Husband Thomas Stanley, 1st Earl of Derby 1 2 3
Born: 1435
Christened:
Died: 29 Jul 1504 - Lathom (Latham), Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
Buried:
Father: Sir Thomas de Stanley, K.G., 1st Baron Stanley, Lord Lt. of Ireland (1406-1459) 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Mother: Joan Goushill (Abt 1402-Aft 1459) 7 9 11 12
Marriage:
Other Spouse: Eleanor Neville (Bef 1447-Bef 1482) 9 13 - 1459
Noted events in his life were:
• Battle, of Bosworth Field, 1485
• Created, 1st Earl of Derby, 1485
by Henry Tudor
• Summoned, to Parliament, 1461
in the first year of Edward IV.
• Made, Judge of Chester, 1472
• Made, Constable of England for life, 1486
Wife Lady Margaret Beaufort 14
Born:
Christened:
Died:
Buried:
Children
Research Notes: Husband - Thomas Stanley, 1st Earl of Derby
Stepfather to King Henry VII of England.
Wikipedia (Thomas Stanley, 1st Earl of Derby), Thomas Stanley, 1st Earl of Derby was a maternal ancestor of John Lennon.
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From http://stanleyroots.co.uk/thenorthwest.htm :
"Since 1200 the Stanleys had become important landowners and administrators in north-west England (especially Cheshire and Lancashire), and in 1485 the two brothers Sir Thomas Stanley and Sir William Stanley played a decisive role in winning the Battle of Bosworth for Henry Tudor and therefore in establishing the Tudor dynasty - a feat for which Thomas was created 1st Earl of Derby in 1485. Thereafter, the Earls of Derby were a prominent political force in north-west England for the next four centuries, with the 14th earl becoming Prime Minister three times, in 1852, 1858 and 1866...
"Sir Thomas was 2nd Baron Stanley (his father had been created 1st Baron in 1456), so he is also referred to as Lord Stanley before his creation as Earl of Derby in 1485.
"There had been earlier Earls of Derby (from other families) from 1138 to 1266 and 1337 to 1399, whose title was based on Derby in Derbyshire. Thomas Stanley's title in 1485 therefore had the ring of antiquity, but was based not on Derby but on West Derby, near to the family's estates at Lathom and Knowsley in Lancashire. Lathom House near Ormskirk (Lancashire)(SD4609) was the family's main residence from around 1400 until 1644, when it was largely destroyed by Sir Thomas Fairfax and his Parliamentary forces after a four-month siege during the English Civil War (the Stanleys of Lancashire were Royalists and had been holding out against the dominant Parliamentary forces)."
From Volume 11 of Manx Note Book - http://www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/manxnb/v11p101.htm
THOMAS II. AFTERWARDS THE FIRST EARL OF DERBY, ELDEST SON OF THOMAS I., BARON STANLEY, BY HIS WIFE JOAN, ONLY DAUGHTER AND HEIRESS OF SIR ROBERT GOUSHILL, succeeded his father in 1460. He was summoned to Parliament in the first year of Edward IV. (1461), and in 1472 he was made Judge of Chester. In the Civil war he did good service for the Yorkist cause, his most conspicuous feat being the taking of Berwick by assault. During the greater part of his reign he was steward of the Royal Household, and, having been one of Edward's most devoted adherents, he naturally transferred his allegiance to his son Edward the fifth. When Edward the fourth died, Richard Duke of Gloucester, who was plotting to supplant his nephew on the throne, saw that Stanley would be one of the chief obstacles in his way, and so he contrived to get rid of him by having him arrested on a charge of treason.
