweb.com/census/. Copyright: 2003
397 Thomas Plemons 51 M Farmer 1000 [acres] [born in] NC
Margaret Plemons 50 F NC
Martha A. Plemons 8 F GA
Martha married Henry Thomas Seitz 28 72 73 <1867> in <Georgia>, United States. Henry was born on 5 May 1842 in <Saint Joe, Searcy, Arkansas, United States>, died on 5 Sep 1904 in <Snowball, Searcy, Arkansas, United States> at age 62, and was buried in McMahan Cemetery, Snowball, Searcy, Arkansas, United States.74
Eighth Generation 128. William Jackson "Captain" Fish,,84 42 85 son of <Joseph > Jackson and < > , [Shawnee Woman] was born about 1760 and died Late Oct 1833 about age 73.
Birth Notes: http://www.shawnee-traditions.com/Names-7.html has b. abt 1760
Death Notes: www.wyandot.org/emigrant.htm has late October, 1833.
http://www.shawnee-traditions.com/Names-7.html has d. 1833
Another source states that he died at the Shawnee Mission in 1834. Burial?
Research Notes: May have been 1/4 Miami and 1/8 Delaware (see below).
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From text accompanying a photograph from the Smithsonian Institution archives:
"[Leander] Jackson Fish's father [Paschal Fish] was half Shawnee, one eighth Miami and one sixteenth Delaware. "
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If the math is correct and Paschal Fish's mother was 100% Shawnee, then his father [William Jackson] was probably 1/4 Miami and 1/8 Delaware. On the other hand, if Paschal Fish's mother was Polly Rogers, either Polly was 1/4 Miami and 1/8 Delaware with William Jackson Fish identifying himself as Shawnee, or Polly was 100% Shawnee and William Jackson Fish was 1/4 Miami and 1/8 Delaware.
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From Historic Shawnee Names of the 1700s - http://www.shawnee-traditions.com/Names-7.html
"Fish aka William Jackson - Adopted-white born about 1760-died 1833 - adopted son of Black Fish before 1778, raiding Ohio River valley 1788, Little Turtle War, move to MO 1828, husband 1st about 1780 of Elizabeth Bishop-white, 2nd about 1789 of Shawnee Woman, 3rd 1798 of Polly Rogers-1/2 Shawnee Metis (granddaughter of Black Fish), father with Shawnee Woman of Arch/90, Pascal/92, Isaac/94, Andrew/95, Jesse/96-all 1/2 Shawnee Metis, no children of record with Elizabeth, with Polly of Elizabeth Nakease/98, John/99, William Jr/1800-all 1/4th Shawnee Metis"
See notes under Joseph Jackson. It is unlikely that the Joseph Jackson captured by the Shawnee with Daniel Boone in 1778 was this William Jackson's father since records show this William adopted by the Shawnee before that Joseph was captured.
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From http://www.geocities.com/sam_cook_53/grpf2458.html :
"William Jackson was an adopted captive who lived with the Shawnees. After the treaty of Greenville, life became difficult for William Jackson and the other whites living red. Traders hooked a large proportion of the red population on alcohol created a sub-nation of alcoholics and therefore demanded furs for whiskey. The land was already over-hunted by both reds and whites, and game became even more scarce. Those with eyes clear enough to see what was happening were disgusted by the general discenegration of red society and were ripe for the political movement of Prophet when it came along. During this time, many of the whites living red despaired and like George Ash, Bill Cunningham, Christopher Miller, and many others, they tried to come back to live with their white relatives. One of these was William Jackson. But he soon felt too uncomfortable among the whites and went back to the Shawnees. William Jackson's Shawnee name was Fish, and he became the leader of a band of Shawnees that became known as the Fish Band.
"The [Baptist] missionary Isaac McCoy wrote that he tried to convince Capt. Cornstalk and Capt. William Perry, the Shawnee Chiefs, to agree to the establishment of a mission school among them. McCoy says that they replied negatively, saying that 'they felt little desire for schools and still less to hear preaching.'
"However, McCoy made a deal with 'a white man by the name of Fish, who had lived with the Shawnees from a small boy and was in all respects identified with them, had become a principal of a clan which had lived many years in the state of Missouri and was a good deal civilized.'
"See McCoy, p. 404 George Vashon, the indian agent, wrote of his approval for the mission at the request of Fish, who was also called William Jackson, a white man raised with the Shawnees '...Fish, the Shawnee chief, has a son by the name of Paschal who was put to school when he was a boy. He can speak English very well. He is a sober, steady, moral, good man. He had an Indian family and is industrously employed in farming...'
"Footnotes
Richard Pangburn, Indian Blood-Finding your Native American Ancestor, Vol. I [206 <grpbib9.html>] (Butler Books, Louiville, Kentucky).
see notes."
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See KHC, vol. 9, pp. 166,167. Historian Rodney Staab of Shawnee Mission, Kansas, has furnished me with an excellent account of Chief Fish written by Fern Long. Her information conflicts somewhat with other sources, but it should not be missed by anyone doing research on the Jackson/Fish family. According to her 1978 article on Chief Fish, she agrees that [William Jackson Fish] was captured as a youth and raised by the Shawnees in the band of Lewis Rogers whose daughter he married. Paschal Fish was "a large-framed man" who "also acquired the Indian ways seeming to be totally Indian." but at the same time, she says "these Shawnees had associated with white people for generations and desired a settled life with homes, schools, churches, ___and agriculture."
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From Kansas State Historical Society
Letter 13 Jan 1831 from Richard W. Cummins, U.S. Ind. Agt., Delaware & Shawnee Agency to William Clark, S.I.A., St. Louis:
"Chiefs of Fish's or Jackson's band of Shawnees have agreed to allow a school to be started. Revd. Mr. McAllister & Thomas Johnson hope to have school in operation early in spring."
• Adopted: by Black Fish (Shawnee), Bef 1778.
• Legislation: Indian Removal Act passed by Congress, 28 May 1830. Source: The Emigrant Tribes: Wyandot, Delaware & Shawnee, A Chronology by Larry Hancks, http://www.wyandow.org/emigrant.htm (5/21/08)
• Moved: to Missouri, 1828.
William married Elizabeth Bishop about 1780.
William next married < > , [Shawnee Woman] about 1789.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Arch Fish (Relationship to Father: Biological, Relationship to Mother: Biological )
ii. Isaac Fish (Relationship to Father: Biological, Relationship to Mother: Biological )
iii. Andrew Fish (Relationship to Father: Biological, Relationship to Mother: Step )
iv. Jesse Fish (Relationship to Father: Biological, Relationship to Mother: Biological )
William next married Polly Rogers about 1798. Polly died 1848 or 1849 in Pottawatomie Mission, Kansas, (United States).
Marriage Notes: One source has m. abt 1800, another has abt 1798. Probably makes a difference in which were her children.
Children from this marriage were:
64 i. Chief Paschal "Pas-Cal-We" Fish 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 (Relationship to Father: Biological, Relationship to Mother: Biological ) (born in 1805 in Shawnee Tribe, (Kansas Territory), (United States) - died in 1894 in Baxter Springs, Cherokee, Kansas, United States)
ii. Charles "Sa-La-Ne-Weh" Fish (Relationship to Father: Biological, Relationship to Mother: Biological ) was born in 1815 in Shawnee Tribe, Kansas Territory (Kansas), (United States) and died on 27 Dec 1866 at age 51.
iii. Andrew Fish (Relationship to Father: Biological, Relationship to Mother: Step )
iv. Arch Fish (Relationship to Father: Biological, Relationship to Mother: Step )
v. Elizabeth "Na-ke-a-se" Fish (Relationship to Father: Biological, Relationship to Mother: Biological )
vi. Isaac Fish (Relationship to Father: Biological, Relationship to Mother: Step )
vii. < > Fish was born in 1802.
viii. John Fish (Relationship to Father: Biological, Relationship to Mother: Biological )
ix. William Fish, Jr. (Relationship to Father: Biological, Relationship to Mother: Biological )
x. Jesse Fish (Relationship to Father: Biological, Relationship to Mother: Biological )
129. Polly Rogers, daughter of Captain Henry Rogers and Chelatha Blackfish, died 1848 or 1849 in Pottawatomie Mission, Kansas, (United States).
Research Notes: More genealogy for Martha Rogers is available, such as http://www.geocities.com/sam_cook_53/grpf2458.html
I am assuming that Martha Rogers (m. abt 1800) and Polly Rogers (m. abt 1798) are the same person. This may NOT be so (see below). A Martha is listed in the 1854 Shawnee census as Paschal Fish's wife (age 40).
See also http://www.shawnee-traditions.com/Names-7.html. That site states that Polly Rogers was 1/2 Shawnee Metis and the granddaughter of Black Fish.
Since Polly Rogers is given in the following source as the wife of Rev. Mackinaw Boachman [see below], it is likely that Polly married (1) William Jackson Fish, then, after Fish died in 1833, (2) Rev. Mackinaw Boachman, who died in May 1848.
From Transactions of the Kansas State Historical Society, 1907-1908, Vol. X, edited by George W. Martin (Topeka, 1908), pp. 401-402:
"His wife was Polly Rogers, daughter of Henry Rogers and his wife, the daughter of Blackfish, chief of the Shawnees. She probably belonged to the small band of Shawnees which settled on the Meramec, near the leadmines, in Missouri, about the beginning of the last century [early 1800's]. Mrs. Boachman died a few weeks before her husband, at the old Pottawatomie mission, in the spring of 1848 or 1849. They had six children: Annie, the wife of the Rev. N. T. Shaler, who died before her parents; Washington, who died in youth; Alexander, whose allotment comprises the present Auburndale addition to the city of Topeka, supposed to be now a resident of Dowagiac, Mich.; Julia Ann, wife of the late Thomas Nesbit Stinson, born on the Shawnee reserve, Johnson county, March 26, 1834; William, who died near Fort Scott in the early '60's' and Martha, the youngest, the late Mrs. John Read, whose allotment adjoined Mrs. Stinson's, near Tecumseh, Shawnee county, Kansas. Some additional matter relating to Mr. Boachman's family will be found in the Kansas Historical Collections, volume 9, pages 170 and 212."
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Mary Cross (12 Apr 2000) on message board (http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.rogers/1099.1112/mb.ashx) cites Richard Pagburn's Indian Blood: Finding Your Native American Ancestor, Vol 1 (Louisvills:Burler Books, 1993) when she writes [with some editing]:
"When Gen. George Rogers Clark attacked the Shawnee town of Piqua (Pickaway) in Aug of 1870, there were members of his family living among them. A nephew Joseph Rogers ran out of the village,, was shot by mistake. 'Silverheels' was among those Shawnees who fled Piqua. He reported to the British that Rogers was missing. Also Henry Rogers (a Shawnee), who had been adopted by Blackfish, but was living in another village. Henry Rogers' halfbreed children included Lewis Rogers, William Rogers, Polly Rogers, Graham Rogers. Macinaw tribe's Beauchemie [Bushman], an adopted Potawatomi, married Shawnee Polly Rogers, daughter of Henry Rogers, son-in-law of Blackfish. Their children included Anne (who married N.T. Shaler), Julia Ann (who married Thomas Nesbit Stinson), Alexander, William, Martha Boshman."
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This is pretty much discredited by all the above sources:
www.wyandot.org/emigrant.htm says she was the daughter of Lewis Rogers. A different Polly? Apparently Fern Long wrote an article on Chief Fish (William Jackson) in 1978 in which she stated that he was raised by the Shawnees in the band of Lewis Rogers whose daughter he married. How does Lewis Rogers fit into the picture? William Jackson was adopted by Chief Black Fish.
And according to Mary Cross (12 Apr 2000), "Lewis Rogers, a white Chief of a band of Shawnees and Delawares on the upper Meramec, appealed to Meriwether Lewis for assistance after being threatened by Osage horse thieves."
Polly married William Jackson "Captain" Fish 84 42 85 about 1798. William was born about 1760 and died Late Oct 1833 about age 73.
Polly next married Rev. Mackinaw Boachman, son of < > Beauchemin and Unknown, after 1833. Mackinaw was born before 1812 in Mackinaw, Michigan, United States and died on 12 May 1848.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Annie Boachman 86
ii. Julia Ann Boachman 86
iii. Alexander Boachman 86
iv. William Boachman 86
v. Martha Boshman 86
130. General Isaac W. Zane, Jr.,14 87 88 son of Isaac Zane and Myeerah, was born in 1777 in <Zanesfield>, Logan Co., (Ohio), (United States), died on 12 May 1850 in Marseilles, Wyandot Co., Ohio, United States at age 73, and was buried in May 1850 in Marseilles Cemetery, Marseilles, Wyandot Co., Ohio, United States.
Birth Notes: Source: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:3194409&id=I0233
Per FamilySearch.org, birth may have been
1786 in Zanesfield, Logan Co., [Ohio], [United States]
Another source has:
b. 1777 Zanesville, Muskingum, Ohio
Death Notes: Source: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:3194409&id=I0233
Another source has 12 May 1849 in Marsailles, Wyandot Co., Ohio
Research Notes:
From Shenandoah Valley Pioneers, pp. 436-437 :
It seems appropriate to mention this family, as brief notices are given the families living along Cedar Creek and the North Mountain during the 18th Century. But we cannot claim the family for these sections exclusively; for we find Isaac Zane in Winchester at one time, dispensing lavish hospitality. He owned several desirable properties, and, as shown elsewhere, was a substantial friend of the old Winchester Academy in its early history. At one time he lived in Stephensburg. He had temporary residence at his Marlboro Iron Works, and spent some time with his friend Maj. Mordecai Bean, while engaged in testing the ores of the North Mountain in a smelter which they started on Bean's large tract. There is some confusion about this name. Some writers fix Isaac Zane's first appearance as one of the first pioneers, and also as Genl. Isaac Zane of the Revolutionary War period; and Col. Isaac Zane one of the Burgesses, 1773; and member of the Virginia Convention, 1775; and member of the first House of Delegates, 1784. The father and son were confounded. Isaac Zane Snior came first. It was in 1767 that he purchased 350 acres of land along the North Mountain from Henry Secrist, adjoining Michael White and Jacob Cackley. He was then a resident of Philadelphia; and it is doubtful if he ever lived in Virginia. Isaac Zane, Jr., obtained from Lewis Stephens in 1771, a large tract of land on Cedar Creek. The language of the deed points to two facts worth notice: "To Isaac Zane Junr. Iron Master, for land on Cedar Creek, includes the land where the Dutch Chapel stands and adjoins John Stickley, Craybill and Henry Piper." This was the tract where he conducted his iron works, and other business. In 1776 he acquired more land near Stephensburg, where he had resided. Part of this tract he sold to Joseph Holmes a merchant in the same village. Subsequent to this period, we find him living near his Marlboro Iron Works, and taking an active part in politics, as shown elsewhere. While a member of the house of Burgesses, he was commissioned Colonel in the Virginia Line. In the new organization, after the Revolutionary War, he was commissioned Brigadier-General of Militia, and was not a Brigadier during the war. He died in his Frederick home in 1795, possessed of great wealth for that period, owning large landed estate (9,000 acres), some of which consisted of many lots lying on South Washington and Stewart Streets, Winchester. He also owned the land where the old Winchester Academy stood. His will, recorded in the old District Court, mentions two sisters, Hanna Pemberton and Sarah Zane, to whom he left the bulk of his estate in Frederick County, with annuity to Isaac Zane McFarlane. He further provided for the gradual emancipation of his twenty-one slaves. The inventory of his personal estate shows he was a merchant, distiller, miller and founder. He was doubtless an educated man. His library contained many rare volumes. These and his valuable furniture naturally found places in many homes after the sale of his effects, which required several days. We cannot follow his name further. The family were prominent in reclaiming the country from the Indians, as already shown in this volume. He was grated several thousand acres of land along the Ohio and Monongahela Rivers, which was inherited by his family. One branch of this family were pioneers of the South Branch Valley. During the Indian Wars, Wm. Zane and his family were carried away as prisoners by the Indians in 1753. One of his sons has been previously mentioned in connection with Ohio settlements.
