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Henry de Beaumont 1st Earl of Warwick




Husband Henry de Beaumont 1st Earl of Warwick

            AKA: Henry de Newburgh, Henry de Neubourg
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         Father: Roger de Beaumont Lord of Beaumont-le-Roger and Pont-Audemer (Abt 1015-1094)
         Mother: Adeline of Meulan (Abt 1014-1081)






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From Wikipedia - Henry de Beaumont, 1st Earl of Warwick :

Henry de Beaumont, 1st Earl of Warwick (? - 20 June 1123 ) was a Norman nobleman. He is also known as Henry de Neubourg or Henry de Newburgh, from the castle of Newburg near Louviers , in Normandy where he was born.
Henry was the younger son of Roger de Beaumont and Adeline of Meulan , daughter of Waleran III, Count de Meulan . He inherited the modest lordship of La Neubourg, in central Normandy, but acquired a much greater holding in England, when, in reward for help in suppressing the Rebellion of 1088 , William II of England made him Earl of Warwick .
His name is included in the roll of the knights who came over with the William the Conqueror , but he does not appear to have been present at the Battle of Hastings . He spent the greater part of his life in Normandy , his name is not found in the Domesday Book . He took a leading role in reconciling the Conqueror with his eldest son Robert Curthose in 1081 and he stood high in the Conqueror's favour. He was the companion and friend of Henry I , and when in 1100 a division took place amongst the barons who had gathered together to choose a successor to William II, it was mainly owing to his advice that Henry was selected and when in the following year most of the barons were openly or secretly disloyal and favoured the attempt of Duke Robert to gain the Crown, he and his brother were amongst the few that remained faithful to the King.
He had many honours conferred upon him, in 1068 he was made Constable of Warwick Castle and shortly afterwards King William gave it to him together with the borough and manor. The Castle was enlarged and strengthened during the long succession of powerful lords, and it eventually became one of the most renowned of English fortresses and it remains even to-day the glory of the midland shires. The Bear and Ragged Staff was the badge of Guy the great opponent of the Danes, and Henry on his elevation to the Earldom in 1076 by William I, assumed it, and it has ever since been used by successive Earls. Odericus tells us that "he earned this honour by his valour and loyalty" and Wace speaks of him as "a brave man". He was made a Councillor by the King in 1079 and a Baron of the Exchequer in Normandy 12 April 1080 .
In 1099 he fought against the Welsh and built a castle at Abertawy , near Swansea , which was unsuccessfully attacked by the Welsh in 1113 ; he also captured the Gower Peninsula in the south of Glamorganshire . He built other castles at Penrhys , Llandhidian and Swansea in ll20 , together with the others at Oystermouth and Aberllychor , the only remains of the latter are a mound and a keep.
Some time between 1106 and 1116 he was granted the lordship of Gower in Wales .
Henry was by disposition quiet and retiring, and was overshadowed by his elder brother Robert de Beaumont, 1st Earl of Leicester , reputedly one of the most brilliant men in England.
He died 20 June 1123 and was buried in the Abbey at Preaux .


[edit ] Family and children
He married before 1100 Marguerite, daughter of Geoffrey II of Perche and Beatrix of Montdidier , and had children:
Roger de Beaumont, 2nd Earl of Warwick , who succeeded him as earl;
Henry de Neubourg, probably inherited Dorset and Devon estates.
Robert de Neubourg , who inherited Henry's Norman lands, and was Chief Justiciar of Normandy;
Rotrou (died 27 November 1183 ), who was Bishop of Évreux and then Archbishop of Rouen , and who was Chief Justiciar and Steward of Normandy.
Geoffroy.

[edit ] References
Edward T. Beaumont, J.P. The Beaumonts in History. A.D. 850-1850. Oxford.
FMG on Henry de Beaumont


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William II Talvas Lord of Belleme and Alencon and Hildegarde de Beaumont




Husband William II Talvas Lord of Belleme and Alencon

            AKA: Guillaume II Talvas Lord of Belleme and Alencon
           Born: 995 - Normandie, France
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Wife Hildegarde de Beaumont

            AKA: Bildeburge de Beaumont
           Born: Abt 1002
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         Father: Arnulf de Beaumont (Abt 0950-      )
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1 M Viscount William de la Ferte-Mace

            AKA: William Lord of La Ferte-Mace, William Count de la Ferte-Mace, Viscount William de la Ferte Mace, William Ferte Massey
           Born: 1034 - Massey, England
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         Spouse: Miss (Muriel?) de Conteville [stepmother of Hamon] (Abt 1037-      )
           Marr: 1058 - Normandie, France




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http://masseyfamgenealogy.tripod.com/a31.htm#i3139


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Rootsweb? FamilySearch? has b. abt 1002

Wikipedia (William I Talvas):
His reputation was that of a wicked man, "in all things worse than his brothers, and his wickedness has flourished to this day among his heirs." He was married to Hildeburg, who was the mother of his son Arnulf and daughter Mabel </w/index.php?title=Mabel_of_Bell%C3%AAme&action=edit>. But his marriage was unsatisfying and he had his wife murdered on her way to church. He soon married the daughter of Rodulf the vicomte of Beaumont.