When, however, he had succeeded in ascending the throne, he decided that his best policy would be, if possible, to purchase Lord Stanley's allegiance, which he endeavoured to accomplish by making him Constable of England for life and conferring upon him the Order of the Garter. It is well known that this scheme failed and that Lord Stanley largely contributed to Richmond's success at the battle of Bosworth field, after which he is said to have placed the dead Richard's crown on his head,* and to have proclaimed him king as Henry VII. The new king shortly afterwards created him Earl of Derby, and constituted him one of the Lord's Commissioners for executing the office of Lord High Steward at his coronation. In 1486 he was made Constable of England for life. In 1487 he was one of the godfathers of Prince Arthur, Henry VII.'s eldest son.
He took a prominent part in arranging the treaty of Etaples between England and France in 1492. It would seem that he used his wealth nobly, both in relieving the burdens of his people and in promoting public works such as the bridges at Garstang and Warrington, for their welfare. He was the builder of Latham House which became famous through its defence by the 7th Earl's noble consort 150 years later.
Lord Stanley married, firstly, Eleanor 4th daughter of Richard Nevill, Earl of Salisbury, and sister to the Earl of Warwick, the famous " king-maker, " and secondly, Margaret, daughter of the Duke of Somerset and Dowager-Duchess of Richmond, who was King Henry VII.'s mother. By his first wife he had issue 6 sons and 4. daughters, by his second, there was no issue. He died in 1504. It does not appear that he ever visited the Isle of Man, and during his reign the Statute book is a blank.
*It is not certain whether the crown was placed on Henry's head by Lord Stanley or by his brother Sir William Stanley
Research Notes: Wife - Lady Margaret Beaufort
From Wikipedia - Lady Margaret Beaufort : From A History of Altrincham and Bowdon, p. 9: FamilySearch? Rootsweb? AFN: 18GS-7K2
Per History of Altrincham and Bowdon, p. 10, "He died about the end of the reign of King John, or the beginning of that of Henry III., and his wife Agatha survived him."
2nd Earl of Gloucester, Lord of Tewkesbury and Glamorgan Source: Wikipedia - Robert de Beaumont, 2nd Earl of Leicester Ancestral Roots has. d. 1 Jan 1224/1225. Wikipedia has d. 1220.
Source: Wikipedia - Eleanor of Lancaster
From Wikipedia - Alice Comyn : 1. Wikipedia.org, Thomas Stanley, 1st Earl of Derby.
2. Glenn, Thomas Allen, ed, Reifsnyder-Gillam Ancestry. (Philadelphia: (Privately Printed), 1902.), p. 53.
3. Website:, http://stanleyroots.co.uk/thenorthwest.htm.
4. Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 57-36, 20-33.
5. Seacome, John, The History of the House of Stanley From the Conquest to the Death of the Right Honourable Edward, Late Earl of Derby, in 1776. (Manchester: J. Gleave, 1821.), p. 229.
6. Lloyd, Jacob Youde William, The History of the Princes, the Lords Marcher, and the Ancient Nobility of Powys Fadog, and the Ancient Lords of Arwystli, Cedewen, and Meirionydd. (Vol. 4. London: Whiting & Co., 1884.), p. 342.
7. Glenn, Thomas Allen, ed, Reifsnyder-Gillam Ancestry. (Philadelphia: (Privately Printed), 1902.), pp. 52-53.
8. Wikipedia.org, Thomas Stanley, 1st Baron Stanley.
9. Website:, www.whitneygen.org/archives/biography/princewm.html.
10. Website:, http://www.varrall.net/pafg55.htm#1127.
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12. Website:, http://www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/manxnb/v11p101.htm (Manx Notebook v. 11).
13. Periodical, From Manx Note Book Volume 11 http://www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/manxnb/v11p101.htm.
14. Wikipedia.org, Lady Margaret Beaufort.
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16. http://www.familysearch.org, Cit. Date: 19 Jul 2009.
17. Browning, Charles Henry, The Magna Charta Barons and their American Descendants (Philadelphia, 1898.), p. 77.
18. http://www.familysearch.org, Cit. Date: 20 Jul 2009.
19. Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 53-26 (Sir Robert de Beaumont).
