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The Johnson-Wallace & Fish-Kirk Families




Ludolph , Duke of Saxony and Oda




Husband Ludolph , Duke of Saxony 1

           Born: Abt 816
     Christened: 
           Died: 6 Sep 864
         Buried: 


         Father: Bruno (      -      ) 2
         Mother: 


       Marriage: 




Wife Oda

           Born: Abt 806
     Christened: 
           Died: 913
         Buried: 



Children
1 M Otto "the Illustrious" , Duke of Saxony 3 4

           Born: Abt 836 - <Saxony, Germany>
     Christened: 
           Died: 30 Nov 912
         Buried: 
         Spouse: Haduich (Abt 0856-0903) 5
           Marr: 869 or 870




Birth Notes: Husband - Ludolph , Duke of Saxony

http://www.smokykin.com/ged/f002/f01/a0020154.htm has b. 826


Research Notes: Husband - Ludolph , Duke of Saxony

Source: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 by Frederick Lewis Weis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr, ed. by William R. Beall & Kaleen E. Beall (Baltimore, 2008), line 148-16


Research Notes: Wife - Oda

Died at age 107.

Source: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 by Frederick Lewis Weis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr, ed. by William R. Beall & Kaleen E. Beall (Baltimore, 2008), line 148-16 (Ludolph)


Birth Notes: Child - Otto "the Illustrious" , Duke of Saxony

http://www.smokykin.com/ged/f002/f01/a0020152.htm has b. 851


Thomas I , di Saluzzo, Marquis of Saluzzo and Luisa , di Ceva




Husband Thomas I , di Saluzzo, Marquis of Saluzzo 6

           Born: 
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           Died: 
         Buried: 


         Father: Manfredo III , di Saluzzo, Marquis of Saluzzo (      -1244) 6
         Mother: Beatrix , of Savoy (      -1259) 7


       Marriage: 




Wife Luisa , di Ceva 6

           Born: 
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 


         Father: George , di Ceva, Marquis of Ceva (      -      ) 6
         Mother: 





Children
1 F Alasia , di Saluzzo 6

           Born: 
     Christened: 
           Died: 25 Sep 1292
         Buried: 
         Spouse: Sir Richard FitzAlan, 8th Earl of Arundel (1266/1207-1302) 8 9
           Marr: Bef 1285





Luitfride I , Duke of Alsace




Husband Luitfride I , Duke of Alsace 10 11

           Born: Abt 718 - Alsace, France
     Christened: 
           Died: 731
         Buried: 


         Father: Adelbert , Duke of Alsace (Abt 0688-0722) 12 13
         Mother: 


       Marriage: 




Wife

           Born: 
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 



Children
1 M Luitfride II , Count of Alsace 14 15

           Born: Abt 752 - Alsace, France
     Christened: 
           Died: 800
         Buried: 
         Spouse: Hiltrude (      -      ) 16




Death Notes: Husband - Luitfride I , Duke of Alsace

Death date may have been later.


William I "Longsword" , Duke of Normandy and Luitgarde , of Vermandois




Husband William I "Longsword" , Duke of Normandy 17 18 19

            AKA: Guillaume I "Longue Épée" Duke of Normandy, William I "Longsword"
           Born: Abt 892 - <Rouen, (France)>
     Christened: 
           Died: 17 Dec 942 - France
         Buried: 


         Father: Rollo , Duke of Normandy (Betw 0860/0870-Abt 0929) 17 20 21 22
         Mother: Poppa , de Bayeux (Abt 0872-      ) 17 23


       Marriage: 

   Other Spouse: Sprote , de Bretagne (Abt 0911-      ) 17 24

Noted events in his life were:
• Succeeded, to County of Normandy, Abt 927

• Bretons rebelled, Abt 930




Wife Luitgarde , of Vermandois

           Born: Abt 920
     Christened: 
           Died: Aft 978
         Buried: 


         Father: Herbert II , Count of Vermandois, Soissons and Troyes (Betw 0880/0890-0943) 25 26 27 28
         Mother: Liegarde , of France (Abt 0886-Aft 0931) 29 30





Children

Birth Notes: Husband - William I "Longsword" , Duke of Normandy

May have been born in Bayeux.