Genl. Zane lived in his stone mansion--as he termed it in his letters. This was near his iron works and mill, and a short distance North of the site of the present mill of D. S. Brill. Near by was his large warehouse or store, the walls of which were of heavy stone. The ruins of these buildings were to be seen until about 1890. The ruins of the old iron works can be seen at this writing [1909].
• Military Service: Served in War of 1812 under Capt. Benjamin Scogler, Betw 21 Feb and 21 Mar 1813. Source: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:3194409&id=I0233
Isaac married Hannah Dickinson 44 14 47 89 on 13 Apr 1815 in Urbana, Champaign, Ohio, United States. Hannah was born on 25 Nov 1797 in Berks Co., Pennsylvania, United States, died on 14 Nov 1886 in Quindarc Twp, Wyandotte, Kansas, United States at age 88, and was buried in Nov 1886 in Huron Indian Cemetery-Wyandotte National Burial Grounds, Kansas City, Wyandotte, Kansas, United States.
Children from this marriage were:
65 i. Hester Armstrong "Hetty" Zane (born in 1816 in Champaign Co., Ohio, United States - died on 17 Apr 1852, buried in Huron Indian Cemetery-Wyandotte National Burial Grounds, Kansas City, Wyandotte, Kansas, United States)
ii. Catherine Zane was born in 1817.
iii. Noah E. Zane 90 was born on 24 Apr 1818 in Zanesville, Muskingum, (Ohio), (United States), died on 16 Jan 1868 in Wyandotte, Kansas, United States45 at age 49, and was buried in Huron Indian Cemetery-Wyandotte National Burial Grounds, Kansas City, Wyandotte, Kansas, United States.
iv. Sarah McIntyre Zane 44 was born in 1820 in Ohio, United States, died on 17 Aug 187391 at age 53, and was buried in Huron Indian Cemetery-Wyandotte National Burial Grounds, Kansas City, Wyandotte, Kansas, United States.
v. John Wesley Zane was born about 1820.
vi. Ebenezer O. Zane, Sr. 92 was born in 1823 in Ohio, United States, died on 8 May 1902 at age 79, and was buried in Huron Indian Cemetery-Wyandotte National Burial Grounds, Kansas City, Wyandotte, Kansas, United States.
vii. Isaac R. Zane was born on 10 Sep 1826 in Ohio, United States.
viii. James C. Zane was born in 1832 and was buried in Huron Indian Cemetery-Wyandotte National Burial Grounds, Kansas City, Wyandotte, Kansas, United States.
ix. Eliza Burton Zane 90 was born in 1838, died on 11 Jul 1879 at age 41, and was buried in Huron Indian Cemetery-Wyandotte National Burial Grounds, Kansas City, Wyandotte, Kansas, United States.
x. Hannah Zane was born in 1836 in Ohio, United States.
xi. Eli Leslie Zane was born in 1840.
xii. William W. Zane was born in 1842.
131. Hannah Dickinson 44 14 47 89 was born on 25 Nov 1797 in Berks Co., Pennsylvania, United States, died on 14 Nov 1886 in Quindarc Twp, Wyandotte, Kansas, United States at age 88, and was buried in Nov 1886 in Huron Indian Cemetery-Wyandotte National Burial Grounds, Kansas City, Wyandotte, Kansas, United States.
Birth Notes: Source: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:3194409&id=I0358
Transcription of gravestone at www.wyandot.org/burial.htm has b. 1794
Death Notes: Source: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:3194409&id=I0358
Research Notes: From Wyandot Tribal Roll 1867 (http://www.wyandot.org/1867.htm) :
Name/Age in 1855/Male, Female/Circumstances/Residence (comment )
EMONDS, F. Eudora/6/female/Destitute/Kansas
Orphan in 1855, was in the care of her grandmother Hannah Zane, never made choice to become a citizen, wishes her name on tribal list
EMONDS, Theodore P./-/male/destitute/Kansas
Son of Eudora F. Emonds. Eudora F. Emonds maiden name was Eudora Fish, should have been on Orphan list
FISH, Andrew/4/male/destitute/Kansas
Orphan in 1855, but not placed on Orphan list, brother of Eudora Fish in care of his grandmother Hannah Zane
Hannah married General Isaac W. Zane, Jr. 14 87 88 on 13 Apr 1815 in Urbana, Champaign, Ohio, United States. Isaac was born in 1777 in <Zanesfield>, Logan Co., (Ohio), (United States), died on 12 May 1850 in Marseilles, Wyandot Co., Ohio, United States at age 73, and was buried in May 1850 in Marseilles Cemetery, Marseilles, Wyandot Co., Ohio, United States.
132. William Large 93 was born in 1815 in Virginia, United States.94
William married Nancy <Thompson> 53 on 28 Jun 1840 in Carter Co., Kentucky, United States.51 Nancy was born in 1824 in Kentucky, United States.
The child from this marriage was:
66 i. Richard Joseph Large 48 21 49 50 (born on 11 May 1849 in Lawrence Co., Kentucky, United States - buried before 30 May 2005 in Fairview Cemetery, Melrose, Cherokee, Kansas)
133. Nancy <Thompson> 53 was born in 1824 in Kentucky, United States.
Nancy married William Large 93 on 28 Jun 1840 in Carter Co., Kentucky, United States.51 William was born in 1815 in Virginia, United States.94
134. William Davidson .95
William married Mary Elizabeth Faeger.48 95
The child from this marriage was:
67 i. Mary Jane Davidson 21 52 53 54 (born on 11 Mar 1859 in Harrison Co., Missouri, United States - died on 10 May 1937 in Douthat, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States)
135. Mary Elizabeth Faeger .48 95
Mary married William Davidson.95
144. William Matthew Kirk, Sr.,14 96 son of Robert Kirk and <Agnes> <Montgomery>, was born about 1785 in South Carolina, United States and died between 1860 and 1870.
• Census: 1850, Jefferson Co., Illinois, United States.
• Census: 1860, Bourbon Co., Kentucky, United States.
William married Mary Gazaway before 1807. Mary was born in 1789, died in 1835 in <Jefferson Co., Illinois>, United States at age 46, and was buried in 1835 in Kirk Cemetery, Ina, Jefferson, Illinois, United States.
William next married Elizabeth Harvill 14 on 18 Sep 1837 in Jefferson Co., Illinois, United States. Elizabeth was born in 1813 in Hickman Co., Tennessee, United States, died in 1841 in Spring Garden Twp, Jefferson, Illinois, United States at age 28, and was buried in Kirk Cemetery, Ina, Jefferson, Illinois, United States.
Children from this marriage were:
72 i. Richard J. Kirk 14 (born on 4 Mar 1838 in Jefferson Co., Illinois, United States - died on 29 Nov 1872 in Nevada, Vernon, Missouri, United States)
ii. George Kirk 97
iii. Garland Kirk 98 was born about 1840 in Illinois, United States.
iv. Johnson Kirk 99 was born about 1841 in Illinois, United States.
William next married Lois Smith on 27 Oct 1844 in Jefferson Co., Illinois, United States. The marriage ended in divorce in Aug 1847. Lois was born on 29 Jun 1805 in Tennessee, United States.
William next married Winnie < > 100 before 1850. Winnie was born about 1822 in Tennessee, United States, died on 30 Jan 1879 in Barry Co., Missouri, United States about age 57, and was buried in Munsey Cemetery, Barry Co., Missouri, United States.
145. Elizabeth Harvill,14 daughter of George Harvill and Mary Ann < >, was born in 1813 in Hickman Co., Tennessee, United States, died in 1841 in Spring Garden Twp, Jefferson, Illinois, United States at age 28, and was buried in Kirk Cemetery, Ina, Jefferson, Illinois, United States.
Research Notes: Second wife of William Matthew Kirk.
Elizabeth married William Matthew Kirk, Sr. 14 96 on 18 Sep 1837 in Jefferson Co., Illinois, United States. William was born about 1785 in South Carolina, United States and died between 1860 and 1870.
Elizabeth next married A. Henderson.101
146. William Crook 14 was born in 1802 in Tennessee, United States.
William married Susan Simmons.14 Susan was born in 1813 in Tennessee, United States.
The child from this marriage was:
73 i. Martha A. Crook 14 (born about 1841 in Missouri, United States - died in 1883 in Metz, Vernon, Missouri, United States)
147. Susan Simmons 14 was born in 1813 in Tennessee, United States.
Susan married William Crook.14 William was born in 1802 in Tennessee, United States.
148. Jesse Parsons 14 was born in 1807 in Virginia, United States and died after 1870.
Jesse married Phebe Jane < > 14 before 1830 in Ohio, United States. Phebe was born in 1814 in Kentucky, United States and died after 1870.
The child from this marriage was:
74 i. James Densmore Parsons 14 (born on 13 Mar 1849 in <Thornton, Boone, Indiana>, United States - died on 22 Nov 1896, buried in Walker Cemetery, Welch, Craig, Oklahoma, United States)
149. Phebe Jane < > 14 was born in 1814 in Kentucky, United States and died after 1870.
Phebe married Jesse Parsons 14 before 1830 in Ohio, United States. Jesse was born in 1807 in Virginia, United States and died after 1870.
150. Samuel F. White,14 son of Jochim White and Eva Margarethe Lembke, was born in 1809 in Kentucky, United States.
Samuel married Rebecca Jane Lipsey 14 on 10 May 1834 in Perquimans Co., North Carolina, United States. Rebecca was born in 1816 in Kentucky, United States.
The child from this marriage was:
75 i. Nancy Jane White 14 (born on 10 Aug 1839 in Thornton, Boone, Indiana, United States - died on 25 Sep 1919 in Centralia, Craig, Oklahoma, United States)
151. Rebecca Jane Lipsey,14 daughter of John Lipsey and Angelletta Combs, was born in 1816 in Kentucky, United States.
Rebecca married Samuel F. White 14 on 10 May 1834 in Perquimans Co., North Carolina, United States. Samuel was born in 1809 in Kentucky, United States.
152. David Switzer 102 103 104 was born in 1813 in Germany and died after 6 Jul 1860 in Shoul Creek Twp, Newton, Missouri, United States.
Birth Notes: The 1850 census says he was born in Germany. Other sources have Ohio.
Research Notes:
From
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=cathyconn&id=I1264 :
1850 U.S. Census - Ray Co., Missouri
Switzer David 37 M Farmer Germany
Switzer Anna 35 F KY X
Hamilton Amanda J. 14 F MO
Switzer Louisa 6 F MO
Switzer Daniel 12 M MO
Switzer Henry 6 M MO
The John Switzer in the same 1850 census may have been David's brother:
Switzer John 44 M Farmer OH - possessed $2500 of real estate
Switzer Elizabeth 42 F OH
Switzer Samuel C. 20 M Farmer OH
Switzer Matthew 18 M Farmer OH
Switzer Andrew J. 17 M Farmer OH
Switzer 14 M OH
Switzer 12 F OH
Switzer 10 M MO
Switzer John F. 7 M MO
Switzer James R. 5 M MO
Switzer George A. 2 MO
Switzer Marion B. 5 months MO
1860 U.S. Census Newton Co. MO, Shoul Creek Township (close to Ozart, MO):
Switzer, David 45 M Farmer $140 OH
Hannah D 27 F MO
Henry 12 M MO
Milly 5 F MO
Mary 3 F MO
Jane 1 F MO
6 July 1860 - Buffalo Like Township, Chariton County - Robertson Moore, Asst. Marshal:
David Switzer # of slaves: 4 23 F B
4 F M
2 M B
6mths F B
• Occupation: Farmer.
• Residence: 1848, Caldwell, Missouri, United States.
• Census: 1850, Ray, Missouri, United States.
• Census: 1860, Shoul Creek Twp, Newton, Missouri, United States.
David married Anna Campbell on 18 Jun 1848 in Ray Co., Missouri, United States. Anna was born in 1815 in Kentucky, United States.
Marriage Notes: From http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=cathyconn&id=I1265
Marriage Book 1 Ray Co. MO Note:
SWITZER, David of Caldwell Co. MO married Anna Campbell 18 June
1848 page 41
Children from this marriage were:
i. Daniel Switzer 104 was born in 1838 in <Ray>, Missouri, United States.
76 ii. William Henry Switzer 50 63 64 65 (born in Dec 1843 in Ray Co., Missouri, United States - died after 1900 in Hector, Pope, Arkansas, United States)
iii. Louisa Switzer 104 was born in 1844 in <Ray>, Missouri, United States.
153. Anna Campbell was born in 1815 in Kentucky, United States.
Research Notes: Source:
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=cathyconn&id=I1265
"This info came from Judy Keeler, gr-niece of Georgia Augusta
Seitz wife of Daniel Wesley SWITZER. judyklr77@yahoo.com"
Anna married David Switzer 102 103 104 on 18 Jun 1848 in Ray Co., Missouri, United States. David was born in 1813 in Germany and died after 6 Jul 1860 in Shoul Creek Twp, Newton, Missouri, United States.
154. Rev. Clabourn Lafayette Manes,105 106 107 son of George R. Manes and Malinda B. Lawson, was born on 20 Nov 1814 in Rhea, Tennessee, United States, died on 21 Oct 1884 in Snowball, Searcy, Arkansas, United States at age 69, and was buried in Whisenant Cemetery, Snowball, Searcy, Arkansas, United States.
Birth Notes: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=cathyconn&id=I560 has b. 20 Nov 1814 in Hawkins Co.
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=foxbonham&id=P3195770613 has b. same date in Rhea Co.
Death Notes: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=cathyconn&id=I560 has d. 21 Nov. 1884. FindaGrave has 21 Oct 1884.
