Johann Paul Pabst
(1705-)
Maria Dorothea Weiss
Johan Adam Papst (U.E.L.)
(Abt 1732-Between 1803/1807)
Eva Marie Ham
(Abt 1736-)

Rudolph Papst
(Abt 1759-1829)

 

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Spouses/Children:
1. Elisabeth Zettell

Rudolph Papst 1 2 3

  • Born: Abt 1759, <(Schoharie)>, New York, (United States)
  • Marriage (1): Elisabeth Zettell on 2 Nov 1786 in Reformed Church, Schenectady, (Schenectady), New York, United States
  • Died: 29 Jul 1829, Toronto, York, Upper Canada (Ontario), Canada about age 70

   Another name for Rudolph was Poapst Rudolph.

  Research Notes:

According to his will, he had 11 children.

From an email by George Cloakey 21 Dec 2009:

"According to Ron Poapst, Rudolph also served in Butler's Rangers (Vermont) with his father. Ron also said Rudolph came to Osnabruck area with father and 200 other German settlers after Indian raiders burned their homes at Schoharie for the third time. He is said to have owned a farm on Young street in what is now part of Toronto."

George Cloakey quotes Bill Hayes:
"Sept 2004, found in the Nor'western & Loyalist Museum in Williamstown, Glengarry County, Museum was the Muster Roll of the 1st Batt. KRRNY. Disbanded Dec. 24th, 1783. Rudolph Papst was 24 years old and born in America. He was in Capt. Joseph Anderson's Company. Also in that company was Mathew Lynk, 18 years old."

George Cloakey quotes Bill Hayes:

"Written by Lt/Col Ervan Amidon was the following. In 1991 he obtained a copy of a letter written in 1971 by Anna Alicia Papst, (died 1983) daughter of Capt. Rudolph Papst (b. 1858). Col. Amidon said he had done a certain amount of editing of the letter. Col. Amidon wrote:

'Rudolph Papst was born in 1750 or 1752 in Germantown, part of Philadelphia. His father was Adam Pabstt who left Bonn (1749 or 1751) in the Archbishopric of Cologne. Adam Pabstt fled to Hamburg where he hid on a British ship. His girl friend and her family were emigrating from the Palatinate on the Rhine, to Philadelphia. I don't know her name. (***Col. Amidon is convinced this was Eva Maria Hamm).

'Adam Pabstt's father was a wealthy merchant who became Burgomaster of Bonn and had hoped to marry his son Adam, to an impoverished baroness. However, the son Adam gave his father the slip and was hidden in a barrel on the ship until the ship sailed from Hamburg. Then Adam Pabstt married the girl aboard ship. The ship sailed from Hamburg to Philadelphia.

'Adam Pabstt was a Roman Catholic and she was a Lutheran. They compromised and both went into the Church of England. Rudolph Papst, their oldest son, was a great church man. After he got his grants of land cleared in Ontario and his houses and his barns built, he learned to make coffins and he gave Christian burial to the dead. Elizabeth (Zettell) Papst was a wonderful midwife. Her charity was taking care of the poor women who were having children. She (Elizabeth) would travel fifty miles to deliver a child and show the mother how to keep her infant alive. Also, Rudolph and his wife, Elizabeth, fed Indians every Sunday.

'My papa, (Rudolph Papst, b. 183 and son of John Joseph Papst) was premature and the doctor from York, Ontario, was not going to bother with him. His grandmother, Elizabeth (Zettell) Papst saved his life. She prepared boxes and filled them with cotton and placed little bottles filled with hot water in the boxes and thus made an incubator. She kept papa (Rudolph b. 1838) until he was five years old, and he spoke, read and wrote German.'"

From George Cloakey 21 Dec 2009:
"'In his Last Will and testament, Rudolph Papst, mentions each of his eleven (11) children, Catharien, Jacob, Mary, Richard, William, Christeen, Henry, John, Adam, Daniel and Anne.' --Records of Lt/Col Amidon

"The Col goes on to point out that on 26 Oct 1797 Rudolph indicated he had five kids, the last one named was Hannah. The Col is of the belief that Hannah was an alternate name for Anna (born 2 Sep 1797)."