Death Notes: Husband - William I "Longsword" , Duke of Normandy

Killed in treacherous ambush by servants of Theobald of Blois and Arnulf of Flanders


Research Notes: Husband - William I "Longsword" , Duke of Normandy

When the Bretons rebelled about 930, he subdued them, taking Brittany, the Channel Islands, the Contentin, and the Averanchin.

From Wikipedia - William I, Duke of Normandy :

William I Longsword (French : Guillaume Longue-Épée, Latin : Willermus Longa Spata, Scandinavian : Vilhjálmr Langaspjót; 893 - 17 December 942) was the second Duke of Normandy from his father's death until his own assassination. The title dux (duke) was not in use at the time and has been applied to early Norman rulers retroactively; William actually used the title comes (count).

Little is known about his early years. He was born in Bayeux or Rouen to Rollo and his wife Poppa. All that is known of Poppa is that she was a Christian, and the daughter to Berengar of Rennes , the previous lord of Brittania Nova , which eventually became western Normandy. According to the William's planctus , he was baptised a Christian.

William succeeded Rollo sometime around 927. It appears that he faced a rebellion early in his reign, from Normans who felt he had become too Gallicised . Subsequent years are obscure. In 939 William became involved in a war with Arnulf I of Flanders , which soon became intertwined with the other conflicts troubling the reign of Louis IV . He was killed by followers of Arnulf while at a meeting to settle their conflict. His son Richard the Fearless , child of his first wife, Sprota, succeeded him. William also left a widow, Ličgard (Liutgard), who died in 985.


Research Notes: Wife - Luitgarde , of Vermandois

Second wife of William I "Longsword"

Source: Wikipedia - Herbert II, Count of Vermandois


Wieman I , Count of Gand and Luitgarde , of Flanders




Husband Wieman I , Count of Gand 31

            AKA: Wickmann I Count of Gand
           Born: Abt 920 - Gand, Flanders (Belgium)
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 
       Marriage: Abt 955 - Flanders




Wife Luitgarde , of Flanders 31 32

            AKA: Ledgarde de Flanders
           Born: Abt 941 - Flanders
     Christened: 
           Died: 29 Sep 964
         Buried: 


         Father: Arnulf I , Count of Flanders and Artois (Abt 0890-0964/0965) 31 32 33 34
         Mother: Adele , of Vermandois (Betw 0910/0915-0960) 31 35 36 37





Children
1 M Theodoric de Gand 31

           Born: Abt 956 - Gand, Flanders (Belgium)
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 
         Spouse: Hildegarde de Holland (Abt 0961-      ) 31
           Marr: Abt 983 - Gand, East Vlaanderen, (Belgium)





William Jacob Maness II and Lydia




Husband William Jacob Maness II 38 39 40 41

            AKA: Billy Manes, William Jacob Manes II, William Manis, William Manus Jr.
           Born: 1738 - Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland
     Christened: 
           Died: 1832 - Moore Co., North Carolina, United States


         Buried:  - Maness Family Cemetery, Robbins, Moore, North Carolina, United States 42


         Father: William Jacob Maness (Abt 1715-1787) 43 44 45 46 47
         Mother: < > (1718-      ) 48


       Marriage: 

   Other Spouse: Keziah Brooks (Abt 1740-      ) 49

Noted events in his life were:
• Emigrated, from Scotland to Pennsylvania, Betw 1747 and 1749

on the ship "Hope's End" with his father, William Maness I.

• Residence, 1749 - Pennsylvania, (United States)

• Occupation, Farmer

From Descendants of John Maness:
"William Maness was a farmer, as were most of the early settlers. The term 'farmer' did not mean exactly the same then as it does now. He cleared some of the virgin forest, hunted, fished, and almost entirely lived off the land."

• Moved, Abt 1755 - North Carolina, (United States)

probably with his father.