20. Browning, Charles Henry, The Magna Charta Barons and their American Descendants (Philadelphia, 1898.), p. 121.
21. Wikipedia.org, Robert de Beaumont, 3rd Earl of Leicester.
22. Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 53-26.
23. http://www.familysearch.org, Cit. Date: 18 Jul 2009.
24. Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 84-27 (Alice de Beaumont).
25. Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 84-27.
26. Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 84-26.
27. Wikipedia.org, Waleran de Beaumont, 4th Earl of Warwick.
28. Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 84-26 (Waleran de Beauont).
29. Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 84-28, 84A-28, 197-28.
30. Wikipedia.org, William de Beauchamp, 9th Earl of Warwick. Cit. Date: 16 Jul 2009.
31. Wikipedia.org, William Maudit, 8th Earl of Warwick. Cit. Date: 16 Jul 2009.
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33. Wikipedia.org, John FitzGeoffrey. Cit. Date: 16 Jul 2009.
34. Wikipedia.org, William I Talvas.
35. Website:, http://masseyfamgenealogy.tripod.com/a31.htm#i3139.
36. Wikipedia.org, William I Talvas. Cit. Date: 11 Sep 2009.
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41. Wikipedia.org, Dunham Massey.
42. http://www.familysearch.org.
43. Website:, Descendants of William De Belleme - http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/s/n/e/Herman-W-Snell/TREE/0003tree.html.
44. Website - Genealogy, genealogy.com (Snell).
45. http://www.familysearch.org, Compact Disc #94 Pin #263527 (submitted by Samuel Taylor "Sam" Geer).
46. Web - Message Boards, Discussion Groups, Email, Post by Scott Denison 28 July 2008 in the Massey Family Genealogy Forum (Genealogy.com).
47. http://www.familysearch.org, Compact Disc #94 Pin #263525 (submitted by Samuel Taylor "Sam" Geer).
48. Ingham, Alfred, A History of Altrincham and Bowdon (Altrincham: Mackie, Brewtnall and Co., 1879). Rec. Date: 27 Mar 2011, pp. 10-11.
49. Ingham, Alfred, A History of Altrincham and Bowdon (Altrincham: Mackie, Brewtnall and Co., 1879). Rec. Date: 27 Mar 2011, p. 10.
50. Ingham, Alfred, A History of Altrincham and Bowdon (Altrincham: Mackie, Brewtnall and Co., 1879). Rec. Date: 27 Mar 2011, p. 9.
51. Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 125-26, 124-26.
52. http://www.familysearch.org, Cit. Date: 1 Aug 2009.
53. Wikipedia.org, Robert, 1st Earl of Gloucester.
54. Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 124-26 (Robert de Caen), 63-26 (Hawise de Beaumont).
55. Wikipedia.org, Mabel FitzHamon of Gloucester. Cit. Date: 4 Sep 2009.
56. Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 53-25.
57. Wikipedia.org, Robert de Beaumont, 2nd Earl of Leicester.
58. Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 53-25 (Robert de Beaumont), 63-25 (Robert de Beaumont).
59. Wikipedia.org, Richard de Clare, 4th Earl of Hertford.
60. Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 63-27.
61. Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 63-27 (Amice).
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63. Wikipedia.org, Alice Comyn.
64. Wikipedia.org, Alexander Comyn, Earl of Buchan.
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66. Wikipedia.org, Eleanor of Lancaster, Alice Comyn.
67. Wikipedia.org, Eleanor of Lancaster.
68. Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 17-30.
69. Wikipedia.org, Henry of Grosmont, 1st Duke of Lancaster; Alice Comyn; Maud Chaworth. Cit. Date: 24 Sep 2009.
"Henry [VII] derived his claim to the English throne from his mother Margaret, and England did not bar women from inheriting the kingship, it is arguably she and not her son who should have claimed the crown. Margaret did not contest Henry's right to rule; however, she occasionally used the signature Margaret R, a form limited to queens regnant . (See discussion below.)