Burial Notes: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=cathyconn&id=I560
Research Notes: Per Descendants of John Maness, he was a member of "The Peace Society" during the Civil War.
From http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=cathyconn&id=I560:
Blue Eyes and Fair Complected
Black Hair
Clabourn enlisted in Bradley Co. TN. He & Sarah and family
lived in 1) Bradley Co. TN, 2) DeKalb Co. AL, 3) back to Bradley
Co. TN, 4) Seary Co. AR, 5) Washington Co., AR, 6) Scott Co. AR,
7)back to Searcy Co, 8)Cedar Co. MO (this is confirmed by
pension records of Frederick Wm Carsten, 2nd husband of daughter
Neoma/Naomi Manes), 9)back to Searcy Co. AR, 10) Tney Co., MO
11) Boone Co. AR, 12)Cook Co., TX, 13) Madison Co., AR, finally
14) returning to Searcy Co. AR( no dates yet but have other
correlating evidence to support a lot of these moves).
Note: Photo of tombstone in my file. Note: Came to this part of the country on the Trail of Tears. Note:
CLAIBOURN LAFAYETTE4 MANES (GEORGE R.3, SETH2, WILLIAM1) was
born November 20, 1814 in Rhea Co., Tennessee, and died August
21, 1884 in Searcy Co., Arkansas. He married SARAH SAMPLE Abt.
1838 in Bradley Co., Tennessee. She was born July 15, 1824, and
died June 11, 1895 in Searcy Co., Arkansas.
Note: More About CLAIBOURN LAFAYETTE MANES: Note: Burial: Buried in Whisenhant Cemetery, Snowball, Searcy Co., AR Note: Fact 1: Bet. 1849 - 1852, Came to Arkansas in this period
Note:
Fact 2: Owned 80 Acres in Searcy Co., Sec 32, Twp 16N, Rng 17W,
Mar. 20, 1877.
Note:
Fact 3: Owned 40 Acres in Logan Co., Sec 10, Twp 5N, Rng 27W
Sept. 1, 1860. 2 1 3 5
Military: Clabourn served as a Private in Capt. Elliott's Co. Tenn. Vols.,
Chaerokee Dist. from 01 Nov 1837 to May 9, 1838 (Wido3w's
Pension #268 filed Aug 24, 1892) witnessed by E. L. Phelps, J.
W. Rogers of St. Joe, AR.
...an Affidavit of Sarah
Manes dated 17 Aug 1893, she stated "that to the best of her knowledge her husband spelled his first name CLABOURN"
• Enlisted: in Tennessee Volunteers, 1 Nov 1837, Bradley, Tennessee, United States.
• Served: as a Private in Tennessee Volunteers, Cherokee District, 1 Nov 1837-9 May 1838. Captain Elliott's company.
(Widow's Pension #268 filed Aug 24, 1892, witnessed by E. L. Phelps, J.
W. Rogers of St. Joe, AR.)
• Moved: from Tennessee to Arkansas on the Trail of Tears, Betw 1849 and 1852.
• Owned: 40 acres, Sec 10, Twp 5N, Rng 27W, 1 Sep 1860, Logan, Arkansas, United States.
• Owned: 80 acres, Sec 32, Twp 16N, Rng 17W, 20 Mar 1877, Searcy Co., Arkansas, United States.
• Census: Subdivsion 26, Page 237-A, Dwelling 1394, 22 Nov 1850, Bradley, Tennessee, United States.
Clabourn married Sarah Sampley 108 14 109 on 13 Oct 1838 in Chattanooga, Hamilton, Tennessee, United States. Sarah was born on 15 Jul 1824 in Tennessee, United States, died on 11 Jun 1895 in Snowball, Searcy, Arkansas, United States at age 70, and was buried in Whisenant Cemetery, Snowball, Searcy, Arkansas, United States.
Children from this marriage were:
i. John Wesley Manes 110 was born in Nov 1841 in Arkansas, United States.
ii. Neoma Manes 111 was born about 1842.
iii. Malinda Manes 112 was born about 1844 in Bradley, Tennessee, United States.
iv. Harriett Manes 113 was born on 15 Dec 1845 in Alabama, United States.
77 v. Ellender Jane Manes 50 66 67 114 (born in 1848 in Bradley, Tennessee, United States - died in 1879)
vi. Mary Manes 115 was born in 1850 in Bradley, Tennessee, United States and died <1860> at age 10.
vii. George Manes 116 was born in 1852 in Arkansas, United States.
viii. William C. Manes 117 was born in Feb 1854 in Arkansas, United States.
ix. David H. Claiborn Manes 66 118 was born on 9 Jan 1856 in Arkansas, United States and was buried in Whisenant Cemetery, Snowball, Searcy, Arkansas, United States.
x. Lewis Hamilton Manes 119 was born on 27 Jan 1858 in St. Joe, Searcy, Arkansas, United States and died on 5 Dec 1937 in Tahlequah, Cherokee, Oklahoma, United States at age 79.
xi. James Richard Russell Manes 66 120 was born in Jan 1860 in Arkansas, United States.
xii. John William Manes 121 122 was born in Jun 1864, died in 1922 at age 58, and was buried in Park Hill Cemetery, Park Hill, Cherokee, Oklahoma, United States.
xiii. Jesse John Manes 123 was born about 1867 in Arkansas, United States.
155. Sarah Sampley 108 14 109 was born on 15 Jul 1824 in Tennessee, United States, died on 11 Jun 1895 in Snowball, Searcy, Arkansas, United States at age 70, and was buried in Whisenant Cemetery, Snowball, Searcy, Arkansas, United States.
Birth Notes: May have been born on 14 July 1824.
• Census: Subdivsion 26, Page 237-A, Dwelling 1394, 22 Nov 1850, Bradley, Tennessee, United States.
Sarah married Rev. Clabourn Lafayette Manes 105 106 107 on 13 Oct 1838 in Chattanooga, Hamilton, Tennessee, United States. Clabourn was born on 20 Nov 1814 in Rhea, Tennessee, United States, died on 21 Oct 1884 in Snowball, Searcy, Arkansas, United States at age 69, and was buried in Whisenant Cemetery, Snowball, Searcy, Arkansas, United States.
156. Abraham Seitz .14
Research Notes: From US GenWeb http://files.usgwarchives.net/ar/state/history/pub/desmond/swamp22b.txt
This may be "our" Abraham Seitz.
Arkansas State Donation and Swamp Land Sales, L-Z
Following are the patentees listed in the book "Arkansas Swamp Land Sales, 1855 - 1868" compiled by Desmond Walls Allen, ISBN 1-56546-209-2, published by Arkansas Research, Inc., PO Box 303, Conway, AR 72033, 501/470-1120 voice and fax. Price: $25.00 plus shipping. In addition to the patentees' names, the book lists the patent date, patent and application number, land description (section, range, and township), number of acres, ledger citation, and miscellaneous notes.
Seitze, Abraham
Seitze, Francis M.
Abraham married Martha Conelly.14
The child from this marriage was:
78 i. Henry Thomas Seitz 28 72 73 (born on 5 May 1842 in <Saint Joe, Searcy, Arkansas, United States> - died on 5 Sep 1904 in <Snowball, Searcy, Arkansas, United States>)
157. Martha Conelly .14
Martha married Abraham Seitz.14
158. Thomas Plemons,124 14 125 son of John Plemons and Cecelia Hailey, was born about 1799 in Burke Co., North Carolina, United States and died in 1870 in Gilmer Co., Georgia, United States about age 71.
Research Notes: Note from RootsWeb http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:af4124&id=I121:
Entire family except the oldest child John can be found on the 1850 Gilmer Co.census.
Birthdate was given as 1779, which is impossible. This researcher has therefore changed it to 1799. See below.
From http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cenfiles/ga/gilmer/1850/p376b.txt :
Year: 1850 State: Georgia County: Gilmer Sheet No: 377A Reel No: M432-70 Division: Subdivision 33 Page No: 754 Enumerated on: Aug - Dec 7th - 19th, 1850 by: C.H.A. Ellington Transcribed by Cassandra R. Newby for USGenWeb, http://www.rootsweb.com/census/. Copyright: 2003
397 Thomas Plemons 51 M Farmer 1000 [acres] [born in] NC
Margaret Plemons 50 F NC
Cecelea Plemons 20 F NC
Olivid Plemons 18 F NC
Mary Plemons 16 F NC
Frances Plemons 14 F NC
Thomas Plemons 12 M GA
Margaret Plemons 10 F GA
Martha A. Plemons 8 F GA
Sarah K. Plemons 8 F GA
• Census: 1850, Gilmer Co., Georgia, United States. 126 Index:
Plemons Thomas age 51, page 754, sheet 377A, filename p376b.txt, Subdivision 33
• Census: 20 Jul 1860, Gilmer Co., Georgia, United States.
Thomas married Margaret < > 127 in 1820 in Buncombe Co., North Carolina, United States. Margaret was born about 1800 in North Carolina, United States.
Children from this marriage were:
i. John Plemons 128 was born in 1823.
ii. Cecilia Plemons 128 was born in 1830.
iii. Samuel N. Plemons 129 was born in 1831 and died about 1865 about age 34.
iv. Maranda Olived Plemons 130 was born on 13 Feb 1832 in Buncombe Co., North Carolina, United States, died on 28 Aug 1887 in Springtown, Benton, Arkansas, United States at age 55, and was buried in Springtown, Benton, Arkansas, United States.
v. Mary Plemons 128 was born in 1834 in North Carolina, United States.
vi. Frances Plemons 128 was born in 1836 in North Carolina, United States.
vii. Thomas Plemons, [Jr.] 128 was born in 1838 in Gilmer Co., Georgia, United States.
viii. Margaret H. Plemons 128 was born in 1840 in Gilmer Co., Georgia, United States.
79 ix. Martha Ann Plemmons 75 76 (born on 28 Oct 1842 in Gilmer, Georgia, United States - died on 23 Oct 1882 in Snowball, Searcy, Arkansas, United States)
x. Sarah K. Plemons 128 was born on 28 Oct 1842 in Georgia, United States.
159. Margaret < > 127 was born about 1800 in North Carolina, United States.
Margaret married Thomas Plemons 124 14 125 in 1820 in Buncombe Co., North Carolina, United States. Thomas was born about 1799 in Burke Co., North Carolina, United States and died in 1870 in Gilmer Co., Georgia, United States about age 71.
Ninth Generation 256. <Joseph > Jackson .
Research Notes: 2/6/09 this researcher (kjf) argues:
The case against this Joseph Jackson as the father of William Jackson Fish consists of a combination of dates that do not make sense (see below), as William Jackson was adopted by the Shawnee (by Black Fish before 1778) before Joseph Jackson was captured in 1778 or 1782.
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From http://www.geocities.com/sam_cook_53/grpf2459.html :
"... may be the Joseph Jackson captured and adopted by Shawnee at Blue Licks with Daniel Boone. The Battle of Blue Licks was in 1782. No Jackson is listed on the Battle of Blue Licks Monument, Robertson County, Ky
(see http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ky/robertson/military/bluelicks.txt)"
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From The Hunters of Kentucky: A Narrative History of America's First Far West, 1750-1792 by Ted Franklin Belue, p. 232:
'In early February 1778, on the Upper Blue Licks, Daniel Boone--inexplicably, so it seemed to many--surrendered his twenty-six salt boilers to Black Fish's Shawnee war party 120 strong. Over the next five years, most of the hostages were freed or escaped. A few died in captivity. At least three of the captives--Micajah Calloway, Jack Dunn, and Joseph Jackson--"turned Indian."
'...Joseph Jackson, a salt-boiler-turned-Shawnee, returned to Kentucky in 1800 to "make a good citizen," he told Lyman Draper, who met him in 1844, noting that in appearance and mannerisms, Jackson was "Indian in every respect." In the end, though, poor Jackson, unhappily married, melancholy, and unable to reconcile his past, hanged himself. Jackson was a haunted man: In 1782 he had fought the Americans at Blue Licks; he 1790 he fought Col. Josiah Harmar's army; in 1791 he fought Gen. Arthur St. Clair; in 1794 he fought Gen. Anthony Wayne at Fallen Timbers. Perhaps what is most remarkable is that Joseph Jackson could have lived in Kentucky after his Shawnee life without fearing a noose from his neighbors.'
From interview with Patrick Scott of Bourbon County, Kentucky quoted in http://www.shawhan.com/families/scottw.rtf :
" Joseph Jackson: [Addenda, page 17.] Old Jackson, at Lee's Lick, in the lower end of this county [Bourbon County] was on the British side in the Blue Lick Battle. (Joe Jackson showed me the place, at the Lower Blue Licks where he was caught by the Indians. He was with them twenty or thirty years, till after the war. He married, late in life, a young woman. They did not always agree; and this spring of 1844 Jackson went and hung himself.)"
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The chronology of Joseph is thus (supporting the unlikelihood of the above Joseph Jackson as William Jackson Fish's father):
About 1760 or later William Jackson Fish was born
Before 1778 William adopted by Black Fish (as a small boy)
1778 Joseph Jackson captured by Shawnee
About 1780 William returned to white society
About 1780 William married Elizabeth Bishop
1782 Joseph fought Americans at Blue Licks
Before 1788 William returned to Shawnee
1788 William raided Ohio Valley with Shawnee
About 1789 William married a Shawnee woman
1790 Joseph fought Harmar's army
1791 Joseph fought Gen. St. Clair
1794 Joseph fought Gen. Wayne
1798 William married Polly Rogers (granddaughter of Black Fish)
1800 Joseph returned to Kentucky
After 1800 Joseph married a young wife in Kentucky
1828 William moved to Missouri
1831 Joseph agreed to building of a mission school
1833 William Jackson Fish died
1844 Lyman Draper met Joseph Jackson
After 1844 Joseph Jackson hanged himself
Could the Blue Licks Joseph Jackson have been a brother of William Jackson "Captain" Fish? If he was close in age to William, he would have been 17 or 19 when captured by the Shawnee.
<Joseph married < > , [Shawnee Woman].
The child from this marriage was:
128 i. William Jackson "Captain" Fish 84 42 85 (Relationship to Father: Biological, Relationship to Mother: Biological ) (born about 1760 - died Late Oct 1833)
257. < > [Shawnee Woman] .
Research Notes: http://familytrees.genopro.com/beltster/Marshall/default.htm?page=BigTurtleClanOfWyandotts-LeanderAkaLeadingTurtle-ind156834.htm says that William Jackson's parents were Joseph Jackson and a Shawnee woman. Source of information is unknown.
< married <Joseph > Jackson.
258. Captain Henry Rogers 131 132 133 died about 1803.
Death Notes: http://familytrees.genopro.com/beltster/Marshall/default.htm?page=BigTurtleClanOfWyandotts-LeanderAkaLeadingTurtle-ind156834.htm
Research Notes: Adopted by Black Fish (Shawnee)
From http://www.geocities.com/sam_cook_53/grpf2433.html?200821 -
Adopted by Black Fish and Watmeme (also father- and mother-in-law via Henry's wife Chelatha).