• Residence, 1759 - Hemp, Cumberland (Robbins, Moore), North Carolina, (United States)

• Moved, to Bear Creek in Cumberland County, North Carolina, Abt 1765

by wagon train

• Land, 200 acres near Carter's Mill, Cumberland County, North Carolina, 27 Apr 1767

• Land, 100 acres in what is now the town of Robbins, North Carolina, 4 May 1769 - Cumberland, (Moore), North Carolina, (United States)

• Land grant, to Simeon Hart of 100 acres adjoining land of William Maness, 1772 - Bear Creek, Cumberland [Moore], North Carolina, (United States)

by the Governor of North Carolina

• Enlisted, as a private in the Continental Army, 28 Jul 1775 - Cumberland, (Moore), North Carolina, (United States)

First Battallion of the North Carolina Line under Col. Thomas Clark. One of only a half dozen local men who volunteered to fight for the American cause.
May have been 28 Jul 1773.

• Served, n the Continental Army during and after the Revolutionary War, 28 Jul 1775-1 Feb 1785

Was in the First Battallion of the North Carolina Line under Col. Thomas Clark. Was "in readiness" status as a peacekeeper after the war.

• Constable, of Township, Abt 1783

• Tax List, 1783 - Wake (Moore), North Carolina, United States

• Census, 1790

6 sons, 8 daughters

• Land, additional 100 acres, 15 Dec 1802




Wife Lydia 50

           Born: 
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           Died: 
         Buried: 



Children
1 M Rev. Seth I. Manes 51 52 53 54 55

            AKA: Rev. Seth I. Manus
           Born: 6 Feb 1762 - Bedford Co., Virginia, (United States)
     Christened: 
           Died: 1852 - <Rogersville>, Hawkins, Tennessee, United States
         Buried: 
         Spouse: Susan Patsy Fields (Abt 1763-Abt 1853) 56 57 58
           Marr: Abt 1782 - Knoxville, Hawkins (Knox), Tennessee, United States



2 M Daniel Maness 59 60

           Born: Abt 1763 - Moore Co., North Carolina, (United States)
     Christened: 
           Died: 1850 - Moore Co., North Carolina, United States
         Buried: 



3 M Ambrose Manes 61

           Born: 
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 




Birth Notes: Husband - William Jacob Maness II

May have been born in Kildonan, Isle of Arran, Scotland or in Kildonan, Highland, Scotland.
Other sources have Pennsylvania or Bedfored County, Virginia. Hwever, either of these is unlinkely since he is recorded as emigrating on the shop "Hope's End" between 1747 and 1749.

A William Nathan Maness was born in Pennsylvania about 1738 (info from Sons of the American Revolution application).


Burial Notes: Husband - William Jacob Maness II

The Maness Family Cemetery is near Pleasant Hill Church, Moore County, North Carolina, north of Robbins off the Robbins-High Falls Road.


Research Notes: Husband - William Jacob Maness II

Served in the Revolutionary War on the side of the Americans.

From Ancestry of Paul Bailey Maness (author Dennis Manness) - http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=pbmaness&id=I6515 :

He "migrated to NC about 1765 by wagon train, which stopped at the site of Smyrna Methodist Church north of Robbinson Grassy Creek. He settled near Bear Creek, in what was then Cumberland County, and owned 200 acres of land near Carter's Mill- April 27th, 1767. By May 4th, 1769 owned another 100 acres in what is now Robbins. He later bought more land, owning a total of about 600 acres. His occupation was = Farmer. He enlisted on July 28, 1775 as a private, First Battallion of the North Carolina Line( Col. Thomas Clark's Battallion), part of the Continental Army. This was a dangerous move , as most of the populationof Moore County were Scots, who were loyal to the British King.He was one of only about a half dozen local men who volunteered to fight for the American cause. He appears to have fought in northern campaigns and in the guerilla fighting that continued until 1783. Military records show his last pay period to include Feb. 1, 1785, which would indicate that he was one of the few men who stayed on "in readiness" as a peacekeeper. The 1790 Census shows him to have six sons and seven or eight daughters. Some of these children may have been adopted or the children of other family members. After the war, William served as Township Constable. He died in 1832 at the age of 94, and is buried north of Robbins off the Robbins-High Falls Rd. in the Maness Family Cemetary near Pleasant Hill Church (Moore County, NC)" Source: James Peterson.

