Eva Marie Ham
(Abt 1736-)

 

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Spouses/Children:
1. Johan Adam Papst (U.E.L.)

Eva Marie Ham 1

  • Born: Abt 1736, <Baden-Baden, Germany>
  • Christened: 17 May 1771, Schenectady Reformed Church, Schenectady, New York, (United States)
  • Marriage (1): Johan Adam Papst (U.E.L.) in 1753 in <Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, (United States)>
  • Died: Upper Canada (Ontario), Canada 2
  • Buried: Papst Family Farm, Lunenburg Twp, Stormont, Eastern District (Stormont, Dundas and Glengarry), Upper Canada (Ontario), Canada

   Other names for Eva were Eva Maria Hamm, Eva Marie Hamm, Eva Marie Hamm and Eve Mary Hamm.

  Research Notes:

Ambiguous information from handwritten note by Lorna (Wallace) to Danielle Fowler:
"My great grandmother on my mother's side... came to Canada from Baden-Baden, Germany*." [Footnote: "Ask [Lorna's brother] Stan if I'm right about this."]
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There are thus far no definitive answers about Eva's parentage or where and when she and Johan were married.

From George Cloakey 23 Dec 2009:

..."[Y]ou will see from the data that there are a lot of different opinions for some things--like where Adam and Mary were married. Since Mary was not on the Two Brother's ships list, it is hard to prove that they were married prior to arriving in Philadelphia [abt 28 September 1753].

There was a Friederich Hamm on the Two Brothers, and it has been assumed by many that he was Mary's father. However, Amidon (the Papst research guru) points toward Mary being born in New York Colony to Casper Ham. Casper and his wife Ann Leych had a daughter Maria born 3 Aug 1732. But neither side appears to have proof. If it was Casper's daughter, then the passed down stories of how Adam and Mary met would have no basis in fact. But then which of the many stories does one "hang their hat on?"
Here is what I have in my file on Friederich:

Believed to be the father of Eva Maria as he was on the same ship as Adam Papst--but far from proven.

The following is a possibility
Baptism Records of the Gallatin Reformed Church: Gallatinville Gallatin Reformed Church 1748-1899
Baptism Date: 12 Nov 1786
Father: Friedrich Stickel
Mother: Elizabeth Hamel
Item #: 934
Child: Friedrich
Sponsor: Friedrich Ham; Maritje Schmit
Birth Date: 01 Nov 1786

It is also very possible that Maritje Schmit was the wife of Friederich and the mother of Eva Maria. Johan Adam Schmit was also on the same ship and he could well be Maritje's father. It is also possible that this is a different Friederich."
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  Birth Notes:

Lorna Wallace, daughter of Edith Poapst, believed Eva Maria Hamm was born in Baden-Baden. Other sources have Ontario, Canada.


Eva married Johan Adam Papst (U.E.L.), son of Johann Paul Pabst and Maria Dorothea Weiss, in 1753 in <Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, (United States)>. (Johan Adam Papst (U.E.L.) was born about 1732 in Bonn, Westphalia, Germany 3, christened on 17 May 1771 in Schenectady Reformed Church, Schenectady, New York, (United States), died between 1803 and 1807 in Osnabruck Twp, Stormont, Eastern District (Stormont, Dundas and Glengarry), Upper Canada (Ontario), Canada and was buried in Papst Family Farm, Lunenburg Twp, Stormont, Eastern District (Stormont, Dundas and Glengarry), Upper Canada (Ontario), Canada.)


  Marriage Notes:

The source at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~poaps/FamilyTree.htm and an E-mail from George Cloakey 21 Dec 2009 have their marriage in 1756 in Philadelphia.

However, they may actually have been married on the ship from Hamburg to Philadelphia, which docked on or about 28 September 1753. This would place the year of their marriage in 1753.

According to Ronald Poapst (10/29/11), they were married by the ship's captain on the boat that carried them down the Rhine River when Johan Adam ran away from home. That would have been around 1752.

Sources


1 Personal Documents, Lorna Doone Wallace (Johnson) family documents & photographs.

2 Web - Message Boards, Discussion Groups, Email, Email from George Cloakey 21 Dec 2009.

3 Correspondence, Email from George Cloakey 21 Dec 2009.


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