From Mary Cross (12 Apr 2000) on message board (http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.rogers/1099.1112/mb.ashx) cites Richard Pagburn's Indian Blood: Finding Your Native American Ancestor, Vol 1 (Louisvills:Burler Books, 1993) when she writes:
"When Gen. George Rogers Clark attacked the Shawnee town of Piqua (Pickaway) in Aug of 1870, there were members of his family living among them. A nephew Joseph Rogers ran out of the village,, was shot by mistake. 'Silverheels' was among those Shawnees who fled Piqua. He reported to the British that Rogers was missing. Also Henry Rogers (a Shawnee), who had been adopted by Blackfish, but was living in another village. Henry Rogers' halfbreed children included Lewis Rogers, William Rogers, Polly Rogers, Graham Rogers."
Henry married Chelatha Blackfish. Chelatha was born about 1761.
Children from this marriage were:
129 i. Polly Rogers (died 1848 or 1849 in Pottawatomie Mission, Kansas, (United States))
ii. Lewis Rogers 86
iii. William Rogers 86
iv. Graham Rogers 86
259. Chelatha Blackfish, daughter of Chief Black Fish and Watmeme, was born about 1761.
Research Notes: Source: http://www.geocities.com/sam_cook_53/grpf2433.html?200821
Chelatha married Captain Henry Rogers.131 132 133 Henry died about 1803.
260. Isaac Zane,14 88 134 135 son of William Andrew Zane and Nancy Ann Nolan, was born on 26 Nov 1753 in Moorefield, Hardy, (West) Virginia, (United States) and died on 6 May 1816 in Zanesville, Muskingum, Ohio, United States at age 62.
Birth Notes: Per www.wyandot.org/emigrant.htm (Larry Hancks), he was born in Berkley County, Virginia.
According to familysearch.org, Moorefield, Hardy, [West] Virginia.
Research Notes: Second son of William and Nancy Ann Nolan Zane.
From Shenandoah Valley Pioneers, pp. 436-437 :
It seems appropriate to mention this family, as brief notices are given the families living along Cedar Creek and the North Mountain during the 18th Century. But we cannot claim the family for these sections exclusively; for we find Isaac Zane in Winchester at one time, dispensing lavish hospitality. He owned several desirable properties, and, as shown elsewhere, was a substantial friend of the old Winchester Academy in its early history. At one time he lived in Stephensburg. He had temporary residence at his Marlboro Iron Works, and spent some time with his friend Maj. Mordecai Bean, while engaged in testing the ores of the North Mountain in a smelter which they started on Bean's large tract. There is some confusion about this name. Some writers fix Isaac Zane's first appearance as one of the first pioneers, and also as Genl. Isaac Zane of the Revolutionary War period; and Col. Isaac Zane one of the Burgesses, 1773; and member of the Virginia Convention, 1775; and member of the first House of Delegates, 1784. The father and son were confounded. Isaac Zane Snior came first. It was in 1767 that he purchased 350 acres of land along the North Mountain from Henry Secrist, adjoining Michael White and Jacob Cackley. He was then a resident of Philadelphia; and it is doubtful if he ever lived in Virginia.
• Purchased: 350 acres along the North Mountain from Henry Secrist, 1767. adjoining Michael White and Jacob Cackley. He was then a resident of Philadelphia; and it is doubtful if he ever lived in Virginia.
Isaac married Myeerah 14 in 1776 in Wheeling, Ohio, (West) Virginia, (United States). Myeerah was born about 1757 in Solomontown, Northwest Territory, <(Ohio)>, (United States) and died in Feb 1816 in Zanesville, Muskingum, Ohio, United States about age 59.
Children from this marriage were:
130 i. General Isaac W. Zane, Jr. 14 87 88 (born in 1777 in <Zanesfield>, Logan Co., (Ohio), (United States) - died on 12 May 1850 in Marseilles, Wyandot Co., Ohio, United States)
ii. Hannah Zane 136
iii. Sarah Zane 136
261. Myeerah,14 daughter of Chief Tarhe and Ronyouquaines La Durante, was born about 1757 in Solomontown, Northwest Territory, <(Ohio)>, (United States) and died in Feb 1816 in Zanesville, Muskingum, Ohio, United States about age 59.
Birth Notes: Per FamilySearch.org, birthplace may have been Zanesville, Ohio.
Myeerah married Isaac Zane 14 88 134 135 in 1776 in Wheeling, Ohio, (West) Virginia, (United States). Isaac was born on 26 Nov 1753 in Moorefield, Hardy, (West) Virginia, (United States) and died on 6 May 1816 in Zanesville, Muskingum, Ohio, United States at age 62.
288. Robert Kirk,14 137 son of James Kirk and Unknown, was born about 1756 in <Ballymoney>, County Antrim, North Ireland and died before 22 Mar 1843 in <Camden District>, Lancaster Co., South Carolina, United States.
Birth Notes: May have been born about 1764.
Research Notes: I have found only marginal evidence for James Kirk as Robert Kirk's father, and even less evidence for Mary Agnes Edmiston as his mother. If Robert's father was James Kirk, the question is which one? There were two men named James Kirk, both from Ireland, who settled in Virginia around the same time. These two men gave one or more of their sons the same names. One James Kirk immigrated to Virginia in 1773. The other may have immigrated as early as 1749 (a land transaction, followed by mention of his name is other legal contexts). Since Robert (and his brothers) was born in Northern Ireland about 1756, it appears most likely that his father (if named James Kirk) was the one who immigrated to Virginia in 1773.
He could have been a different James Kirk altogether.
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From Loudene Tollar 4 Sep 2009 - http://genforum.com/kirk/messages/3938.html
The South Carolina Archives have land plat and other records for a Robert Kirk and a Robert James Kirk from the last 1700s to the 1830s in Camden District, Lancaster County. Robert James Kirk record mentioned wife Eleanor in settling his estate.
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From http://wespatterson.com/forum/Black/2004003/Black_2004003.pdf :
Lancaster County, SC Court Records involving BLACKs
Source: Lancaster County, South Carolina Deed Abstracts 1787-1811 by
Brent H. Holcomb, C.A.L.S., 1981
154/F/pp. 221-222: FRANKEY BLACK of Lancaster County for $40 to ALEXANDER BLACK, 30 acres, part of the plantation on which Frankey Black now lives...23 Feb. 1805 FRANKEY BLACK ( ) (Seal), Wit. Robert Kirk, Agnes Kirk.
177/G/pp. 89-90: ALEXANDER BLACK of Lancaster Dist. for $200 to James Purdy of Lancaster Ville, merchant, tract on Hannah's Creek of Gill's Creek, adj. to Adam Carnahan, Richard Cousart, Edmund Hull, ANANIAS BLACK, John Barkley, Robert Kirk, 150 acres granted to ANANIAS BLACK, and conveyed to FRANKEY BLACK, his wife, by will and from her to ALEXANDER BLACK, also a tract adj. to it, 30 acres, 4 Oct. 1807. ALEXANDER BLACK (LS) Wit. William Ross, John Richardson. Proved by William Ross, 11 Feb. 1807 before Jno. Simpson, J.Q. ISABELLA BLACK, wife of ALEXANDER BLACK, relinquished dower, 11 Oct 1807, before W. Ross, Q.U.
177/G/pp. 93-94: FANNY BLACK of Lancaster Dist., for $50 to Annecus [Ananias?] Neely of same, land on the N side Hannahs Creek, whereon I now live, 60 acres, part of 100 acres granted to ANANIAS BLACK 29 Sept 1772 adj. Robert Kirk, Edmund Hull, James Craig, Jas, Purdy...25 Jan. 1808. FANNY BLACK (X) (Seal) Wit. James McAteer, John Neely (4). Proved by John Neely, 25 Feb 1808, before Jno. Simpson, J.Q.
• Immigrated: from (Northern) Ireland, 1772, Charles' Town (Charleston), South Carolina, (United States). 138 John Kirk and his brothers [Robert and Matthew] came to Charles' Town Charleston) South Carolina, probably with Protestant settlers brought by Rev. Wm. Martin on five ships. They settled near the current town of Lancaster, SC.
It is told that the ship left Larne, Ireland in August, but the passengers on John's ship, possibly the "Lord Dunluce" or the "James and Mary", were not allowed to leave the ship until December because of a smallpox outbreak while in transit.
There is a record of a land grant to John Kirk from the South Carolina Colonial Council in Charles' Town. He was the only one of the brothers old enough to own land.
• Census: 1790, Lancaster Co., South Carolina, United States. 139 Robert Kirk
• Census: 1800, Lancaster Co., South Carolina, United States. Robert Kirk
1 - Male age 26-45
1 - Female age 26-45
2 - Male age 10-16
2 - Female age 0-10
• Census: 1810, Lancaster Co., South Carolina, United States.
• Census: 1830, Lancaster Co., South Carolina, United States. 140 The census index shows three men named Robert Kirk.
Robert married <Agnes> <Montgomery> 14 about 1783 in (Lancaster Co.), South Carolina, United States. <Agnes> was born about 1765 and died before 1840 in Lancaster Co., South Carolina, United States.
The child from this marriage was:
144 i. William Matthew Kirk, Sr. 14 96 (born about 1785 in South Carolina, United States - died Betw 1860 and 1870)
289. <Agnes> <Montgomery> 14 was born about 1765 and died before 1840 in Lancaster Co., South Carolina, United States.
Research Notes: The 1830 U.S. Census lists 9 men named Montgomery in Lancaster County, South Carolina. (Alexander, James, John, Nincon, Robert D., William, Wylie).
<Agnes> married Robert Kirk 14 137 about 1783 in (Lancaster Co.), South Carolina, United States. Robert was born about 1756 in <Ballymoney>, County Antrim, North Ireland and died before 22 Mar 1843 in <Camden District>, Lancaster Co., South Carolina, United States.
290. George Harvill 141 died in 1834 in Hickman Co., Tennessee, United States and was buried in <Harvill Cemetery, Hickman, Tennessee>, United States.
Burial Notes: Have not yet found any evidence of his gravesite. kjf
George married Mary Ann < >.142 Mary died before 19 Jun 1856.
The child from this marriage was:
145 i. Elizabeth Harvill 14 (born in 1813 in Hickman Co., Tennessee, United States - died in 1841 in Spring Garden Twp, Jefferson, Illinois, United States)
291. Mary Ann < > 142 died before 19 Jun 1856.
Mary married George Harvill.141 George died in 1834 in Hickman Co., Tennessee, United States and was buried in <Harvill Cemetery, Hickman, Tennessee>, United States.
300. Jochim White 14 was born about 1789 in Germany.
Jochim married Eva Margarethe Lembke.14 Eva was born about 1793 in Schwerin, Mecklenburg, Germany.
The child from this marriage was:
150 i. Samuel F. White 14 (born in 1809 in Kentucky, United States)
301. Eva Margarethe Lembke 14 was born about 1793 in Schwerin, Mecklenburg, Germany.
Eva married Jochim White.14 Jochim was born about 1789 in Germany.
302. John Lipsey 14 was born about 1785 in Virginia, United States and died about 1840 in Wayne Co., Kentucky, United States about age 55.
John married Angelletta Combs 14 on 14 Jun 1804 in Lincoln Co., Kentucky, United States. Angelletta was born about 1785 in Virginia, United States, died in 1850 in Hensley Twp, Johnson, Indiana, United States about age 65, and was buried in Hensley Twp, Johnson, Indiana, United States.
The child from this marriage was:
151 i. Rebecca Jane Lipsey 14 (born in 1816 in Kentucky, United States)
303. Angelletta Combs 14 was born about 1785 in Virginia, United States, died in 1850 in Hensley Twp, Johnson, Indiana, United States about age 65, and was buried in Hensley Twp, Johnson, Indiana, United States.
Angelletta married John Lipsey 14 on 14 Jun 1804 in Lincoln Co., Kentucky, United States. John was born about 1785 in Virginia, United States and died about 1840 in Wayne Co., Kentucky, United States about age 55.
308. George R. Manes,143 144 145 son of Rev. Seth I. Manes and Susan Fields, was born about 1785 in Moore Co., North Carolina, (United States) and died about 1852 in Searcy Co., Arkansas, United States about age 67.
Research Notes: Source:
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=cathyconn&id=I4177
From that source:
State of Tennessee granted land (40 acres) to George on 15 Oct 1841. Bradley Co. second range west of the basis line first township, 36 section, being the south east corner of the south east quarter of said section.
1850 Census - Bradley Co. Tn
1860 Census - Searcy Co. Ar--Tomahawk Twp (Malinda with son-in-law, J.C. McNair) 2
• Religion: Methodist.
• Occupation: Farmer.
• Census: 1830, Rhea, Tennessee, United States.
• Census: 1850, Bradley, Tennessee, United States.
• Granted: 40 acres by State of Tennessee, 15 Oct 1851, Bradley, Tennessee, United States. Second range west of the basis line first township, 36 section, being the south east corner of the south east quarter of said section.
• Moved: from Tennessee to Searcy Co., Arkansas, Abt 1851.
• Census: 1860, Tomahawk Twp, Searcy, Arkansas, United States.
George married Malinda B. Lawson 146 147 in 1808 in Tennessee, United States. Malinda was born about 1787 in Rhea, Tennessee, (United States) and died <May> 1864 in Searcy Co., Arkansas, United States about age 77.
Children from this marriage were:
154 i. Rev. Clabourn Lafayette Manes 105 106 107 (born on 20 Nov 1814 in Rhea, Tennessee, United States - died on 21 Oct 1884 in Snowball, Searcy, Arkansas, United States)
ii. Jacob Larkin Manes 148 149 was born in 1798 in (Bradley), Tennessee, United States and died in Mar 1850 in Snowball, Searcy, Arkansas, United States at age 52.
iii. Pleasant Reynolds Manes 150 151 was born in 1811 in (Bradley), Tennessee, United States and died in Jun 1869 in Fair Grove, Greene, Missouri, United States at age 58.
iv. Larkin Harry Manes 152 was born about 1812 in <(Bradley)>, Tennessee, United States and died after 1860.
v. Allison W. Manes 153 154 was born in 1814 in <(Bradley)>, Tennessee, United States and died in 1863 at age 49.
vi. William L. Manes 155 156 was born in 1822 in Rhea, Tennessee, United States and died in 1885 in Fulton, Arkansas, United States at age 63.
vii. George S. Manes 157 was born about 1831 in Tennessee, United States.
viii. Harriet Manes 158 159 was born on 24 Aug 1832 in Rhea, Tennessee, United States and died on 5 Jun 1907 in St. Joe, Searcy, Arkansas, United States at age 74.
ix. John Wesley Manes 160 was born on 15 Oct 1835 in (Bradley), Tennessee, United States and died on 2 Nov 1913 in Nevada, Vernon, Missouri, United States at age 78.
x. Carter Manes 161
xi. Elizabeth Manes 162
xii. Nancy Manes 163
xiii. Reuth Manes 164
xiv. Robert Manes 165
309. Malinda B. Lawson,146 147 daughter of Thomas Lawson and Unknown, was born about 1787 in Rhea, Tennessee, (United States) and died <May> 1864 in Searcy Co., Arkansas, United States about age 77.