"... I will tell you that the senior William MANESS first appeared in the Moore County area comes from ABSTRACTS OF MINUTES OF THE COURT OF PLEAS AND QUARTER SESSIONS OF CUMBERLAND CO., NC, Oct. 1755-Jan. 1779. On page 175, "May 21, 1765, Wm. MANUS (sic) is appointed constable in Capt. Cheney's District." This William is believed to have been William Jr. Also on the only surviving Tax List for Cumberland County for the period 1754-1776 is for the year 1767. On this list appeared William MINUS (Maness) and William MINUS Jr. We also find another mention of a William MANESS, Sr. was in a Land Grant from the Governor of NC in the year 1772. 100 acres of land was granted to Simeon Hart on Bear Creek in Moore County, adjoining the 100 acres grant to William MANESS..etc. A later 1783 tax list for Cumberland County, also contains a William MINUS Sr. William MINUS Jr. Wm Maness did not leave a will, but his administration of his estate was granted to Wm. MANIS (sic). Assumed to be Wm. Jr. a Geo. Glascock was his security, in the amt. of 50 pounds. These two Maness' came from Pensylvania to NC in the mid 1760's." Source: Juanita Kesler

"*Oath prescribed by Act of Assembly passed at Newbern, May 10th 1777, entitled an Act for the Security of the State. *The Highlander's Oath: I, do swear and as I shall answer to God at the great day of Judgment, I have not, nor shall have in my possession any gun, pistol or arm whatsoever, and never use tartan plaid of any other part of the Highland garb; and if I do so may I be cursed in my undertakings, family and property; may I never see my wife and children, father, mother, or relation; may I be killed in battle as a coward and lie without Christian burial, in a strange land, far from the graves of my forefathers and kindred. May all this come across me if I break my oath. 1778 - The following were listed as signing the Oath of Allegiance to the State: George Eason, Robert Gilles, Gilbert Eccles, George Meek, Adam Stewart and Charles Leitch. 1778 - The following took the Oath in July Court: James Burnside, Archibald Simson, Sion Horn, Duncan Buie, Alex. Spiers, John White, Phillip Raiford and Arch. Henry. 1779 - The following took the Oath in January Court: James Emmet, Cornelious Lofton, George McKay and Daniel Monroe. 1779? - The following took the Oath in July Court: Silvanus Wilson, Philemon Hodges, William Thomson, Thomas Kees, William Lee, Bartholomew Dunn, William Dunn, William Manus, John McIntire, Samuel Campbell, Duncan McNeill, James Cooper, Jacob Matthews and Arch. Curry. At April Court [year?] Angus McDugal took the Oath." Source: Bill Mele

"During the Revolution he served with Col. Thomas Clark's 1st NC Battalion, having enlisted 7/28/1773. Records show that he served through most, or all, of the Revolution. Army accounts indicate that he was paid 9/1/1784 and 1785." Source: Charles "Ken" Maness
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From findagrave.com -

Maness Cemetery
Also buried:
Garner Maness 1806-1863
Katie Maness 1814-1890
Issac Maness 1810-1841
Betsy Maness 1812-1875
Emma Maness 1846-1895
Henry Maness 1828-1830
Noah Maness 1860-1861


Death Notes: Child - Rev. Seth I. Manes

Died near Rogersville. Year may have been 1853


Delbert Kirk and Lydia




Husband Delbert Kirk

           Born: 26 Apr 1904
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 


         Father: George Robert Kirk (1872-1944) 62
         Mother: Grace Elizabeth Parsons (1876-1951) 62


       Marriage: 




Wife Lydia

           Born: 
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 



Children


Talaus , King of Argos [Mythological] and Lysimache , [Mythological]