Margaret was twelve when she married Edmund on 1 November 1455 . Edmund died the following November, leaving a thirteen year old widow who was seven months pregnant with their child, Henry. Margaret and her son retired to Pembroke when the wars between Lancaster and York broke out and remained there until the Yorkist triumphs of 1461. The readeption of 1470 saw her return to court but her son fled to Brittany with his uncle, Jasper Tudor .[1]
Margaret was to marry twice more after Edmund's death:
She had no children with either, and it has been suggested by historians that the birth of her son Henry when she was only thirteen years old was difficult enough to render her infertile.
[edit ] The King's Mother
Margaret was instrumental in secretly conspiring against King Richard III with the Dowager Queen Consort, Elizabeth Woodville , whose sons, the Princes in the Tower , were presumed murdered. They were aided by the fact that Margaret's third husband, Thomas Stanley, had switched sides because Richard III held captive his eldest son, George Stanley (styled Lord Strange by marriage to the female holder of that hereditary lordship). George was Thomas Stanley's son by his first wife, Eleanor Neville, whose brother, Richard Neville was very active in the Wars of the Roses. Margaret was Thomas Stanley's second wife.
At the end of the Battle of Bosworth Field in 1485, it was Thomas Stanley who placed the crown on his stepson's - Henry VII's - head. Stanley was later made Earl of Derby, which made Margaret Countess of Derby, but she was styled "The Countess of Richmond and Derby."
With her son winning the crown at Bosworth Field, Margaret was now referred to in court as "My Lady the King's Mother." However, Margaret was reluctant to accept a lower status than the dowager queen consort Elizabeth Woodville or even her daughter-in-law, Elizabeth of York , the current queen consort . She wore robes of the same quality as the queen consort and walked only half a pace behind her.
Margaret sometimes signed herself Margaret R, the form of signature used by English queens regnant to indicate the title "Regina," the feminine form of "Rex." This referenced Margaret's own potential claim to the English throne, which would have had precedence over her son's claim, though she never asserted it. Had she successfully done so, she would have been a queen regnant - ruling in her own right, not through marriage - and entitled her to sign documents with the suffix "Regina." (See "Marriages" above for more on Margaret's own right to the English throne.)
Many historians believe the banishment of Woodville in 1487 by Henry VII of England was partly at the behest of his influential mother. Margaret was known for her education and her piety, and her son is said to have been devoted to her."
Husband John Wentworth, of Elmshall, Yorkshire 15
Born: Abt 1370
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Father: John Wentworth, of North Elmshall, Yorkshire (Abt 1345-Aft 1413) 15
Mother: Agnes Dronsfield, of West Bretton, Yorkshire (Abt 1350- ) 15
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Wife < > Beaumont, of Whitby Hall, Yorkshire 15
Born: Abt 1375
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1 M Roger Wentworth, of Nettlestead, Suffolk 15
Born: Abt 1395
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Died: 24 Oct 1452 - Nettlestead, Suffolk, England
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Spouse: Margaret Despenser, of Nettlestead, Suffolk (1397-1478) 15
Marr: Jun 1423 - Nettlestead, Suffolk, England
Husband Hugh de Grentemesnil, Lord of Hinckley, Ashby-Legers, Northamptonshire 16 17
Born: Abt 1030 - <Grentemesnil>, Calvados, Normandy, France
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Died: 22 Feb 1094 - Leicestershire, England
Buried:
Father: Robert de Grentemesnil (Abt 0990-1039) 16
Mother: Hawise d'Echafour (Abt 1007- ) 16
Marriage:
Noted events in his life were:
• Lord High Steward of England
Wife Adelhyde de Beaumont 17 18
AKA: Adeliza de Beaumont, Alice de Beaumont
Born: Abt 1035 - Beaumont, France
Christened:
Died: 11 Jul 1091 - Rouen, Seine-Inferieure, France
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Father: Yves II Beaumont, Count of Beaumont-sur-Oise (Abt 1005- ) 18
Mother: Judith ( - ) 18