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Hildegarde de Beaumont




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Wife Hildegarde de Beaumont

            AKA: Bildeburge de Beaumont
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         Father: Arnulf de Beaumont (Abt 0950-      )
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   Other Spouse: William II Talvas Lord of Belleme and Alencon (0995-Abt 1048)



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1 M Arnulf Talvas

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2 F Mabel Talvas

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Rootsweb? FamilySearch? has b. abt 1002

Wikipedia (William I Talvas):
His reputation was that of a wicked man, "in all things worse than his brothers, and his wickedness has flourished to this day among his heirs." He was married to Hildeburg, who was the mother of his son Arnulf and daughter Mabel </w/index.php?title=Mabel_of_Bell%C3%AAme&action=edit>. But his marriage was unsatisfying and he had his wife murdered on her way to church. He soon married the daughter of Rodulf the vicomte of Beaumont.

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Hugh de Beaumont 1st Earl of Bedford




Husband Hugh de Beaumont 1st Earl of Bedford

           Born: Abt 1106
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         Father: Robert de Beaumont 1st Earl of Leicester and Count of Meulan (Abt 1049-1118)
         Mother: Isabel de Vermandois Countess of Leicester (Abt 1081-1131)






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Source: Wikipedia - Elizabeth of Vermandois
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Gilbert de Clare 1st Earl of Pembroke and Isabel de Beaumont




Husband Gilbert de Clare 1st Earl of Pembroke

           Born: Abt 1100
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         Father: Gilbert fitz Richard Earl of Clare and Lord of Tonbridge (Abt 1060-1114)
         Mother: Adelaide de Clermont-en-Beauvaisis (1072-      )


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Wife Isabel de Beaumont

           Born: After 1102
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         Father: Robert de Beaumont 1st Earl of Leicester and Count of Meulan (Abt 1049-1118)
         Mother: Isabel de Vermandois Countess of Leicester (Abt 1081-1131)





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Source: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 by Frederick Lewis Weis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr, ed. by William R. Beall & Kaleen E. Beall (Baltimore, 2008), line 184-4


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From Wikipedia - Elizabeth of Vermandois :

Isabel de Beaumont (b Aft. 1102), a mistress of King Henry I of England . Married two times:
Gilbert de Clare, 1st Earl of Pembroke by whom she was mother of Richard Strongbow , who invaded Ireland 1170 ;
Hervé de Montmorency, Constable of Ireland (this marriage is not conclusively proven)

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Isabel de Beaumont




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Wife Isabel de Beaumont

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         Father: Sir Robert de Beaumont 2nd Earl of Leicester (1104-1168)
         Mother: Amice de Gael de Montfort (      -1168)





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Source: Wikipedia - Robert de Beaumont, 2nd Earl of Leicester
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Saer de Quincy 1st Earl of Winchester and Margaret de Beaumont




Husband Saer de Quincy 1st Earl of Winchester

            AKA: Seer de Quincy
           Born: 1155
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           Died: 3 Nov 1219
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         Father: Robert de Quincy (      -      )
         Mother: Orabilis of Leuchars (      -      )


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Wife Margaret de Beaumont

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         Father: Robert de Beaumont 3rd Earl of Leicester (      -1190)
         Mother: Petronilla (      -      )





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1 F Hawise Quincy

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         Spouse: Hugh de Vere 4th Earl of Oxford (Abt 1208-1263)
           Marr: 1223



2 F Lorette de Quincy

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3 M Robert de Quincy

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4 M Roger de Quincy 2nd Earl of Winchester

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5 M Robert de Quincy

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           Died: 1257
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         Spouse: Elen ferch Llywelyn Fawr (Abt 1207-1253)




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From Wikipedia - Saer de Quincy, 1st Earl of Winchester

Saer de Quincy, 1st Earl of Winchester (1155 - 1219 -11-03 ) was one of the leaders of the baronial rebellion against King John of England , and a major figure in both Scotland and England in the decades around the turn of the twelfth and thirteenth centuries.
Saer de Quincy's immediate background was in the Scottish kingdom: his father was a knight in the service of king William the Lion , and his mother was the heiress of the lordship of Leuchars in Fife (see below ). His rise to prominence in England came through his marriage to Margaret, the younger sister of Robert de Beaumont, 4th Earl of Leicester : but it is probably no coincidence that her other brother was the de Quincys' powerful Fife neighbour, Roger de Beaumont , Bishop of St Andrews . In 1204, Earl Robert died, leaving Margaret as co-heiress of the vast earldom along with her elder sister. The estate was split in half, and after the final division was ratified in 1207, de Quincy was made Earl of Winchester .
Following his marriage, de Quincy became a prominent military and diplomatic figure in England. There is no evidence of any close alliance with King John , however, and his rise to importance was probably due to his newly-acquired magnate status and the family connections that underpinned it.