Husband Talaus , King of Argos [Mythological] 63

           Born: 
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 


         Father: Bias , of Argos [Mythological] (      -      ) 64
         Mother: Pero , [Mythological] (      -      ) 65


       Marriage: 




Wife Lysimache , [Mythological] 66

           Born: 
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 


         Father: Abas , [Mythological] (      -      ) 66
         Mother: Cyrene , [Mythological] (      -      ) 66





Children
1 M Adrastus , King of Argos [Mythological] 67

            AKA: Adrestus King of Argos
           Born: 
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 




Research Notes: Husband - Talaus , King of Argos [Mythological]

From Wikipedia - Talaus

In Greek mythology , Talaus (Ancient Greek : was the king of Argos and one of the Argonauts . He was the son of Bias and Pero . His wife was Lysimache , daughter of Abas. He was the father of Adrastus , Astynome, Eriphyle , Mecisteus , Mythidice, and Pronax .[1]


Research Notes: Wife - Lysimache , [Mythological]

From Wikipedia - Lysimache :

Lysimache, daughter of Abas and Cyrene . She married king Talaus of Argos and bore him these children: Adrastus , Parthenopaeus , Mecisteus , Hippomedon , Pronax , Aristomachus , and Eriphyle .[1]


William d'Aubigny, 3rd Earl of Arundel and Mabel , of Chester




Husband William d'Aubigny, 3rd Earl of Arundel 68 69

            AKA: William d' Aubigny 3rd Earl of Arundel
           Born: Bef 1180
     Christened: 
           Died: 1 Feb 1221 - [near Rome], (Italy)
         Buried:  - Wymondham Abbey, Wymondham, Norfolk, England


         Father: William d'Aubigny, 2nd Earl of Arundel and Sussex (      -1193) 70 71
         Mother: Maud de St. Hilary (1132-1193) 17 72 73


       Marriage: Betw 1196 and 1199




Wife Mabel , of Chester 69

           Born: Abt 1173
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 


         Father: Hugh , of Kevelioc, 5th Earl of Chester (1147-1181) 27 74 75
         Mother: Bertrade de Montfort, of Evreux (      -      ) 74





Children
1 F Nichole d' Aubigny 76

            AKA: Nichole d'Aubigny
           Born: 
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 
         Spouse: Roger de Somery, of Dudley, Warwickshire (      -1273) 77



2 F Isabel d'Aubigny

            AKA: Isabel d' Aubigny
           Born: 
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 
         Spouse: John FitzAlan, Lord of Clun and Oswestry, Salop (1200-1240) 78 79




Death Notes: Husband - William d'Aubigny, 3rd Earl of Arundel

Other sources have d. March 1220/1221


Research Notes: Husband - William d'Aubigny, 3rd Earl of Arundel

Crusader, named in the Magna Charta, 1215

Source: familysearch.org (Kevin Bradford)

Source: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 by Frederick Lewis Weis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr, ed. by William R. Beall & Kaleen E. Beall (Baltimore, 2008), line 149-27

From Wikipedia - William d'Aubigny, 3rd Earl of Arundel :

William d'Aubigny, 3rd Earl of Arundel (before 1180 - 1 February 1221) was a son of William d'Aubigny, 2nd Earl of Arundel and Matilda St Hilary .

Lineage
His paternal grandparents were William d'Aubigny, 1st Earl of Arundel and Adeliza of Leuven . His maternal grandparents were James de St. Hilaire and his wife Aveline.

A royal favourite
William was a favourite of King John . He witnessed King John's concession of the kingdom to the Pope on 15 May 1213. On 14 June 1216 he joined Prince Louis (later Louis VIII of France ) after King John abandoned Winchester . He returned to the allegiance of the King Henry III after the Royalist victory at Lincoln , on 14 July 1217.