Research Notes: Source:
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=cathyconn&id=I4178
"I've seen her name as DAWSON and LAWSON"
• Residence: 1860, Tomahawk Twp, Searcy, Arkansas, United States.
Malinda married George R. Manes 143 144 145 in 1808 in Tennessee, United States. George was born about 1785 in Moore Co., North Carolina, (United States) and died about 1852 in Searcy Co., Arkansas, United States about age 67.
316. John Plemons,166 167 168 son of John Plemons and Elizabeth Jane Prichard, was born in 1772 in Virginia, (United States) and died in 1865 in Gilmer Co., Georgia, United States at age 93.
Birth Notes: May have been born in North Carolina.
Research Notes: From RootsWeb http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:af4124&id=I133 :
"John and Cecilia moved from N.C. to Gilmer Co. GA about 1837. In April 1795 John Plemons and his wife were made administrators of the estate of William Hailey,"deceased." In Oct. of 1795 Thomas Plemons was appointed guardian of Robert Hailey, minor son of William Hailey.Thomas is probably the brother of John and Robert is probably the brother of Cealy. This was in Burk County, N.C."
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The "5-Branches" newsletter from December 15, 2004, contains an article called "Migration of the Plemons/Plemmons Family" by Janet Webb. The article, though a bit difficult to follow, may indicate that Thomas Plemin, who lived in Rowan Co., North Carolina in the late 1750's, may have been the father of 3 sons named Thomas, Peter and John Plemons. Thomas, Peter and John lived in the Morganton District of Burke County, NC in 1790, at the same time as men named Hailey. Apparently, John was the father of this John Plemons, who married Cecelia Hailey.
Rootsweb http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1873052&id=I104801948 appears to bear this out.
• Moved: from North Carolina to Gilmer County, Georgia, Abt 1839.
• Census: 20 Jul 1860, Gilmer Co., Georgia, United States.
• x:
John married Cecelia Hailey 169 before 1793. Cecelia was born about 1772 in Virginia, (United States) and died on 28 Sep 1851 in Gilmer Co., Georgia, United States about age 79.
Children from this marriage were:
i. James Plemons 14 was born in 1792 in Burke Co., North Carolina, United States and died in 1849 at age 57.
ii. John Plemons, Jr. 170 171 was born in 1793 in <Burke Co., North Carolina>, United States and died before 1850 in Gilmer Co., Georgia, United States.
iii. Ann Plemons 172 was born about 1793 in Burke Co., North Carolina, United States and died in 1861 about age 68.
iv. Mary Plemons 173 was born about 1795 in Burke Co., North Carolina, (United States) and died in 1862 about age 67.
v. Nancy Plemons 174 was born about 1797 in Burke Co., North Carolina, United States and died in 1860 about age 63.
158 vi. Thomas Plemons 124 14 125 (born about 1799 in Burke Co., North Carolina, United States - died in 1870 in Gilmer Co., Georgia, United States)
vii. Henry C. Plemons 175 was born about 1802 in Burke Co., North Carolina, (United States) and died in 1892 about age 90.
viii. Samuel Jackson Plemons 176 177 178 was born about 1810 in <Burke Co., North Carolina>, United States and died after 1880 in <Gilmer Co.>, Georgia, United States.
ix. William H. Plemons 179 180 181 was born on 25 Jun 1816 in <Burke Co., North Carolina>, United States, died on 17 Nov 1874 in Mountaintown, Gilmer, Georgia, United States at age 58, and was buried in Zion Hill Baptist Church Cemetery, Mountaintown, Gilmer, Georgia, United States.
317. Cecelia Hailey,169 daughter of <William> Hailey and Unknown, was born about 1772 in Virginia, (United States) and died on 28 Sep 1851 in Gilmer Co., Georgia, United States about age 79.
Cecelia married John Plemons 166 167 182 before 1793. John was born in 1772 in Virginia, (United States) and died in 1865 in Gilmer Co., Georgia, United States at age 93.
Tenth Generation 518. Chief Black Fish 132 was born in 1725 and died on 12 Oct 1779 in Chillicothe, Shawnee Territory (Ohio), (United States) at age 54.
Research Notes: Shawnee, war chief of the Chillicothe division of the Shawnee tribe.
From Wikipedia - Chief Blackfish :
Blackfish (c. 1729 -1779 ), known in his native tongue as Cot-ta-wa-ma-go or Mkah-day-way-may-qua, was a Native American leader, war chief of the Chillicothe division of the Shawnee tribe. Little is known about him, since he only appears in written historical records during the last three years of his life, primarily because of his interactions with the famous American frontiersmen Daniel Boone and Simon Kenton .
When the Shawnees were defeated by Virginia in Dunmore's War in 1774, the resulting peace treaty made the Ohio River the boundary between western Virginia (what is now Kentucky and West Virginia ) and American Indian lands in the Ohio Country . Although this treaty was agreed to by Shawnee leaders such as Cornstalk , Blackfish and a number of other leaders refused to acknowledge the loss of their traditional hunting grounds in Kentucky.
Violence along the border escalated with the outbreak of the American Revolutionary War in 1775. As a result, the Chillicothe Shawnees moved their town on the Scioto River further west to the Little Miami River , near what is now Xenia, Ohio . Encouraged and supplied by British officials in Detroit , Blackfish and others launched raids against American settlers in Kentucky, hoping to drive them out of the region. In revenge for the murder of Cornstalk by American militiamen in November 1777, Blackfish set out on an unexpected winter raid in Kentucky, capturing American frontiersman Daniel Boone and a number of others on the Licking River on February 7 , 1778 . Boone, respected by the Shawnees for his extraordinary hunting skills, was taken back to Chillicothe and adopted into the tribe. The traditional tale is that Boone was adopted by Blackfish himself, although historian John Sugden suggests that Boone was probably adopted by another family.
Boone escaped in June 1778 when he learned that Blackfish was launching a siege of the Kentucky settlement of Boonesborough , which commenced in September of that year. The siege of Boonesborough was unsuccessful, and the Kentuckians, led by Colonel John Bowman , counterattacked Chillicothe the following spring. This raid was also unsuccessful, but Blackfish was shot in the leg, a wound which became infected and was eventually fatal.
Black married Watmeme by 1745. Watmeme was born in 1730 and died in 1797 in Missouri, (United States) at age 67.
Children from this marriage were:
128 i. William Jackson "Captain" Fish 84 42 85 (Relationship to Father: Adopted, Relationship to Mother: Adopted ) (born about 1760 - died Late Oct 1833)
ii. Chinwa Blackfish was born about 1745.
iii. Young Blackfish was born in 1750 and died after 1794.
iv. Pimegeezhigoqua Blackfish was born about 1759.
v. Black Fish , Jr. was born about 1760.
259 vi. Chelatha Blackfish (born about 1761)
vii. Lemateshe Blackfish was born in 1765 and died in 1800 at age 35.
viii. Stephen "Big Fish" Ruddell was born in 1768 and died after 1807.
519. Watmeme was born in 1730 and died in 1797 in Missouri, (United States) at age 67.
Research Notes: Shawnee
Source: http://www.geocities.com/sam_cook_53/grpf2433.html?200821 -
WATMEME:
Notes:
Blackfish, Watmeme- born about 1730-died about 1797 MO
- wife by 1745 of Black Fish/25,
mother of Chinwa/45,
Young Black Fish/50,
Parlie/55,
Pimegeezhigoqua/59,
Black Fish Jr/60,
Chelatha/61,
Lematashe/65,
adopted mother & mother in law of Capt. Joseph Dusquene/50-Chippewa Metis,
Henry Rogers/55-white &
Lewis Rogers/50-white,
adopted mother of William Jackson/60-white &
Stephen Ruddell/68-white,
moved to MO about 1779 with adopted son Stephen Ruddell aka Big Fish
Watmeme married Chief Black Fish 132 by 1745. Black was born in 1725 and died on 12 Oct 1779 in Chillicothe, Shawnee Territory (Ohio), (United States) at age 54.
520. William Andrew Zane,183 son of Nathaniel Zane and Grace Rakestraw, was born on 26 Nov 1712 in Newton, Gloucester, New Jersey, (United States) and died in 1799 in Wheeling, Ohio, (West) Virginia, (United States) at age 87.
Death Notes: May have died in 1779.
Research Notes: William was a direct ancestor of Zane Grey (1872-1939) through his son Ebenezer Zane.
William married Nancy Ann Nolan in 1744 in <Ohio or Virginia>. Nancy was born about 1715 in <Newton, Gloucester, New Jersey, (United States)>.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Ebenezer Zane, Col. 184 185 was born on 7 Oct 1747 in Moorefield, (Hardy), (West) Virginia, (United States), died on 19 Nov 1811 in Wheeling, Ohio, (West) Virginia, (United States) at age 64, and was buried in Walnut Grove Cemetery, Martins Ferry, Belmont, Ohio, United States.
260 ii. Isaac Zane 14 88 134 135 (born on 26 Nov 1753 in Moorefield, Hardy, (West) Virginia, (United States) - died on 6 May 1816 in Zanesville, Muskingum, Ohio, United States)
521. Nancy Ann Nolan was born about 1715 in <Newton, Gloucester, New Jersey, (United States)>.
Research Notes: Source: http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/AF/individual_record.asp?recid=13549324&lds=0&frompage=99
Nancy married William Andrew Zane 183 in 1744 in <Ohio or Virginia>. William was born on 26 Nov 1712 in Newton, Gloucester, New Jersey, (United States) and died in 1799 in Wheeling, Ohio, (West) Virginia, (United States) at age 87.
522. ChiefTarhe 14 186 187 was born in 1742 in [near Detroit], (Michigan), (United States), died on 28 Aug 1816 in Cranetown near Upper Sandusky, (Wyandot), Ohio, United States at age 74, and was buried in Nov 1816 in (Wyandot Co.), Ohio, United States.
Research Notes: From http://www.wyandot.org/sachem.htm :
TARHE GRAND SACHEM
C.A. Buser
When dealing with a history largely oral there comes the moment when one must choose between fancy and probability. In the case of Tarhe, if one is to accept the eye-witness accounts of his contemporaries as truth, there is little need for fiction.
During the period 1789-1818 many famous Indians lived in the Old Northwest Territory. Such men as Tecumseh, Little Turtle, Captain Pipe, Black Hoof, Buckongehelas, Walk-in-the-Water and Round Head helped to shape the history of the region. But none was more distinguished than Tarhe, Grand Sachem of the Wyandot Nation.
There are literally dozens of names for the tribe known generally as Wyandot (its very tribal identity is debated by student osf Indian history); and the great chief himself is variously referred to as Tarhee, Tarkee, Takee, the Crane or - by the French - as Le Grue, Le Chef Grue, or Monsieur Grue.
Further complicating an already invfolved story, a well known and no doubt well-meaning novelist contributed his own romanticized version of tribal history and his version became widely accepted. Zane Grey, in his book Betty Zane, told of a young boy who was captured and raised by Indians and subsequently married the chief's daughter. Much of the story was true.
The boy Mr. Grey wrote about was Isaac Zane, a member of the famous Zane family of Wheeling that helped lay out the National road and for whom Zanesville, Ohio is named. Since Zane Grey himself was related to that family, it all bore the stamp of truth.
Later generations of Wyandots came to accept the story in its entirety. After all, everyone would love to have an Indian Princess as an ancestor, and who could ask for a better princess than Myeerah, daughter of the famous Tarhe, Grand Sachem of the Wyandots?
Grey wrote that Tarhe was born in the beautiful Muskoka Lake region of Ontario, married a beautiful French captive, fathered a beautiful daughter and named her Myeerah, the name carried by his own mother and grand-mother.
Actually Tarhe was born very near Detroit, the son of a woman of the Porcupine Clan. The name Myeerah, belonged to one of the Turtle clans. His grandmother may have been named Myeerah. It is certain that his mother was not. (It does appear to be true that the young girl, Myeerah, was beautiful)
Tarhe's own name is intriguing. The English meaning is unknown. The name is not believed to be a clan property name and it apparently died with the man. It may have been given to him because of some particular deed or attribute of the man or boy. Old-time Wyandots said the name meant "at him" or "at the tree", or was perhaps the personification of "the tree". Tarhe's great height lends credence tot the latter theory.; He was six feet four inches tall in an era when few men reached six feet.
The name is now pronounce Tar-hee, but the earlier writers indicated that the accent was on the second syllable. (Pronounced more correctly, Tar-Hay)
Little is known of Tarhe's early years. It is thought he served in all of his nation's battles, possibly even the Braddock fight. (He would then have been no more thatn thirteen or fourteen years of age.) Some references are made to his going on war parties against the Cherokees as a young man. The first explicit mention of Tarhe as a warrior is in the account of Dunmore's war. Tarhe was conspicuous at the Battle of Point Pleasant where he served under the Wyandot Chief, Chiyawee, and under the great Shawnee Chief, Cornstalk.
The Shawnee, Puckenskinwa, father of Tecumseh, was killed at this battle on the Kanwha. Forty years later Tarhe was in the immediate vicinity during the Battle of the thames wehre Tecumseh himself was killed. The careers of Tarhe and Tecumseh ran somewhat parallel but there was often serious disagreement between the two men.
The Wyandots were prominent in the defeat of Braddock in 1755. A Huron/Wendat from Lorette, near Quebec, commanded all of the Indians in the battle. Although there was French support, not enough has been made of the fact that it was in truth an Indian victory.
If a youthful Tarhe actually did fight against Braddock it makes for additional conjecture. In that same battle the contingent of Ottawa warriors was led by Chief Pontiac. Since Tarhe supproted Pontiac at Detroit eight years later it would be interesting to know if the older man noticed the young Wyandot at that early date.
Ponticac depended heavily on the Wyandots in 1763. The chieftain whom Parkman refers to as "Takee" was almost certainly Tarhe. Another Wyandots, Teata, went along (with some reluctance), but his group of Wyandots never exhibited the enthusiasm of Tarhe's followers.
The victories at the Battle of Bloody Bridge, at Fort Sandusky, at Presque Isle and elsewhere could hardly have been won without the Wyandots' contribution. Parkman was surely correct when he sttaed that the Wyandots were the premier warriors of the Midwest.
By 1763, when barely twenty years of age, Tarhe was regarded as a leading warrior, but he may not have become even a minor chief at that point.
