Jonet Stanley of Hooton 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
- Born: Abt 1380, Hooton, Eastham, Wirral, Cheshire, England
- Marriage (1): Judge Robert Paris Chamberlain of Chester and North Wales about 1397
- Marriage (2): Gwilym ap Gruffydd Lord of Penrhyn after 1405
- Marriage (3): John Pikine
- Died: 1466 about age 86
Other names for Jonet were Jane Stanley, Jane De Stanley, Janet Stanley, Janet de Stanley, Joan Stanley of Hooton and Sioned Stanley.
Note: The present researcher has been unable as yet to find an authoritative source that would definitively answer questions about Jonet Staney's parentage , dates, etc. The reader is advised not to rely on this site as its sole source.
No source authoritatively mentions Jonet's mother. If a mother is mentioned, the sources give different names.
2nd wife of Gwilym ap Gruffydd
From Welsh Biography Online (http://yba.llgc.org.uk/en/s1-GRIF-PEN-1300.html) :
"Some time after 1405 [Gwilym ap Griffith] m. Joan, daughter of Sir William Stanley of Hooton, Ches., thus beginning a long and profitable connexion with the rising star of that family. His son by his first wife inherited only his mother's property at Penmynydd, and he was the ancestor of the later Theodores of that place (see Tudor family, of Penmynydd ). Gwilym ap Griffith d. in 1431, leaving his great possessions in Anglesey and Caernarvonshire to his son by the second marriage. (Penrhyn manuscripts, passim; Trans. Angl. Antiq. Soc., 1951, 34-72; J. R. Jones, 'The development of the Penrhyn estate to 1431', University of Wales M.A. thesis, unpublished.)"
The History of the Princes, the Lords Marcher, and the Ancient Nobility of Powys Fadog, and the Ancient Lords of Arwystli, Cedewen, and Meirionydd, Vol. IV, p. 342 shows her as
"Janet, d. of Sir William Stanley of Hooton, co. Chester, Knt., ab Sir William Stanley, Knt., ab Sir William Stanley, Knt." In other words her father was the 3rd Sir William Stanley in a row, the one designated as "of Hooton." By that line of reasoning, she would have been the daughter of Sir William Stanley (1368-1428), making her birth year of abt 1362 impossible.
According to http://www.penrose.org/getperson.php?personID=I40748&tree=penrose,
Jonet is the daughter of William Stanley (abt 1348-bef 1428) and Margery de Hooton (abt 1352-1430). She had 2 brothers, William and John. She had 3 husbands: Robert Paris, Judge (m. abt 1397), Gwilym ap Gryffydd (m. abt 1400) and John Pikine.
Penrose sources are:
S R Meyrick: Heraldic Visitation of Wales Vol 2 P. 89 (Footnote 1)
J E Griffith: Pedigrees of Anglesey & Caernarvonshire Families pp.106, 185 -- Griffith-Shows all his children as of the 2nd wife except Tudur Vychan of Penmynydd.
From the book Reifsnyder-Gillam Ancestry, edited by Thomas Allen Glenn (Philadelphia, 1902), provided by books.google.com, p. 57:
"VII. LADY JANE TROUTBECK, daughter of Sir William Troutbeck, married Sir William Griffith, Knight, of Penrhyn, in the county of Caernarvon, as appear of record in the Visitations of Lewis Dwnn, II, 154-5, Harl. MSS. No. 1424, fo. 135b., also MS. of the celebrated antiquary, Robert Vaughan, of Hengwrt, Known as the Hengwrt MS. 96, p. 603 (vide Montgomeryshire Collections, by the Powysland Club), vol XXV., page 98. The translation of this MS. is as follows:
'Wm. Vaughan (Vychan) Chamberlain of No. Wales (son of Gwilym ab Gruffydd ab Gullym ab Gruffydd ab Heilen, by his 2d wife Sioned (Jonet) D. of Sir W. Stanley of Hooton, Chamberlain of No. Wales and Chester), and had all the land of his father, and the lands also of Paris, (from whom Paris Mountain), by his mother's influence, and in the 18th year of Henry VI. (1440) he got himself made a denizen of England, under covenant that he should not marry any Welsh woman, so he married Alice, dau. and heir of Sir Richard Dalton, kt., by a daughter of Lord Clifford, his wife. Their son, Sir william Griffith, Hael (the Liberal), m. Jane, dau. of Sir Wm. Troutbeck, Kt., by his wife, a sister to Sir Thomas Stanley.'"
FamilySearch.org Compact Disc #94 Pin #316911 (submitted by Samuel Taylor "Sam" Geer) has b. abt 1400, but that would make her marriage to Judge Robert Paris abt 1397 impossible. The year 1400 is most likely the date of her marriage to Gwilym.
A couple of Rootsweb WorldConnect sources have b. abt 1350, father William Stanley b. abt 1328 of Hooten, Cheshire, England. They were probably all copying from the same source.
Another has her as the daughter of William de Stanley (1319-abt 1388) and Alice Massey (1329- ) of Timperley. The source http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=mjr6387&id=I45150 has her b. 1360 in Hooten, Eastham, Cheshire, England.
Much confusion about her birthdate. There may have been 2 women with the same name in succeeding generations.
Father = William De Stanley the Elder
Mother = Margery De Hooten or ?
Husband 1 = Judge Robert Paris
Husband 2 = Gwilym Ap Gruffydd
Father = William De Stanley
Mother = Alice Massey or ?
Husband 1 = Judge Robert Paris
Husband 2 = Gwilym Ap Gruffydd
Father = Sir Edward Stanley (son of Sir William Stanley)
Glenda Turcks http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=nanatea&id=I33919 gives mother as Alice Massey (wife of earlier William Stanley, b. abt 1319).
Other sources have other dates and even have her the daughter of Sir William Stanley (abt 1319-aft 1362) who was married to Alice de Massy.
Janet is not listed by "The Stanley Family of Hooton, Cheshire" as a daughter of William de Stanley (1378-abt 1428). (www.fintco.demon.co.uk/stanley/ches-hooton.htm). That is the William who married (1) Margery de Hooten, (2) Agnes Beckington, (3) Matilda.
Glenda Turcks http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=nanatea&id=I33919 gives b. abt 1362 & name = Jane Stanley. Several other sources give b. abt 1380.
Jonet married Judge Robert Paris Chamberlain of Chester and North Wales about 1397.
Jonet next married Gwilym ap Gruffydd Lord of Penrhyn, son of Gruffydd ap Gwilym Lord of Penrhyn and Cwchwillan and Generys verch Madog ap Gronwy Fychan, after 1405. (Gwilym ap Gruffydd Lord of Penrhyn was born about 1365 in Penrhyn Castle, Llandegai, (Bangor), Caernarfonshire, (Gwynedd), Wales and died in 1431 in Austria-Hungary.)
Another source has m. abt 1400 (after Robert Paris) - http://www.penrose.org/getperson.php?personID=I40748&tree=penrose
Jonet next married John Pikine.