Children
1 M Ives Grentemesnil 16
AKA: Ivo Grandmesnil
Born: Abt 1064 - <Grentemesnil, Calvados, Normandy, France
Christened:
Died: 1118
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Spouse: Felia de Gaunt (Abt 1070- ) 18
Marr: Abt 1094 - Leicestershire, England
Husband Hugh de Grandmesnil 16 19 20
AKA: Hugh de Grentemaisnil, Hugh de Grentmesnil
Born: Abt 1092 - <Hinckley>, Lancastershire, England
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Father: Ives Grentemesnil (Abt 1064-1118) 16
Mother: Felia de Gaunt (Abt 1070- ) 18
Marriage:
Noted events in his life were:
• Lord High Steward of England
Wife Alice Beaumont 18
Born: Abt 1105 - <Hinckley>, Lancastershire, England
Christened:
Died: - <Reims, Marne, Champagne, France>
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Father: Ivo de Beaumont (Abt 1010- ) 18
Mother: Adele ( - ) 18
Children
1 F Petronilla de Grandmesnil 16 19 21
AKA: Pernelle de Grandmesnil, Petronella de Grentemaisnil, Petronille de Grentmesnil
Born: Abt 1134 - <Leicestershire>, England
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Died: 1 Apr 1212 - Leicester, Leicestershire, England
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Spouse: Sir Robert de Beaumont, 3rd Earl of Leicester (Abt 1121-1190) 21 22 23
Marr: Abt 1155
Husband William Mauduit, Lord of Hanslope & Hartley Mauduit, Bucks. 24
Born:
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Died: Apr 1257
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Father: Robert Mauduit, Lord of Hanslope, Bucks. ( -1222) 24
Mother: Isabel Basset ( - ) 24
Marriage:
Noted events in his life were:
• Chamberlain of the Exchequer
Wife Alice de Beaumont 25
Born:
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Died: Betw 1246 and 1263
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Father: Waleran de Beaumont, 4th Earl of Warwick (Bef 1153-1204) 26 27
Mother: Alice de Harcourt ( -Aft 1212) 28
Children
1 F Isabel Mauduit 29 30 31
Born: Abt 1214
Christened:
Died: Bef 1268
Buried: - Nunnery of Cokehill, Worcestershire, England
Spouse: William de Beauchamp, 5th Baron Beauchamp (Abt 1210-1269) 30 32 33
2 M William Mauduit, 8th Earl of Warwick 31
Born: Abt 1220
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Died: 8 Jan 1267
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Husband Arnulf de Beaumont 34
AKA: Rodulf de Beaumont Vicomte de Beaumont
Born: Abt 950
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Father: Berthold I , von Babenberg (Abt 0915- )
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1 F Hildegarde de Beaumont 34
AKA: Bildeburge de Beaumont
Born: Abt 1002
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Spouse: William I Talvas, Lord of Bellême and Alençon (Abt 0995-Abt 1048) 35 36
Marr: Bef 1034
Husband Roger de Toeni 37
Born: Abt 1156 - <Flamsted, Hertfordshire>, England
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Died: Abt Jan 1209
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Father: Ralph de Toeni, de Conches (Abt 1130-1162) 37
Mother:
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Wife Constance de Beaumont 38
Born: Abt 1202 - <Flamsted, Hertfordshire>, England
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Died: Aft 1226
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Father: Richard de Beaumont (Abt 1176- ) 38
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Children
1 M Ralph de Toeni 37
Born: Abt 1190 - <Flamsted, Hertfordshire>, England
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Died: Abt 29 Sep 1239
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Spouse: Petronilla de Lacy (Abt 1195-Aft 1288) 38
Marr: Bef 1234
Death Notes: Child - Ralph de Toeni
Husband Hamon II Massey 39
Born: Abt 1100 - Cheadle, Cheshire, England
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Died: Abt 1140 - Dunham Massey, Bucklow, Cheshire, England
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Father: Hamon de Massey, 1st Baron de Dunham (Bef 1056-1101) 40 41 42 43 44 45 46
Mother: Margaret Sacie (Abt 1077- )
Marriage: Abt 1124 - Dunham Massey, Bucklow, Cheshire, England
Wife Eleanor Beaumont
Born: Abt 1100 - Cheshire, England
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1 M Hamon III Massey 47 48
AKA: Hamo de Masci [III]
