Leander Jackson "Leading Turtle" Fish
Mary Kathern Large
Solomon Madison Carnal
Hattie Eudora Thomas
Joseph Pascal Fish
Clara Mae Carnal

LeRoy Paschal Fish


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1. Carol Jean Kirk

LeRoy Paschal Fish 2 3

  • Born: 21 Aug 1928, Peoria, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States
  • Christened: 15 Aug 1948, Sambongi, Japan
  • Marriage (1): Carol Jean Kirk on 24 Jun 1950 in Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States 1
  • Died: 6 Sep 1983, Rex Hospital, Raleigh, Wake, North Carolina, United States at age 55
  • Buried: Raleigh Memorial Park, Raleigh, Wake, North Carolina, United States

  Research Notes:

From memoirs of Carol Jean Kirk Fish around 2002:

LeRoy Paschal Fish was born August 21, 1928 in Ottawa County Oklahoma. The mailing address was Baxter Springs Kansas. He was born at home to Clara May Carnal Fish and Joseph Paschal Fish. Clara's father was Solomon Carnal and Joseph's was Leander Jackson Fish. His Grandmother was Mary but I know nothing more about that.

When Joseph was about 12 years old his father served as representative of the Quapaw tribe in Washington DC. Joseph got to be a congressional page. By blood they were primarily Wyandotte-Shawnee, Miami and Delaware, but Paschal Fish, Leander's father, had sold his headright in the Shawnee tribe and been adopted by the Quapaw in Northeastern Oklahoma.

LeRoy was the third child of his mother's marriage; Mary Kathryn was four yrs old and Dorothy May was 18 months. Four years later Frederick Marvin was born, but he died at age two from eating glass from a broken sugar bowl. I do not know that even in this day and age anything could be done for him, but nothing could be done then. Later Clara Eudora was born in 1935 then Wynona Francis in 1937. Their mother was either pregnant with Wynona or Wynona was only three months old when Mr. Fish died of what was believed to be Bright's Disease. LeRoy was 9 years old.

The previous year LeRoy had colitis so badly he had a temperature of 108 degrees and was packed in ice. Although he was in a coma a good deal of the time, he can remember people praying over him. When he came back to the world his mom had little porcelain dogs for him. He said, "they won't have fleas."

The place where they lived was very rural and often if a neighbor wanted to visit in the evening, he or she carried a lantern to light the way. There is a legend in the area about a mysterious light that could be seen coming down the road. LeRoy said that once when his parents sent him to meet the coming guest, there was no one there. According to the story, the corps of engineers investigated these phenomena but found no reason for it. it was called the "Spook Light" and a lot of teenagers used this as an excuse to park on that road and "wait for the light." there are a lot of legends in the area, it is definitely Indian territory; but this is the most popular one.

After Mr. Fish died life became very hard for the family. Clara married the brother of her sister's husband. They lived in Colorado and missed a whole year of school because of weather. ... Clara went back to Oklahoma where she worked in a cafe in Commerce. The two younger girls were placed in a home in Oklahoma City because she couldn't provide for them. Years later when LeRoy got a military allotment for them when he was in the Army Air Force they were able to return Home. I don't know where Kathryn was during this period. At age 14 after a lot of bad happenings for her she divorced him and came home. I think this was when she started working at the drug store. Sometime during this period LeRoy was sent to live with his Uncle Earl Carnal in Arizona. Earl had 2 daughters and a son. LeRoy felt like a true outsider, treated he felt as a poor relation instead of a nephew who was loved. Sometime in here he rode the bus back to Commerce. He had to hunt to find out where his mom was and from that point he stayed with her until he graduated from high school and joined the Army Air Force (it was some time later that Arizona Air Force became separate from the Army).

When he was in the military, he quickly rose to Sergeant and was head of the radar shop where he worked. He was the youngest person there so he grew a mustache to look older. This was in occupied Japan. Although the war was over, the status was still wartime because of the dangers involved in occupying a country.

I know very little else about his early years.

  Christening Notes:

Roman Catholic

  Death Notes:

Source: Certificate of Death.
Cause of Death: Metastatic adenocarcinoma

State of North Carolina Inheritance and Estate Tax Certification File No. 83-E-1060:
:In the Matter of the Estate of: Deceased LeRoy Paschal Fish, Date of Death September 6, 1983"

LeRoy married Carol Jean Kirk, daughter of George Edward Kirk and Hattie Switzer, on 24 Jun 1950 in Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States.1 (Carol Jean Kirk was born on 8 Jul 1932 in Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States, died on 7 Feb 2008 in Raleigh, Wake, North Carolina, United States 2 and was buried on 9 Feb 2008 in Raleigh Memorial Park, Raleigh, Wake, North Carolina, United States.)

  Noted events in their marriage were:

Holy Matrimony: in Holy Roman Catholic Church, 22 May 1954, Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma, United States. Recorded in LeRoy Paschal Fish family Bible.


1 Personal Documents, Family Bible of LeRoy Pascal Fish & Carol Jean Kirk Fish.

2 Fish, Karen Johnson, Fish, George Michael.

3 Personal Documents, Fish, LeRoy Paschal.

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