The war chief carried the title of Ron-Tun-Dee, or Warpole. There is no record of Tarhe's ever having become Ron-Tun-Dee. Although regarded as a very brave man, Tarhe was not considered a truly great warrior by his own tribe. The Wyandots loved and respected him but they believed Round Head, Zhaus-Sho-Toh, Khun, Slitlog and others to be superior warriors. In a nation of warriors excellence was commonplace.
The Sachem was the titular head of the Wyandot nation and held the title of Sastaretsi. There was no royal family as such, among the Wyandots, but since the title of Sastaretsi was in actual practice often inherited, there developed something of a hereditary line of chiefs. If Sastaretsi died without a suitable heir, the tribal council selected a successor.
Such an occasion arose in 1788 when Too-Dah-Reh-Zhooh died. he was better known by his many other names, such as Half-King, Pomoacan, Dunquad, Daunghuat and Petawontakas. (Care should be taken to avoid confusion with the Oneida Half-King and thee Seneca Half-King and with another Wyandot of lesser stature named Dunquad who was chief some years later.)
Tarhe was chosen to be the successor of Too-Doh-Reh-Zhooh. There is no record of any other member of the Porcupine Clan having become Sastaretsi up until that time. Sachems had always come from the Deer, Bear and Turtle clans. But Tarhe, a Porcupine, because of his unique abilities was selected by general concensus to guide the Wyandots in those desperate days. Although he assumed the duties and powers of Sachem it is not believed that Tarhe ever assumed the title Sastaretsi.
He had already gained the respect of the various tribes and of the French, British and Americans long before this time. In 1786 Tarhe and his son-in-law, Isaac Zane, were listed among the witnesses to a United States Treaty signing with the Shawnee. Both before and after this time, Wyandots were often invited to sit in on negotiations between the Government and various tribes.
Isaac Zane had come a long way since his capture at the age of nine. The tribe treated him vdery well and Tarhe took him into his own household to live. When he reached manhood, Isaac married Myeerah, Tarhe's only daughter.
Isaac visited his Zane relatives many times. However he always returned to the Wyandots. Isaac acted as interpreter on many important occasions. He served under Anthony Wayne for a time and, upon his return, was welcomed into the Wyandot lodges where he was respected for having done his duty as he saw it.
A bit of mystery surrounds Tarhe's first wife, the mother of Myeerah. It is generally believed that she was French of the Durante family. Some say she was captured as a child, raised by the Wyandots and subsequently married to Tarhe. One stgory claims that she was recognized by her blood father while at Detroit and that Tahre took her away from the area and never permitted he to bo back, fearing that he would lose her. This would appear to be romantic fiction. She may very well have been French and a Durante, but almost certainly she was not a captive. The Wyandots were on excellent terms with the French during those years and such a seizure would surely have been unthinkable.
Whatever the truth of the matter, Myeerah's mother is rarely, if ever, mentioned again in writing. She may have died at an early age, or Tarhe may have been divorced from her. He married at least once more, and that marriage too d in mystery. He probably married Sally Sharpe. They had one son who was severely disabled and died at the age of twenty-five.
Sally Sharpe subsequently married another Wyandot, Between-the-Logs. She moved west with the tribe in 1843 and at some point married a man named Frost. She is most generally referred to as Sally Frost. She was said to have been captured at Greenbriar, Virginia in 1782, at the age of one or two. Another version says that Sally Frost was actually Caty Sage, who was captured in Elk Creek Valley, Viriginia and died in Kansas at the age of sixty-six after having been married three times, etc. Caty's brother is said to have visited her in Kansas in 1848, but she reportedly refused to return to Virginia with him. She said to him, "Though you may think my lot has been a hard one- and certainly it has- I have no reason to complain. I have always been treated tenderly in the way I have been raised." It was generally considered that the Wyandots treated prisoners more kindly thatn did other tribes.)
Another story of an Indian captive that concerns Tarhe tells something of his personal character.
Peggy Fleming, a white girl, was brought as a captive to Upper Sandusky, a Wyandot town, by a small group of Cherokees in 1789. The party camped about one-quarter mile from Tarhe's village. Word soon spread that there was a white captive nearby.
A white man named Whitaker who had himself been captured and raised by the Wyandots went to visit Peggy. Whitaker had by this time achieved a position of influence in the tribe. He had frequently gone on trading missions to Pittsburgh where he had often stayed at a tavern owned by Peggy's father. Whitaker recognized the girl immediately and she begged him to help her escape.
He returned to Upper Sandusky and told Tarhe the prisoneer was his sister. Tarhe believed Whitaker and went to the Cherokee camp asking for Peggy's release. The Cherokees refused. Tarhe then offered to purchase the girl and again they refused his request. he was determined to secure her release and returned to the Wyandot town, telling Whitaiker to raise a fair sum of money or a quantity of silver brooches. Early the next morning Tarhe and eight or ten other warriors returned to the Cherokee camp and found them asleep. Peggy was naked and painted black, an indication that she was to be killed. Tarhe cut her bonds, secured her clothing and then awakened the Cherokees. He told them Peggy was now his prisoner and tossed the money and brooches at their feet. The Wyandots took Peggy to Upper Sandusky and delivered her to Whitaker. After a few days she was escorted back to Pittsburgh. Wheterh Tarhe ever learned Peggy was not related to Whitaker is not know.
Among the close friends of Tarhe was the greaqt Mingo chief, Logan. They lived near each other for a time and the Mingo felt very close to the Wyandot nation. It is believed the Wyandots buried this famous chief when he died.
Tarhe lived at various locations in Ohio including present day Lancaster, Columbus, Solomonstown, Zanesfield, Upper Sandusky and Cranetown (named for him).
Tarhe helped negotiate many treaties during the time he was Grand Sachem. Throught this time he attempted to hold his tribe together, to serve the other tribes in the area and to relinquish each parcel of land only after the pressures had become unbearable.
He fought against Clark, Boupuet, Marmar, St. Clair and Wayne. Although Tarhe was eventually defeated, both his enemies and his friends knew he was dedicated first and last to the welfare of his people.
It is believed the last battle Tarhe fought in personally was in 1794 at Fallen Timbers. That action was a brief but devastating one for the allied tribes. The only tribe to fight with distinction that day was the Wyandots. They were pinned down near the river and lost heavily. The Wyandot chiefs were decimated. Of the thirteen chiefs who entered the battle, only Tarhe survived and he was severely wounded in the right elbow.
Most Indians realized their cause was lost after Fallen Timbers. The British had failed to supprot tem and the tribes could assemble no force capable of opposing Wyane. When he summoned the tribes to Greenville, almost all of the Indian leaders in the Midwest responded. A notable exception was Tecumseh.
In July 1795, nearly a year after Fallen Timbers, a great assemblage of Indians met with Wayne at Greenville, Ohio. The acknowledged leader of the Indians was Tarhe, and a principal interpreter was Isaac Zane.
During the lengthy negotiations Tarhe made several speeches. The following example of his eloquence gives some measure of his intellect:
"Elder brother! Now listen to us. The great Spirit above has appointed this day for us to meet together. I shall now deliver my sentiments to you, the fifteen fires. I view you, lying in a gore of blood. It is me, an Indian who caused it. Our tomahawk yet remains in your head- the English gave it to me to place there.
"Elder brother! I now take the tomahawk out of your head; but with so much care you shall not feel pain or injury. I will now tear a big tree up by the roots and throw the hatchet into the cavity which they occupy; where the waters will wash it away to where it can never be found. Now, I have buried the hatchet, and I expect that none of my color will ever again find it out. I now tell you that none in particular can justly claim this ground- it belongs in common to all. No earthly being has an exclusive right to it." (Spoken on a blue belt.)
"Brothers, the fifteen fires, listen! You now see that we have buried the hatchet. We still see blood around, and in order to clear away all grief, we now wipe away the blood from around you, which together with the dirt that comes away from it, we bury with the hatchet in the hole we have made for them, and replace the great tree, as it stood before, so that neither our children, nor our children's children can ever again discover it." (Spoken on a blue string attached and both delivered.)
"Brothers, listen! I now wipe your body clean from all blood with this white, soft linen (a white wampum) and I do it with as much tenderness as I am capable of. You have appointed this house for the chiefs of the different tribes to sit in with you, and none but good words ought to be spoken in it. I have swept it clean- nothing impure remains in it.
"Brothers, listen! We are both placed on this ground. I now wipe the tears from your eyes and open your ears. I see your throat is so stopped that you are nearly suffocated- I now open your throat and make it quite clean, that whatever the Great Spirit may think proper for you to swallow may go down without any obstruction. I see also that your heart is not in its true situation- I now place it in its proper position, that anything you may hear from us, your brothers, may descend directly to it, and what you shall say may come with truth and ease from it.
"Brother! I clear away the hovering clouds that we may enjoy a clear, bright day; and easily see the sun which the Great Spirit has bestowed on us, to rise and set continually." (A white string.)
"Brother! Listen to us Indians, who now speak to you. The bones which lie scattered of your ancient warriors who fell in defense of the present cause, we gather all together, and bury them now, and place this white board over the, that they may never again be seen by our posterity." (A white belt and string.)
"Brother warrior! Listen to us. The great chiefs are about to speak to you. Your chiefs and warriors present, listen also.
"Brother! We speak not from our lips, but from our hearts, when we are resolved upon good works. I always told you that I never intended to deceive you, when we entered upon this business. It was never the intention of us Indians to do so. I speak from my heart what I now say to you. The Great Spirit is now viewing us, and did he discover any baseness or treachery, it would excite his just anger against us.
"Brother! Listen to me. We are all of one mind, who are here assembled. This is a business not to be trifled with- it is a matter of the utmost concern to us. We happily so far agree in handling our ancestors' records, who always worked for peace.
"Brother! You have proposed to us to build our good work on the treaty of Muskingum. That treaty I have always considered as formed upon the fairest principles. You took pity on us Indians- you did not do as our fathers, the British, agreed you should. You might by that agreement, have taken all our lands; but you pitied us, and let us hold part. I always looked upon that treaty to be binding upon the United States and us Indians.
"Brother! Listen to us Indians- I told you just now that we were upon business of the greatest moment. I now conclude the great work we have been employed in, and with this, I cover the whole earth, that it may appear white, and shine all over the world. I hope the Great Spirit will have pity on us, and make this work lasting." (Four large mixed belts presented.)
"Brother! I am going to relate to you the treaty made at Muskingum in a few words. I have not forgotten that treaty; neither have you. At that time we settled a peace between the Delawares, Six Nations, Ottawas, Chippeways, Potawattamies, and us Wyandots. It is very true there were not so many different nations then assembled as are now present. We now establish a general, permanent, and lasting peace, forever.
"Brother! We are all sensible that when you struck the boundary, at that time, it ran from Tuscarawas to a little way below Loramie, where the fort stood, which was destroyed in 1752. I understand the line has since been moved a little toward us. Be strong, brothers, and fulfill your engagements.
"Brothers, listen! I have told you that I speak from my heart- you see the speeches I have delivered. Peruse them and see whether or not I have spoken with sincerity. This is all your brothers of the different nations present have this day to say to you."
Chief Tarhe died in November 1816, at Cranetown near Upper Sandusky Ohio. The funeral for this 76 year old man was the largest ever known for an Indian Chief. Among the Indians coming from great distances was Red Jacket, the noted leader and orator from Buffalo New York. The mourners were without paint or decorations of any kind and their countenance showed the deepest sorrow.
Tarhe married Ronyouquaines La Durante.14 Ronyouquaines was born between 1715 and 1738 and died in 1803.
The child from this marriage was:
261 i. Myeerah 14 (born about 1757 in Solomontown, Northwest Territory, <(Ohio)>, (United States) - died in Feb 1816 in Zanesville, Muskingum, Ohio, United States)
523. Ronyouquaines La Durante,14 daughter of Chevalier Durante and Unknown, was born between 1715 and 1738 and died in 1803.
Ronyouquaines married Chief Tarhe.14 186 187 Tarhe was born in 1742 in [near Detroit], (Michigan), (United States), died on 28 Aug 1816 in Cranetown near Upper Sandusky, (Wyandot), Ohio, United States at age 74, and was buried in Nov 1816 in (Wyandot Co.), Ohio, United States.
576. James Kirk 138 was born about 1730 in <County Antrim>, (Northern) Ireland and died in (Northern) Ireland.
Research Notes: James Kirk (possibly the father of "our" Robert, and possibly also of John, Alexander and Matthew) may have never come to America, dying in Northern Ireland. His son James, Jr. may have remained in Ireland as well.
From http://www.telegraph-office.com/McEwen_family_history/John_Kirk_1751-1822-mirror_of_history.pdf :
John Kirk was born in County Antrim, Ireland in 1751. He was of Scottish descent.iv
Kirk is the Scottish word for church.v We inherited the word 'kirkja' from the Vikings, who plundered Scotland for centuries, finally leaving the northern most islands of Scotland in the 15th
century. Generally, anyone named Kirk in Scotland or northern England took the name because they lived by a church.
Antrim is in the present Northern Ireland. In John Kirk's time, Northern Ireland's population was principally Scottish settlers who had left Scotland looking for the freedom to practice their
Presbyterian religion and a better economic climate.
John was the son of James Kirk born about 1730 in Ireland. His mother's name is unknown.
John Kirk came to America in 1772. Younger brothers Matthew and Robert came with him.
Matthew was just 12 at the time. Their father James and a brother, also named James, remained in Ireland.vi The most careful genealogists have not been able to find a record of John's mother.
It seems strange that James Kirk would send or permit his three young boys to journey to America by themselves. Perhaps they knew someone here. Or perhaps conditions were so bad in Northern Ireland that the father wanted his sons to have a better life in spite of the hardships they would encounter.
The same conditions that forced the Scottish settlers to flee Scotland emerged in Northern Ireland, causing mass migrations of the Scots-Irish to colonial America.
John Kirk and his brothers came to Charles' Town (Charleston) South Carolina, probably with Protestant settlers brought by Rev. Wm. Martin on five ships. They settled near the current town
of Lancaster, SC.
It is told that the ship left Larne, Ireland in August, but the passengers on John's ship, possibly the "Lord Dunluce" or the "James and Mary", were not allowed to leave the ship until December because of a smallpox outbreak while in transit.
There is a record of a land grant to John Kirk from the South Carolina Colonial Council in Charles' Town. He was the only one of the brothers old enough to own land.
John married Eleanor Montgomery, daughter of Hugh Montgomery and Jane Cunningham. Their children were born in South Carolina.
John Kirk served in the American Revolution under General Thomas Sumter and was wounded.
James married someone.
His children were:
i. James Kirk, Jr. 138 188 was born about 1750 in <Ballymoney>, County Antrim, Northern Ireland and died in (Northern) Ireland.
ii. John Kirk 138 189 was born in 1751 in <Ballymoney>, County Antrim, (Northern) Ireland and died in 1822 in <Rutherford Co.>, Tennessee, United States at age 71.