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The family of de Quincy had arrived in England after the Norman Conquest , and took their name from Cuinchy in the Arrondissement of Béthune ; the personal name "Saer" was used by them over several generations. Both names are variously spelled in primary sources and older modern works, the first name being sometimes rendered Saher or Seer, and the surname as Quency or Quenci.
The first recorded Saer de Quincy (known to historians as "Saer I") was lord of the manor of Long Buckby in Northamptonshire in the earlier twelfth century, and second husband of Matilda of St Liz , stepdaughter of King David I of Scotland . This marriage produced two sons, Saer II and Robert de Quincy . It was Robert, the younger son, who was the father of the Saer de Quincy who eventually became Earl of Winchester. By her first husband Robert Fitz Richard , Matilda was also the paternal grandmother of Earl Saer's close ally, Robert Fitzwalter.
Robert de Quincy seems to have inherited no English lands from his father, and pursued a knightly career in Scotland, where he is recorded from around 1160 as a close companion of his cousin, King William the Lion . By 1170 he had married Orabilis , heiress of the Scottish lordship of Leuchars and, through her, he became lord of an extensive complex of estates north of the border which included lands in Fife , Strathearn and Lothian .
Saer de Quincy, the son of Robert de Quincy and Orabilis of Leuchars, was raised largely in Scotland. His absence from English records for the first decades of his life has led some modern historians and genealogists to confuse him with his uncle, Saer II, who took part in the rebellion of Henry the Young King in 1173, when the future Earl of Winchester can have been no more than a toddler. Saer II's line ended without direct heirs, and his nephew and namesake would eventually inherit his estate, uniting his primary Scottish holdings with the family's Northamptonshire patrimony, and possibly some lands in France.
By his wife Margaret de Beaumont, Saer de Quincy had three sons and three daughters:


Lorette who married Sir William de Valognes
Arabella who married Sir Richard Harcourt
Robert (d. 1217). Some sources say he married Hawise, sister and co-heiress of Ranulf de Blundeville, earl of Chester . However, it is more likely Hawise married Saer's brother Robert II;
Roger , who succeeded his father as earl of Winchester (though he did not take formal possession of the earldom until after his mother's death);
Robert de Quincy (second son of that name; d. 1257) who married Helen , daughter of the Welsh prince Llywelyn the Great ;
Hawise, who married Hugh de Vere, 4th Earl of Oxford .
His arms were: Or, a fess gules, in chief a label of seven points azure.

References
FMG on Saher de Quincy
"Winchester", in The Complete Peerage , ed. G.E.C., xii. 745-751
Sidney Painter, "The House of Quency, 1136-1264", Medievalia et Humanistica, 11 (1957) 3-9; reprinted in his book Feudalism and Liberty
Grant G. Simpson, "An Anglo-Scottish Baron of the Thirteenth century: the Acts of Roger de Quincy Earl of Winchester and Constable of Scotland" (Unpublished PhD Thesis, Edinburgh 1963).
Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700 (7th Edition, 1992,), 58-60.
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Source: Wikipedia - Hugh de Vere, 4th Earl of Oxford
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Source: Wikipedia - Robert de Beaumont, 3rd Earl of Leicester
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Margaret de Beaumont




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Wife Margaret de Beaumont

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         Father: Sir Robert de Beaumont 2nd Earl of Leicester (1104-1168)
         Mother: Amice de Gael de Montfort (      -1168)





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Source: Wikipedia - Robert de Beaumont, 2nd Earl of Leicester
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Matilda Beaumont




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Wife Matilda Beaumont

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         Father: John de Beaumont Earl of Buchan, 2nd Lord Beaumont (1318-1342)
         Mother: Eleanor of Lancaster (Abt 1318-1372)





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Source: Wikipedia - Eleanor of Lancaster
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Maud de Beaumont




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Wife Maud de Beaumont

           Born: Abt 1111
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         Father: Robert de Beaumont 1st Earl of Leicester and Count of Meulan (Abt 1049-1118)
         Mother: Isabel de Vermandois Countess of Leicester (Abt 1081-1131)





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From Wikipedia - Elizabeth of Vermandois :

Maud de Beaumont (b ca 1111), married by her brother Waleran to William Lovel, or Louvel or Lupel, son of Ascelin Goel, Lord of Ivri.



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