Death returning from the Fifth Crusade
He joined in the Fifth Crusade (1217-1221), in 1218. He died on his journey home, in Caneill, Italy, near Rome , on 1 February 1221. News of his death reached England on 30 March 1221. He was brought home and buried at Wymondham Abbey .
His title was held by his son William , until he died, childless, in 1224, when it was passed to William's youngest son Hugh .

Marriage and Issue
After 1196 and before 1200 William married Mabel of Chester (born c. 1173), daughter of Hugh de Kevelioc, 3rd Earl of Chester and Bertrade de Montfort of Evreux. They were the parents of seven children.
Maud d'Aubigny
Cicely d'Aubigny
Colette d'Aubigny
William d'Aubigny, 4th Earl of Arundel (d. 1224); buried Wymondham Abbey
Hugh d'Aubigny, 5th Earl of Arundel (d. 7 May 1243); buried Wymondham Abbey
Isabel d'Aubigny ; married John Fitzalan, Lord of Oswestry , by whom she had issue.
Nicole d'Aubigny; married Roger De Somery

Sources
Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700 by Frederick Lewis Weis, Lines: 16C-26, 126-29, 149-27.
Remfry, P.M., Buckenham Castles, 1066 to 1649 (ISBN 1-899376-28-3 )
G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume I, page 237.


Research Notes: Wife - Mabel , of Chester

Source: familysearch.org (Kevin Bradford)

Source: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 by Frederick Lewis Weis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr, ed. by William R. Beall & Kaleen E. Beall (Baltimore, 2008), line 149-27 (William d'Aubigny)


Adam de Aldithley and Mabella?




Husband Adam de Aldithley

            AKA: Adam de Audley
           Born: Abt 1125
     Christened: 
           Died: Abt 1200
         Buried: 


         Father: Lydulph de Aldithley (Bef 1040-Aft 1130)
         Mother: 


       Marriage: 

Noted events in his life were:
• Deputy of Bertram de Verdun, as Sheriff of Warwickshire and Leicestershire, 1168-1183

• Sheriff, of Warwickshire and Leicestershire, 1184-1185

• Deputy of Bertram de Verdun, as Sheriff of Cheshire, 1186

• Manor of Stanleigh, in Staffordshire granted by Bertram de Verdun, 1190

as a mark of his special favour.
Source:
The House of Stanley from the 12th Century
by Peter Stanley at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ourpage/history.htm :


• Exchanged Manor of Stanleigh, and half of Manor of Balterley with cousin William, Abt 1192

for William's Manor of Talk on the Hill (which adjoined Aldithley).




Wife Mabella?

           Born: 
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           Died: 
         Buried: 



Children
1 M William de Stanleigh

            AKA: William Audley, William [I] de Stanley
           Born: Abt 1170 - Hooton, Wirral Peninsula, Cheshire, England
     Christened: 
           Died: Abt 1236
         Buried: 



2 M Adam Audley 80

            AKA: Adam de Aldithley, Adam Stanleigh
           Born: Abt 1171
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 



3 M Thomas Stanleigh

           Born: Abt 1172
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 



4 M Richard Stanleigh

           Born: Abt 1173
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 



5 M Lucase Audley

           Born: 
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 



6 M Henry Audley

            AKA: Henry de Aldithley
           Born: Abt 1197
     Christened: 
           Died: 19 Nov 1246
         Buried: 



7 F Isabel Audley

           Born: 
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 




Birth Notes: Husband - Adam de Aldithley

Source:
The House of Stanley from the 12th Century
by Peter Stanley at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ourpage/history.htm :
"In fact, however, Lydulph (or Liulf), styled 'de Aldithley', was born circa 1115 - some years after the Conquest. His younger brother Adam was born circa 1125. The Manor of Aldithley (Audley) is not situated in Normandy, but is near Newcastle-under-Lyme in Staffordshire (as are the Manors of Balterley and Talk on the Hill). These three Manors did not come into the possession of the Audleys until early in the 12th century when they were held by socage, i.e. military service, from the De Verdun family. There is no evidence to support the story that these Manors were acquired through marriage to Saxon heiresses, and the Manor of Stanleigh did not come into the possession of the Audleys until late in the 12th century when it was the gift of their Overlord, Bertram de Verdun, before he left England for the Crusades in 1190."