Born: Abt 1129 - Dunham Massey, Bucklow, Cheshire, England
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Died: Abt 1216 - Dunham Massey, Bucklow, Cheshire, England
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Spouse: Agatha de Theray ( - ) 49
2 M Robert Massey
Born: Abt 1130 - Dunham Massey, Bucklow, Cheshire, England
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3 M John Massey
Born: Abt 1127 - Dunham Massey, Bucklow, Cheshire, England
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Research Notes: Husband - Hamon II Massey
"The second Hamon had issue Hamon, a son and heir, and Robert Massey, from whom sprang the Masseys of Sale. This is probably the Hamon Massey who is noticed in one of the ancient chronicles as having held the Castle of Dunham against Henry II. in 1173, during the rebellion of which Hugh Earl of Chester was principal leader. He gave the lands of Bramhall, or Bromale, to Matthew de Bromale by charter..." 50
Research Notes: Wife - Eleanor Beaumont
Death Notes: Child - Hamon III Massey
Husband William FitzRobert, 2nd Earl of Gloucester
Born: Abt 1128
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Died: 23 Nov 1183
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Father: Robert de Caen, 1st Earl of Gloucester (Abt 1090-1147) 51 52 53
Mother: Mabel FitzHamon, of Gloucester (1090-1157) 52 54 55
Marriage: Abt 1150
Wife Hawise de Beaumont, of Leicester
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Died: 24 Apr 1197
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Father: Sir Robert de Beaumont, 2nd Earl of Leicester (1104-1168) 23 56 57
Mother: Amice de Gael de Montfort (Abt 1108-1168/1169) 23 57 58
Children
1 F Amice FitzWilliam, Countess of Gloucester 59 60
AKA: Amica FitzRobert, Amice FitzRobert Countess of Gloucester
Born: Abt 1160
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Died: 1 Jan 1225
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Spouse: Richard de Clare, 6th Earl of Clare (Abt 1153-1218) 59 61 62
Marr: Abt 1180
Research Notes: Husband - William FitzRobert, 2nd Earl of Gloucester
2nd Earl of Gloucester, Lord of the manor of Glamorgan and of Cardiff Castle
Source: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 by Frederick Lewis Weis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr, ed. by William R. Beall & Kaleen E. Beall (Baltimore, 2008), line 123-27.
Also line 63-26 (Hawise de Beaumont)
Research Notes: Wife - Hawise de Beaumont, of Leicester
Also Source: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 by Frederick Lewis Weis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr, ed. by William R. Beall & Kaleen E. Beall (Baltimore, 2008), line 63-26
Death Notes: Child - Amice FitzWilliam, Countess of Gloucester
Husband Henry Beaumont, 4th Earl of Buchan
Born: Abt 1288
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Died: 1340
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Father: Louis de Brienne, Viscount of Beaumont ( - ) 63
Mother: Agnes ( - ) 63
Marriage: Bef 14 Jul 1310
Wife Alice Comyn 63
Born: 1289 - Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Died: 3 Jul 1349
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Father: Alexander Comyn ( - ) 64
Mother: Joan le Latimer ( - ) 64
Children
1 M John de Beaumont, Earl of Buchan, 2nd Lord Beaumont 65 66
Born: 1318
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Died: 14 Apr 1342
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Spouse: Eleanor , of Lancaster (Abt 1318-1372) 67 68
Marr: 6 Nov 1330 63
2 F Isabel de Beaumont 63
Born: Abt 1320
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Died: 1361
Buried:
Spouse: Henry of , Grosmont, 1st Duke of Lancaster (Abt 1310-1361) 69
Marr: 1337 63
Research Notes: Husband - Henry Beaumont, 4th Earl of Buchan
Research Notes: Wife - Alice Comyn
Alice Comyn, Lady Beaumont, Countess of Buchan (1289- 3 Jul 1349), was a Norman-Scottish noblewoman, being a member of the powerful Comyn family that supported the Balliols , who were claimants to the disputed Scottish throne against their rivals, the Bruces . She was the niece of John Comyn, Earl of Buchan to whom she was also heiress. The Earldom of Buchan, however, was later claimed by Alice's husband Henry de Beaumont , Earl of Buchan by right of his wife.