From George Cloakey 21 Dec 2009:

"Land transfers Rudolf Papist as discharged from the KRRNY received the original patent from the Crown for lands in Osnabruck; Conc 2 E1/2 lot 13 in 1803 and the W1/2 lot 12 from the crown in 1810, both of which he sold in 1814 to Henry Sheffer(Shaver) . This is the reason that some think he left the area in 1814. Maybe, as his daughter Christeen was married in York in 1811, he could have left the area ca 1811 and then returned in 1814 to sell the lands. There was probably a certain amount of fear among the locals at the start of the war of 1812 and getting away from a potentially 'hot' area might have been seen as a good move. It could also explain why there is so little evidence of the presence of 1777 John in the area, as our cousin Ron maintains, as he calls him 'Navan John.' The battle of Chrysler farms subsequently occurred in this immediate area, another reason to flee, at least temporarily."


  Birth Notes:

According to Rosemary Benson (quoted by George Cloakey 21 Dec 2009), his sons Daniel and John Joseph list their father's birthplace as New York. On the list of Loyalists coming from the colonies to Lower Canada, his age was given as 22 years old in 1781.

  Noted events in his life were:

May have served: in Butler's Rangers in Vermont with his father.

Served: in the 1st Battalion, King's Royal Regiment of New York.

Served: in the Loyal Rangers of the KRRNY under Sir John Johnson.

Served: as a private in Capt. Joseph Anderson's Company, 6th Corps of KRRNY.

Disbanded: The King's Royal Regiment of New York was disbanded, 24 Dec 1783, New York, United States.

Discharged, 24 Jun 1784.

Granted: land in Osnabruck for his service as a Loyalist, Abt Jun 1784, Osnabruck Twp, Lunenburg District (Stormont, Dundas and Glengarry), Quebec (Ontario), Canada. 4

Owned: half of lot 12 in the 2nd concession of Township No. 3 (now Osnabruck), 1 Nov 1786, Osnabruck Twp, Lunenburg District (Stormont, Dundas and Glengarry), Quebec (Ontario), Canada. 5 The other half was owned by James Mordon. On McNiff's map of 1 November 1786 as "Rhdol. Papist."

Census, 1790, Watervliet, Albany, New York, United States. According to George Cloakey 21 Dec 2009, he was living with his father, Adam, at the time of the census, along with his brother John and sister Catherine.

This may not be the same individual, as our Rudolph Papst held land in Ontario at the time.
Babst, Rudolph
1 male 16 and up
2 males under 16
2 females

Witness: Baptism of Rudolph Sheets, 1 Dec 1793, <Lunenburg>, Osnabruck Twp, Stormont, Eastern District (Stormont, Dundas and Glengarry), Upper Canada (Ontario), Canada.

Owned: Conc 2 E1/2 lot 13 in Osnabruck, 1803, Osnabruck Twp, Stormont, Eastern District (Stormont, Dundas and Glengarry), Upper Canada (Ontario), Canada.

Owned: Conc 2 W1/2 lot 12 in Osnabruck, 1810, Osnabruck Twp, Stormont, Eastern District (Stormont, Dundas and Glengarry), Upper Canada (Ontario), Canada.

Residence, by 1814, Toronto, York, Upper Canada (Ontario), Canada.

Sold: his land in Osnabruck to Henry Sheffer (Shaver), 1814.

Served: on Grand Jury, 9 Jul 1816, Upper Canada (Ontario), Canada. Name listed as Randolph Papst.


Rudolph married Elisabeth Zettell on 2 Nov 1786 in Reformed Church, Schenectady, (Schenectady), New York, United States. (Elisabeth Zettell was born about 1767 in <Schenectady>, (Schenectady), New York, (United States), christened on 26 Sep 1768 in Schenectady, (Schenectady), New York, (United States), died on 18 Mar 1858 in Davenport, Scott, Iowa, United States and was buried in Rock Island, Rock Island, Illinois, United States.)


  Marriage Notes:

Sources differ about the place they were married. An alternative is Helderberg, Albany, New York.

Sources


1 http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi, http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:3047155&id=I582481497 (Rosemary Benson).

2 Benson, Rosemary, Our Combined Families (Online family tree hosted by Ancestry.com.), http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:2591631&id=I530970755.

3 <Poaps, Richard A. "Sam">, Papst and Smiley Family History (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~poaps/FamilyTree.htm), http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~poapsFamilyTree.htm.

4 Pringle, J. F, Lunenburgh or the Old Eastern District: Its Settlement and Early Progress (Cornwall, Ontario: Standard Printing House, 1890.), p. 389.

5 Pringle, J. F, Lunenburgh or the Old Eastern District: Its Settlement and Early Progress (Cornwall, Ontario: Standard Printing House, 1890.), p. 408.


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