Glenda Turcks http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=nanatea&id=I33919 gives b. abt 1125, d. abt 1200


Death Notes: Husband - Adam de Aldithley

Glenda Turcks http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=nanatea&id=I33919 gives d. abt 1200.


Research Notes: Husband - Adam de Aldithley

Excerpted from The House of Stanley from the 12th Century
by Peter Stanley at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ourpage/history.htm :

"Adam de Aldithley played a prominent part in the retinue of Bertram de Verdun and acted as his Deputy when Bertram was Sheriff of Warwickshire and Leicestershire from 1168 to 1183. He succeeded Bertram as Sheriff of these two counties in 1184 and 1185, and acted as his Deputy in Cheshire in 1186. In 1190 Bertram de Verdun accompanied King Richard I to the Crusades in the Holy Land. Before leaving England, he granted to Adam de Aldithley the additional Manor of Stanleigh in Staffordshire, as a mark of his special favour. Bertram did not return to England, dying in Juppa in 1192. He was succeeded to his estates in England by his son, Nicholas de Verdun. Some time later, Adam de Aldithley took the opportunity to rearrange his estates by exchanging his new Manor of Stanleigh, and half of the Manor of Balterley, with his cousin William, the son of his uncle, Adam (later styled 'de Stanleigh') for William's Manor of Talk on the Hill (which adjoined Aldithley). His cousin, William, being possessed of the Manor of Stanleigh then adopted the surname of 'de Stanleigh', being the first member of the family appearing in records using a surname when he witnessed a Charter in 1203, and again in 1217 and 1223 as 'William de Stanle'. Thus William was the first Ancestor of the Stanley family.

"The Manor of Stanleigh (Stanley) is situated about five miles from Leek in Staffordshire. At the time of the Great Survey in 1086, it was part of the larger Manor of Endor (which later became part of the De Verdun estates). It did not come into the possession of the De Aldithley family until late in the 12th century, when it was gift to Adam de Aldithley from his Overlord, Bertram de Verdun before the latter left with Richard 1 for the Crusades in 1190.

"Both Aldithley and Stanleigh were Saxon place names - the former meaning a meadow belonging to And (a Saxon female name), and the latter meaning a meadow or clearing which was craggy or stony. Because of this, Sir Anthony Wagner, Garter King of Arms, suggested in his book English Ancestry, that the Audleys and Stanleys were probably of Saxon stock. Mr L. G. Pine, former editor of Burke's Peerage, held a similar view. Surnames, however, first appeared in Europe in the 11th century and were not introduced into England until the arrival of the Normans. They were still rare at the time of the Conquest and only the more important barons possessed them at the time of the Great Survey in 1086. These surnames were generally derived from their estates in Normandy. It was not until the 12th century that the minor barons and knights adopted surnames and it is therefore unlikely that the early Aldithleys or Stanleys possessed a surname during their actual lifetime. These were probably added later by their descendants as a means of identification of an ancestor."

Adam de Aldithley was probably given the name Adam Stanleigh posthumously after his son William acquired the Manor of Stanley.

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Excerpted from The House of Stanley from the 12th Century
by Peter Stanley at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ourpage/history.htm :
Debunks this story:
"Two of Adam de Aldithley's grandsons were said to have married Saxon heiresses. His elder son, Lydulph, had a son, Adam, to whom a Saxon thane gave his only daughter and heir, Mabella, in marriage, and it was thus that he acquired in his wife's right, the Manors of Stanleigh and Balterley in Staffordshire.... Later, Adam, the son of Lydulph, exchanged his Manor of Stanleigh and half the Manor of Balterley, with his cousin, William (the son of his uncle, Adam), for the Manor of Talk on the Hill. William, then being possessed of the Manor of Stanleigh, adopted the surname 'de Stanleigh', and became the ancestor of the Stanleys, while his cousin, Adam de Aldithley, was the ancestor of the Audleys of Heleigh in Staffordshire.