288 iii. Robert Kirk 14 137 (born about 1756 in <Ballymoney>, County Antrim, North Ireland - died before 22 Mar 1843 in <Camden District>, Lancaster Co., South Carolina, United States)
iv. Matthew Kirk 190 191 192 193 was born about 1760 in <Ballymoney>, County Antrim, Northern Ireland, died on 2 Jun 1839 in Lancaster Co., South Carolina, United States about age 79, and was buried in Shiloh Cemetery, Lancaster, South Carolina, United States.
616. Rev. Seth I. Manes,194 195 196 197 198 son of William Jacob Maness II and Lydia, was born on 6 Feb 1762 in Bedford Co., Virginia, (United States) and died in 1852 in <Rogersville>, Hawkins, Tennessee, United States at age 90.
Death Notes: Died near Rogersville. Year may have been 1853
Research Notes: Said to be a stepchild, probably of the mother, making him the son of a first of two wives (or common-law wives). Have not yet found solid information on Billy Manes' wife or wives.
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There is a town called Manes in Wright County, Missouri, named after Seth.
From Wikipedia - Manes, Missouri :
Manes (pronounced M is an unincorporated community in Wright County , Missouri , United States , about 12 miles northeast of Hartville . Located on Route 95 , several houses are located here, and at one time the town had a post office (ZIP code 65703), though mail is now served by Mountain Grove .
Manes takes its name from a Baptist minister of Richland, Missouri by the name of Seth Manes. A missionary church was established in Manes in 1893 and in 1894 the first church was built in Manes. This building was used until 1925 when the current Baptist church building was erected.
Manes was a considerable trade center in the early part of the 20th century, boasting at least 3 stores, a bank, a post office, hotel, and eating establishments until automobiles and better highways made travel to larger towns more accessible.
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From
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=cathyconn&id=I4179 :
Was in Revolutionary War--1 Sep 1780-in Cp. Williams Co.,
Colonel Caswell's NC Regt. Was in skirmish at Baties Bridge and
Battle of Lindley's Hill. Married Patsy Fields--probably in NC.
Seth, Patsy, & family moved to Moore Co, NC 1762-1780. Moved to
Hawkins Co. TN & settled in mountains there around 1782-83.
"History of Laclede,Camden, Dallas, Webster, Wright, Texas,
Pulaski, Phelps and Dent Counties, MO" says he was Welch; Rev.
War; d Hawkins Co. TN.
Note: Census Hawkins Co.TN.
• Baptist Minister: Richland, Missouri, United States.
• Census: 1840, Hawkins Co., Tennessee, United States.
Seth married Susan Fields 199 200 201 about 1782 in Knoxville, Hawkins (Knox), Tennessee, United States. Susan was born about 1763 in North Carolina, (United States), died about 1853 in Hawkins Co., Tennessee, United States about age 90, and was buried in Rogersville, Hawkins, Tennessee, United States.
Children from this marriage were:
308 i. George R. Manes 143 144 145 (born about 1785 in Moore Co., North Carolina, (United States) - died about 1852 in Searcy Co., Arkansas, United States)
ii. Jacob Wilson Manes 202 203 was born in 1780 in Moore Co., North Carolina, (United States) and died on 5 Jan 1853 in Mountain Grove, Texas, Missouri, United States at age 73.
iii. Joseph Jacob Manes 204 was born in 1781 in Moore Co., North Carolina, (United States) and died about 1840 about age 59.
iv. William Manes 205 206 was born in Feb 1782 in Moore Co., North Carolina, (United States) and died on 12 Jun 1842 in Hawkins Co., Tennessee, United States at age 60.
v. Jesse Manes 207 208 209 was born in 1790 in Hawkins, Tennessee, (United States) and died on 25 May 1846 in Hawkins Co., Tennessee, United States at age 56.
vi. Elizabeth Manes 210 211 was born in 1794 in Hawkins, Tennessee, (United States) and died on 13 Nov 1859 in Carter, Kentucky, United States at age 65.
vii. John B. Manes 212 213 was born in 1795 in Hawkins, Tennessee, (United States) and died in Jun 1856 in Chestnut Ridge, Hawkins, Tennessee, United States at age 61.
viii. James Manes 214 215 was born about 1796 in Hawkins Co., Tennessee, United States and died about 1809 in Tennessee, United States about age 13.
ix. Tempe Manes 216 217 was born in 1800 in Hawkins Co., Tennessee, United States and died in Searcy Co., Arkansas, United States.
617. Susan Fields 199 200 201 was born about 1763 in North Carolina, (United States), died about 1853 in Hawkins Co., Tennessee, United States about age 90, and was buried in Rogersville, Hawkins, Tennessee, United States.
Burial Notes: Buried at "old home place" north of Rogersville.
Research Notes: From http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=cathyconn&id=I4180 :
Info from Barbara Couser, Buried on old home place, north of
Rogersville, Hawkins Co. Tn.--near Cinch Mountain. 1
Susan married Rev. Seth I. Manes 194 195 196 197 198 about 1782 in Knoxville, Hawkins (Knox), Tennessee, United States. Seth was born on 6 Feb 1762 in Bedford Co., Virginia, (United States) and died in 1852 in <Rogersville>, Hawkins, Tennessee, United States at age 90.
618. Thomas Lawson 218 was born about 1760.
Thomas married someone.
His child was:
309 i. Malinda B. Lawson 146 147 (born about 1787 in Rhea, Tennessee, (United States) - died <May> 1864 in Searcy Co., Arkansas, United States)
632. John Plemons,166 182 son of Thomas Plemin and Polly < >, was born in 1750 and died in 1815 in <Virginia>, United States at age 65.
• Residence: 1790, Burke Co., North Carolina, United States. in the Morganton District, near the South Fork of the Catawba River.
• Residence: 1805, Buncombe Co., North Carolina, United States.
John married Elizabeth Jane Prichard 219 about 1771 in Rowan Co., North Carolina, (United States). Elizabeth was born in 1759 in Virginia, (United States) and died in 1862 in Buncombe Co., North Carolina, United States at age 103.
Children from this marriage were:
316 i. John Plemons 166 167 182 (born in 1772 in Virginia, (United States) - died in 1865 in Gilmer Co., Georgia, United States)
ii. Lara Elizabeth Plemons 182 220 was born on 5 Sep 1778 in Lincoln Co., North Carolina, United States and died on 5 Jan 1829 in Columbus, (Colorado), Texas, United States at age 50.
iii. Rachel Plemons 221 was born about 1783 in Burke Co., North Carolina, United States and died about 1860 about age 77.
iv. Peter Plemons 182 222 was born in 1788 in Burke Co., North Carolina, United States and died in Sep 1877 in Madison Co., North Carolina, United States at age 89.
v. Thomas Plemons 182 223 was born in 1789 in Burke Co., North Carolina, United States and died in 1848 in <Monroe Co., Tennessee>, United States at age 59.
vi. Jeremiah M. Plemons 182 224 was born about 1790 in Morganton, Burke, North Carolina, United States and died in 1849 in Morgan Co., Alabama, United States about age 59.
vii. Susan P. Plemons 225 was born about 1804 in Leicester, Buncombe, North Carolina, United States and died in 1865 about age 61.
viii. James Plemons 182
633. Elizabeth Jane Prichard 219 was born in 1759 in Virginia, (United States) and died in 1862 in Buncombe Co., North Carolina, United States at age 103.
Elizabeth married John Plemons 166 182 about 1771 in Rowan Co., North Carolina, (United States). John was born in 1750 and died in 1815 in <Virginia>, United States at age 65.
634. <William> Hailey died <1795> in <Burke, North Carolina>, United States.
Research Notes: According to http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:af4124&id=I133, "In April 1795 John Plemons and his wife were made administrators of the estate of William Hailey,'deceased.' In Oct. of 1795 Thomas Plemons was appointed gaurdian of Robert Hailey, minor son of William Hailey.Thomas is probably the brother of John and Robert is probably the brother of Cealy. This was in Burk County, N.C."
William was probably Cecilia's father.
<William> married someone.
His children were:
317 i. Cecelia Hailey 169 (born about 1772 in Virginia, (United States) - died on 28 Sep 1851 in Gilmer Co., Georgia, United States)
ii. Robert Hailey was born about 1777.
11th Generation 1040. Nathaniel Zane,226 son of Robert Zane and Margaret Hammond, was born on 24 Oct 1670 in Dublin, Leinster, Ireland and died on 20 Feb 1727 in Newton Twp, Gloucester, New Jersey, (United States) at age 56.
Birth Notes: Bridefleet or Woodfleet in Dublin. (FamilySearch.org)
Nathaniel married Grace Rakestraw 227 on 27 Aug 1697 in Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, (United States). Grace was born in 1670 in <Dublin, Ireland> and died on 6 Oct 1741 in Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, (United States) at age 71.
The child from this marriage was:
520 i. William Andrew Zane 183 (born on 26 Nov 1712 in Newton, Gloucester, New Jersey, (United States) - died in 1799 in Wheeling, Ohio, (West) Virginia, (United States))
1041. Grace Rakestraw,227 daughter of William Rakestraw and Grace Wyron, was born in 1670 in <Dublin, Ireland> and died on 6 Oct 1741 in Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, (United States) at age 71.
Birth Notes: Other sources (found in FamilySearch.org) have birthplace as possibly Philadelpha, PA or Cornwall, England.
Death Notes: Per FamilySearch.org, death date may have been 8 Dec 1741.
Grace married Nathaniel Zane 226 on 27 Aug 1697 in Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, (United States). Nathaniel was born on 24 Oct 1670 in Dublin, Leinster, Ireland and died on 20 Feb 1727 in Newton Twp, Gloucester, New Jersey, (United States) at age 56.
1046. Chevalier Durante 14 was born between 1673 and 1712 and died between 1715 and 1793.
Chevalier married someone.
His child was:
523 i. Ronyouquaines La Durante 14 (born Betw 1715 and 1738 - died in 1803)
1232. William Jacob Maness II,228 229 230 231 son of William Jacob Maness and < >, was born in 1738 in Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland, died in 1832 in Moore Co., North Carolina, United States at age 94, and was buried in Maness Family Cemetery, Robbins, Moore, North Carolina, United States.232
Birth Notes: May have been born in Kildonan, Isle of Arran, Scotland or in Kildonan, Highland, Scotland.
Other sources have Pennsylvania or Bedfored County, Virginia. Hwever, either of these is unlinkely since he is recorded as emigrating on the shop "Hope's End" between 1747 and 1749.
A William Nathan Maness was born in Pennsylvania about 1738 (info from Sons of the American Revolution application).
Burial Notes: The Maness Family Cemetery is near Pleasant Hill Church, Moore County, North Carolina, north of Robbins off the Robbins-High Falls Road.
Research Notes: Served in the Revolutionary War on the side of the Americans.
From Ancestry of Paul Bailey Maness (author Dennis Manness) - http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=pbmaness&id=I6515 :
He "migrated to NC about 1765 by wagon train, which stopped at the site of Smyrna Methodist Church north of Robbinson Grassy Creek. He settled near Bear Creek, in what was then Cumberland County, and owned 200 acres of land near Carter's Mill- April 27th, 1767. By May 4th, 1769 owned another 100 acres in what is now Robbins. He later bought more land, owning a total of about 600 acres. His occupation was = Farmer. He enlisted on July 28, 1775 as a private, First Battallion of the North Carolina Line( Col. Thomas Clark's Battallion), part of the Continental Army. This was a dangerous move , as most of the populationof Moore County were Scots, who were loyal to the British King.He was one of only about a half dozen local men who volunteered to fight for the American cause. He appears to have fought in northern campaigns and in the guerilla fighting that continued until 1783. Military records show his last pay period to include Feb. 1, 1785, which would indicate that he was one of the few men who stayed on "in readiness" as a peacekeeper. The 1790 Census shows him to have six sons and seven or eight daughters. Some of these children may have been adopted or the children of other family members. After the war, William served as Township Constable. He died in 1832 at the age of 94, and is buried north of Robbins off the Robbins-High Falls Rd. in the Maness Family Cemetary near Pleasant Hill Church (Moore County, NC)" Source: James Peterson.
"... I will tell you that the senior William MANESS first appeared in the Moore County area comes from ABSTRACTS OF MINUTES OF THE COURT OF PLEAS AND QUARTER SESSIONS OF CUMBERLAND CO., NC, Oct. 1755-Jan. 1779. On page 175, "May 21, 1765, Wm. MANUS (sic) is appointed constable in Capt. Cheney's District." This William is believed to have been William Jr. Also on the only surviving Tax List for Cumberland County for the period 1754-1776 is for the year 1767. On this list appeared William MINUS (Maness) and William MINUS Jr. We also find another mention of a William MANESS, Sr. was in a Land Grant from the Governor of NC in the year 1772. 100 acres of land was granted to Simeon Hart on Bear Creek in Moore County, adjoining the 100 acres grant to William MANESS..etc. A later 1783 tax list for Cumberland County, also contains a William MINUS Sr. William MINUS Jr. Wm Maness did not leave a will, but his administration of his estate was granted to Wm. MANIS (sic). Assumed to be Wm. Jr. a Geo. Glascock was his security, in the amt. of 50 pounds. These two Maness' came from Pensylvania to NC in the mid 1760's." Source: Juanita Kesler
"*Oath prescribed by Act of Assembly passed at Newbern, May 10th 1777, entitled an Act for the Security of the State. *The Highlander's Oath: I, do swear and as I shall answer to God at the great day of Judgment, I have not, nor shall have in my possession any gun, pistol or arm whatsoever, and never use tartan plaid of any other part of the Highland garb; and if I do so may I be cursed in my undertakings, family and property; may I never see my wife and children, father, mother, or relation; may I be killed in battle as a coward and lie without Christian burial, in a strange land, far from the graves of my forefathers and kindred. May all this come across me if I break my oath. 1778 - The following were listed as signing the Oath of Allegiance to the State: George Eason, Robert Gilles, Gilbert Eccles, George Meek, Adam Stewart and Charles Leitch. 1778 - The following took the Oath in July Court: James Burnside, Archibald Simson, Sion Horn, Duncan Buie, Alex. Spiers, John White, Phillip Raiford and Arch. Henry. 1779 - The following took the Oath in January Court: James Emmet, Cornelious Lofton, George McKay and Daniel Monroe. 1779? - The following took the Oath in July Court: Silvanus Wilson, Philemon Hodges, William Thomson, Thomas Kees, William Lee, Bartholomew Dunn, William Dunn, William Manus, John McIntire, Samuel Campbell, Duncan McNeill, James Cooper, Jacob Matthews and Arch. Curry. At April Court [year?] Angus McDugal took the Oath." Source: Bill Mele
"During the Revolution he served with Col. Thomas Clark's 1st NC Battalion, having enlisted 7/28/1773. Records show that he served through most, or all, of the Revolution. Army accounts indicate that he was paid 9/1/1784 and 1785." Source: Charles "Ken" Maness
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From findagrave.com -
Maness Cemetery
Also buried:
Garner Maness 1806-1863
Katie Maness 1814-1890
Issac Maness 1810-1841
Betsy Maness 1812-1875
Emma Maness 1846-1895
Henry Maness 1828-1830
Noah Maness 1860-1861
• Emigrated: from Scotland to Pennsylvania, Betw 1747 and 1749. on the ship "Hope's End" with his father, William Maness I.