Alice was the maternal grandmother of Blanche of Lancaster , and thus great-grandmother of King Henry IV of England .
It was her husband's continued struggle to claim her inherited title of Buchan which was one of the causes of the Second War of Scottish Independence .
Family
Alice was born in Aberdeenshire , Scotland in 1289, the eldest daughter of Alexander Comyn, Sheriff of Aberdeen and Joan le Latimer. She had a younger sister, Margaret who would later marry firstly Sir John Ross; and secondly, Sir William Lindsay, Lord of Symertoun.[1]
Alice's paternal grandparents were Alexander Comyn , 2nd Earl of Buchan, Justiciar and Constable of Scotland, and Elizabeth de Quincy . Alice's maternal grandparents were William le Latimer and Alicia Ledet. Alice's uncle was John Comyn, Earl of Buchan, one of the most powerful nobles in Scotland. The earl, who died in December 1308, was married to Isabella MacDuff , but the marriage was childless. Alice was John Comyn's heiress to the title of Countess of Buchan, although the earldom had been forfeited to the crown prior to her uncle's death in England to where he had gone as a fugitive.
Marriage and children
Shortly before 14 July 1310, Alice married Henry de Beaumont, Lord Beaumont, the son of Louis de Brienne, Viscount de Beaumont and Agnes, Viscountess de Beaumont. Upon her marriage she was styled as Lady Beaumont. Henry was a key figure in the Anglo-Scottish wars of the 13th and 14th centuries. (See main article: Wars of Scottish Independence ) As a consequence of her marriage to Henry, Alice had become, in Scottish eyes, irretrievably English, therefore the Scots recognised her sister Margaret's right to the Earldom of Buchan rather than her own. [2]
The marriage produced ten children:[3]
In April 1313, Isabella MacDuff, the widow of Alice's uncle John Comyn, was placed into the custody of the Beaumonts, following her release from her harsh imprisonment. She had been confined in a cage for four years in Berwick , England by the orders of King Edward I after she crowned Robert the Bruce king of Scotland at Scone in March 1306. In 1310, she was sent to a convent, and three years later was ordered to one of the Beaumont manors where she died on an unknown date.
In 1314, Henry de Beaumont fought at the Battle of Bannockburn on the side of the English.
Sometime between 1317 and 1321, Alice succeeded to the English estates of her younger sister, Margaret. On 22 January 1334, Alice's husband Henry was summoned to Parliament as the Earl of Buchan. He was recognised as earl from that until 16 November 1339. On 10 February 1334, he sat in the Scottish Parliament bearing the same title. It was Henry's relentless pursuit of the earldom of Buchan which was one of the factors that lead to the Second War of Scottish Independence between the Comyns and their ancient rivals, the Bruces .
Alice died on 3 July 1349 at the age of sixty. Her husband Henry had died in 1340 in the Low Countries where he had gone with King Edward III of England . With the death of Alice, the earldom of Buchan forever passed out of the Comyn family.
Alice's numerous descendants included, Kings Henry IV of England and Henry V of England , Philippa of Lancaster , Queen of Portugal, Anne Boleyn , and Humphrey Kynaston , the English highwayman .
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