"In fact, however, Lydulph (or Liulf), styled 'de Aldithley', was born circa 1115 - some years after the Conquest. His younger brother Adam was born circa 1125. The Manor of Aldithley (Audley) is not situated in Normandy, but is near Newcastle-under-Lyme in Staffordshire (as are the Manors of Balterley and Talk on the Hill). These three Manors did not come into the possession of the Audleys until early in the 12th century when they were held by socage, i.e. military service, from the De Verdun family. There is no evidence to support the story that these Manors were acquired through marriage to Saxon heiresses, and the Manor of Stanleigh did not come into the possession of the Audleys until late in the 12th century when it was the gift of their Overlord, Bertram de Verdun, before he left England for the Crusades in 1190."


Birth Notes: Child - William de Stanleigh

Glenda Turcks http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=nanatea&id=I33919 gives b. abt 1170, d. abt 1236, as does stanleyroots.co.uk. Another source has b. 1166.


Death Notes: Child - William de Stanleigh

Glenda Turcks http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=nanatea&id=I33919 gives d. abt 1236.


Birth Notes: Child - Henry Audley

Glenda Turcks http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=nanatea&id=I33919 has b. abt 1197


Death Notes: Child - Henry Audley

Glenda Turcks http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=nanatea&id=I33919 has d. 19 Nov 1246


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49 <Loyd, Linda D.>, Descendants of John Maness (http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/l/o/y/Linda-D-Loyd/PDFGENE6.pdf), 4.

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51 http://www.familysearch.org, Compact Disc #139 Pin #1667714.

52 http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi. Rec. Date: 25 Aug 2001, http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=cathyconn&id=I4179.

53 <Loyd, Linda D.>, Descendants of John Maness (http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/l/o/y/Linda-D-Loyd/PDFGENE6.pdf), 4. iii & Generation 4 (7).

54 http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi. Rec. Date: 25 Aug 2001, http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jcrogers&id=I3621.

55 Wikipedia.org, Manes, Missouri.

56 http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi. Rec. Date: 25 Aug 2001.

57 <Loyd, Linda D.>, Descendants of John Maness (http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/l/o/y/Linda-D-Loyd/PDFGENE6.pdf), 7.

58 http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi. Rec. Date: 25 Aug 2001, http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=cathyconn&id=I4180.

59 http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi. Rec. Date: 25 Aug 2001, http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=foxbonham&id=P3197139217.

60 <Loyd, Linda D.>, Descendants of John Maness (http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/l/o/y/Linda-D-Loyd/PDFGENE6.pdf), 4. iv. (8).

61 <Loyd, Linda D.>, Descendants of John Maness (http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/l/o/y/Linda-D-Loyd/PDFGENE6.pdf), 4. ii.

62 http://www.familysearch.org.

63 Wikipedia.org, Talaus.

64 Wikipedia.org, Bias (mythology).

65 Wikipedia.org, Pero.

66 Wikipedia.org, Lysimache.

67 Wikipedia.org, Adrastus.

68 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 149-27.

69 Wikipedia.org, William d'Aubigny, 3rd Earl of Arundel. Cit. Date: 25 May 2009.

70 Wikipedia.org, William d'Aubigny, 3rd Earl of Arundel (his son). Cit. Date: 25 May 2009.

71 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 149-26.

72 Wikipedia.org, John FitzGeoffrey; Roger de Clare, 3rd Earl of Hertford.

73 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 149-26 (William d'Aubigny).

74 Wikipedia.org, Hugh de Kevelioc, 5th Earl of Chester.

75 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 125-28, 126-28, 127-28.

76 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 126-30, 249-30.

77 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 249-30 (Nichole d'Aubigny).

78 Wikipedia.org, John Fitzalan, Lord of Oswestry. Cit. Date: 25 May 2009.

79 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 149-28 (Isabel d'Aubigny).

80 http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi. Rec. Date: 25 Aug 2001, http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=nanatea&id=I33919 (Glenda Turcks).


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