• Residence: 1749, Pennsylvania, (United States).
• Occupation: Farmer. From Descendants of John Maness:
"William Maness was a farmer, as were most of the early settlers. The term 'farmer' did not mean exactly the same then as it does now. He cleared some of the virgin forest, hunted, fished, and almost entirely lived off the land."
• Moved: Abt 1755, North Carolina, (United States). probably with his father.
• Residence: 1759, Hemp, Cumberland (Robbins, Moore), North Carolina, (United States).
• Moved: to Bear Creek in Cumberland County, North Carolina, Abt 1765. by wagon train
• Land: 200 acres near Carter's Mill, Cumberland County, North Carolina, 27 Apr 1767.
• Land: 100 acres in what is now the town of Robbins, North Carolina, 4 May 1769, Cumberland, (Moore), North Carolina, (United States).
• Land grant: to Simeon Hart of 100 acres adjoining land of William Maness, 1772, Bear Creek, Cumberland [Moore], North Carolina, (United States). by the Governor of North Carolina
• Enlisted: as a private in the Continental Army, 28 Jul 1775, Cumberland, (Moore), North Carolina, (United States). First Battallion of the North Carolina Line under Col. Thomas Clark. One of only a half dozen local men who volunteered to fight for the American cause.
May have been 28 Jul 1773.
• Served: n the Continental Army during and after the Revolutionary War, 28 Jul 1775-1 Feb 1785. Was in the First Battallion of the North Carolina Line under Col. Thomas Clark. Was "in readiness" status as a peacekeeper after the war.
• Constable: of Township, Abt 1783.
• Tax List: 1783, Wake (Moore), North Carolina, United States.
• Census: 1790. 6 sons, 8 daughters
• Land: additional 100 acres, 15 Dec 1802.
Children from this marriage were:
616 i. Rev. Seth I. Manes 194 195 196 197 198 (born on 6 Feb 1762 in Bedford Co., Virginia, (United States) - died in 1852 in <Rogersville>, Hawkins, Tennessee, United States)
ii. Daniel Maness 234 235 was born about 1763 in Moore Co., North Carolina, (United States) and died in 1850 in Moore Co., North Carolina, United States about age 87.
iii. Ambrose Manes 236
William next married Keziah Brooks.237 Keziah was born about 1740.
Children from this marriage were:
616 i. Rev. Seth I. Manes 194 195 196 197 198 (Relationship to Father: Biological, Relationship to Mother: Step ) (born on 6 Feb 1762 in Bedford Co., Virginia, (United States) - died in 1852 in <Rogersville>, Hawkins, Tennessee, United States)
ii. Susannah Maness 238 was born in 1766 in Moore Co., North Carolina, (United States) and died in Moore Co., North Carolina, United States.
iii. Shadrach Maness 239 was born in 1770 in Robbins, Moore, North Carolina, (United States), died on 27 Oct 1858 in Moore Co., North Carolina, United States at age 88, and was buried in Maness Family Cemetery, Robbins, Moore, North Carolina, United States.240
iv. Meschach Maness 241 was born in 1770 in Robbins, Moore, North Carolina, (United States) and died after 1840 in Alabama, United States.
v. Abednego Maness was born in 1770 in Robbins, Moore, North Carolina, (United States) and died in McNairy, Tennessee, United States.
vi. Celia Manes 242 was born in 1773 in Moore Co., North Carolina, (United States) and died in 1850 in Moore Co., North Carolina, United States at age 77.
vii. Sarah Manes 243 was born on 10 Apr 1780 in Moore Co., North Carolina, United States and died on 14 Sep 1849 in Moore Co., North Carolina, United States at age 69.
viii. William Nathan Maness 244 245 was born on 20 Aug 1782 in Moore Co., North Carolina, United States and died by 1860 in McNairy, Tennessee, United States at age 78.
ix. James Manes 246 was born about 1784 in Moore Co., North Carolina, United States and died before 1840 in Sevier, Tennessee, United States.
x. Judith Manes 247 248 was born in 1797 in Moore Co., North Carolina, United States and died in 1880 in Moore Co., North Carolina, United States at age 83.
1233. Lydia .233
Lydia married William Jacob Maness II.228 229 230 231 William was born in 1738 in Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland, died in 1832 in Moore Co., North Carolina, United States at age 94, and was buried in Maness Family Cemetery, Robbins, Moore, North Carolina, United States.232
1264. Thomas Plemin 249 250 was born about 1728 and died about 1785 in <Rowan Co.>, North Carolina, United States about age 57.
• Residence: Abt 1756, Rowan Co., North Carolina, (United States).
Children from this marriage were:
632 i. John Plemons 166 182 (born in 1750 - died in 1815 in <Virginia>, United States)
ii. Peter Plemons 251 was born in 1755 in Augusta Co., Virginia, (United States), died in Jan 1838 in Leicester, Buncombe, North Carolina, United States at age 83, and was buried in Newfound Baptist Church Cemetery, Leicester, Buncombe, North Carolina, United States.
iii. Thomas Plemons 252 253 was born in 1760 in Rowan Co., North Carolina, (United States), died about 1850 in Macon Co., North Carolina, United States about age 90, and was buried in <Macon Co.>, North Carolina, United States.
iv. Mary Plemons 254 was born in 1765 in Rowan Co., North Carolina, (United States) and died in 1819 in Buncombe, Buncombe, North Carolina, United States at age 54.
1265. Polly < > .249
Polly married Thomas Plemin.249 250 Thomas was born about 1728 and died about 1785 in <Rowan Co.>, North Carolina, United States about age 57.
12th Generation 2080. Robert Zane,255 son of Robert Zane, Sr. and Wilmot Zane, was born in 1642 in <Yorkshire>, England and died on 27 Jan 1694 in <Newton, Gloucester, West Jersey (New Jersey, United States)> at age 52.
Birth Notes: Birthdate may have been 19 Mar 1643 in Yorkshire (Devon), England per FamilySearch.org
Death Notes: Death date may have been 1 Mar 1694 or 1695 per FamilySearch.org
Robert married Margaret Hammond 256 in Sep 1664 in Dublin, Leinster, Ireland. Margaret was born about 1645 in Yorkshire, England.
The child from this marriage was:
1040 i. Nathaniel Zane 226 (born on 24 Oct 1670 in Dublin, Leinster, Ireland - died on 20 Feb 1727 in Newton Twp, Gloucester, New Jersey, (United States))
2081. Margaret Hammond 256 was born about 1645 in Yorkshire, England.
Margaret married Robert Zane 255 in Sep 1664 in Dublin, Leinster, Ireland. Robert was born in 1642 in <Yorkshire>, England and died on 27 Jan 1694 in <Newton, Gloucester, West Jersey (New Jersey, United States)> at age 52.
2082. William Rakestraw 257 was born about 1646 in <Philadelphia, Pennsylvania> and died on 2 Feb 1718 in Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, (United States) about age 72.
Birth Notes: Birth year may be any between 1623 and 1653 per FamilySearch.org
William married Grace Wyron 14 before 1670. Grace was born on 6 Oct 1652 and died between 1677 and 1746.
The child from this marriage was:
1041 i. Grace Rakestraw 227 (born in 1670 in <Dublin, Ireland> - died on 6 Oct 1741 in Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, (United States))
2083. Grace Wyron 14 was born on 6 Oct 1652 and died between 1677 and 1746.
Grace married William Rakestraw 257 before 1670. William was born about 1646 in <Philadelphia, Pennsylvania> and died on 2 Feb 1718 in Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, (United States) about age 72.
2464. William Jacob Maness,258 259 260 261 262 son of John Maness and Unknown, was born about 1715 in Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland and died in 1787 in Moore Co., North Carolina, (United States) about age 72.
Birth Notes: May have been born in Kildonan, Isle of Arran, Scotland or in Kildonan, Highland, Scotland.
Death Notes: May have died in Orange County, North Carolina.
Research Notes: From - http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=pbmaness&id=I6516 (quoted by Dennis Mannes):
"William Maness, Sr. and Jr. arrived in Colonial America (Pennsyvania) shortly after the Battle of Culloden, 1745 (ca. 1747) sailing aboard the ship "Hope's End," out of Kildonan, Isle of Arran, Scotland, though the ship's name is still in dispute. From there, they migrated to present-day Moore County, North Carolina." Source: Greg Maness
"Some of our "cousins" have argued that William Maness I could not be the son of John Maness because John is recorded as serving as J.o.P. in North Carolina in 1711 and William was born in Kildonan in 1715. Maybe . . . maybe not. However, I have always put forward the one possibilty that COULD confirm John is the father of William. It is generally held in our records (and I guess we can never confirm beyond the shadow of a doubt, but . . .) that John was born in Kildonan in 1655 . . . William in Kildonan in 1715. My contention is that John (even at an advanced age of approx. 60), being a proud member of Clan Gunn, returned to Scotland for the first Jacobite uprising in 1714/15. While there, William I was born and there are other records that indicate that William I and his father arrived together in America. It may or may not be true, but I haven't heard a better explanation of how someone living here in 1711 could have a son born in Scotland in 1715! Unfortunately, the Kildonan Parish church records burned around the time of the second Jacobite uprising (1745 -- Bonnie Prince Charlie and all that good stuff . . .) and after the Maness boys had left). We'll never know, but doesn't that make for something interesting to ponder???" Source: Greg Maness
• Emigrated: from Scotland to America, Abt 1747. "William Maness, Sr. and Jr. arrived in Colonial America (Pennsyvania) shortly after the Battle of Culloden, 1745 (ca. 1747) sailing aboard the ship "Hope's End," out of Kildonan, Isle of Arran, Scotland, though the ship's name is still in dispute. From there, they migrated to present-day Moore County, North Carolina." Source: Greg Maness
• Moved: by 1755, North Carolina, (United States). probably with his son William
• Living: 1755, Orange, North Carolina, (United States).
• Moved: Abt 1765, Cumberland, (Moore), North Carolina, (United States).
• Tax List: 1767, Cumberland, (Moore), North Carolina, (United States). Names William Minus and William Minus Jr.
• Oath of Allegiance: to the State, Jul 1779, New Bern, Craven, North Carolina, (United States). Listed was "William Manus," most likely the elder William Maness as his son was serving in the Continental Army at the time.
The penalty for refusing to take the oath was:
"...said persons be commanded and directed to depart the State of North Carolina, either to Europe or the West Indies, within 60 days from this date." This wording is in the Act of Assembly passed on 25 jul 1777, "Act for the Security of the State."
• Tax List: 1783, Wake (Moore), North Carolina, United States.
William married < >.263 < was born in 1718 in Orange, North Carolina, (United States).
Children from this marriage were:
1232 i. William Jacob Maness II 228 229 230 231 (born in 1738 in Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland - died in 1832 in Moore Co., North Carolina, United States)
ii. Henry Maness 264 265 was born in 1737 in Bedford Co., Virginia, (United States) and died in 1830 in Moore Co., North Carolina, United States at age 93.
iii. Ambrose Maness 266 267 was born in 1740 in Bedford Co., Virginia, (United States).
iv. Arthur Maness 268 269 was born in 1744 in Bedford Co., Virginia, (United States).
v. Isaac Maness 270 271 was born in 1746 in Bedford Co., Virginia, (United States) and died <1775> in [near Erect], (Randolph), North Carolina, (United States) at age 29.
vi. John Smith Maness 272 273 was born in 1749 in Bedford Co., Virginia, (United States).
vii. Lydia Maness 274 275 was born in 1752 in Bedford Co., Virginia, (United States).
viii. Nathan Maness 276 277 was born in 1756 in Bedford Co., Virginia, (United States).
2465. < > 263 was born in 1718 in Orange, North Carolina, (United States).
< married William Jacob Maness.258 259 260 261 262 William was born about 1715 in Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland and died in 1787 in Moore Co., North Carolina, (United States) about age 72.
13th Generation4160. Robert Zane, Sr. 278 was born about 1620 in Devon, England and died about 1694 in Newton Twp, Gloucester, New Jersey, (United States) about age 74.
• Occupation: Weaver/Serge maker.
• Religion: Friends of Salem.
Robert married Wilmot Zane.14 Wilmot was born in 1622 and died between 1646 and 1716.
The child from this marriage was:
2080 i. Robert Zane 255 (born in 1642 in <Yorkshire>, England - died on 27 Jan 1694 in <Newton, Gloucester, West Jersey (New Jersey, United States)>)
4161. Wilmot Zane 14 was born in 1622 and died between 1646 and 1716.
Wilmot married Robert Zane, Sr..278 Robert was born about 1620 in Devon, England and died about 1694 in Newton Twp, Gloucester, New Jersey, (United States) about age 74.
4928. John Maness 279 280 281 282 was born about 1655 in Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland and died on 21 Feb 1729 in Chowan (Bertie), North Carolina, (United States) about age 74.
Birth Notes: May have been born in Kildonan, Isle of Arran, Scotland or in Kildonan, Highland, Scotland. Website "Descendants of John Maness" has b. 1655 in Loch Catrine, near Inverness, Scotland
Research Notes: From http://genforum.genealogy.com/maness/messages/461.html - Beverly Pasternak 1 Jan 2001:
John Maness b 1655 d 21 Feb 1728 or 29 Bertie Co NC wife unk., son William Maness b 1715 Scotland d 1787 wife unknown.
Wm's son William II served in Revolution b 1738 Bedford Co VA d 1832 Moore Co NC wife unknown.
Wm II son Shadrach m. Celia Wallace
• Occupation: Justice of the Peace, 1711, North Carolina, (United States).
• Will: 1729, Chowan (Bertie), (North) Carolina, (United States). Witnessed by Elizabeth Smith
John married someone.
His children were:
2464 i. William Jacob Maness 258 259 260 261 262 (born about 1715 in Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland - died in 1787 in Moore Co., North Carolina, (United States))
ii. Jacob Maness 283 284 was born in 1695 in Chowan (Bertie), (North) Carolina, (United States) and died in <North Carolina>.
iii. Henry Maness 285 was born in 1700 in Chowan (Bertie), (North) Carolina, (United States) and died in 1756 in Chowan (Bertie), North Carolina, (United States) at age 56.
iv. Ambrose Maness 286
v. Benjamin Maness 287
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