Husband Gwilym ap Gruffydd Lord of Penrhyn
AKA: Gwilym ap Gruffudd ap Gwilym of Penrhyn
Born: Abt 1365 - Penrhyn, Llandegai, Caernarfonshire, Wales
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Died: 1431 - Austria-Hungary
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Father: Gruffydd ap Gwilym Lord of Penrhyn and Cwchwillan (Abt 1322-1405)
Mother: Generys verch Madog ap Gronwy Fychan (Abt 1326- )
Marriage: After 1405
Other Spouse: Morvyn verch Grono ap Tudor ( - )
Wife Sioned Stanley
AKA: Jane Stanley, Jane De Stanley, Janet Stanley, Janet de Stanley, Jonet Stanley of Hooton
Born: Abt 1362 - Hooton, Eastham, Wirral, Cheshire, England
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Died: 1466
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Father: William de Stanleigh "The Elder", Lord of Stanley, Storeton & Hooton (Abt 1337-1398)
Mother: Margery de Hooton (1342-1430)
Other Spouse: Judge Robert Paris Chamberlain of Chester and North Wales ( - ) - Abt 1397
Other Spouse: John Pikine ( - )
Children
1 M Sir William Griffith of Penrhyn, Chamberlain of North Wales
AKA: William Griffith Fychan, Gwilym Fychan ap Gwilym, William Fychan ap Gwilym of Penrhyn, 1st Chamberlain of North Wales, William Vaughan ab Gwilym Chamberlain of North Wales, Gwilym Fychan ap Gwilym ap Gruffydd of Penrhyn, 1st Chamberlain of North Wales, William Vaughan 1st Chamberlain of North Wales
Born: 1415 - Penrhyn, Llandegai, Caernarfonshire, Wales
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Died: 1483 - Austria-Hungary
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Spouse: Alice Dalton (Abt 1425-1483)
Marr: 1444 - Apthorp, Northamptonshire, England
2 F Elin verch Gwilym
AKA: Ellin verch Gwilym ap Griffith of Penrhyn, Elen verch Gwilym Fychan
Born: Abt 1404
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Spouse: William Bulkeley Esq., of Cheadle, Constable of Beaumaris Castle ( - )
3 F Angharad vz Gwilym
Born: Abt 1407
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Birth Notes (Husband)
Glenda Turcks http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=nanatea&id=I33919 gives b. abt 1330, d. abt 1431. Another source says b. abt 1365.
Research Notes (Husband)
Rootsweb (?) has b. c.1365, name Gwilym ap Gruffydd (which sounds more correct)
FamilySearch.org Compact Disc #94 Pin #316910
(submitted by Samuel Taylor "Sam" Geer) nas name as Gwilyn ap Gruffudd and b. 1376.
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=mjr6387&id=I64690 has b. abt 1376 in Penrhyn and d. 1431 in Austria-Hungary.
Several Rootsweb WorldConnect sources have b. abt 1383 and d. 1395, son of Gruffydd ap Gwilym b. abt 1354.
Source: The History of the Princes, the Lords Marcher, and the Ancient Nobility of Powys Fadog, and the Ancient Lords of Arwystli, Cedewen, and Meirionydd by J. Y. W. Lloyd, Vol. IV, London, 1884, p. 342 shows him as "Gwilym ab Gruffydd, Lord of Penrhyn," the second son of "Gruffydd Gwilym, Lord of Penrhyn and Cwchwillan," who was the second son of "Gwilym Gruffydd, Lord of Penrhyn and Cwchwillan."
Birth Notes (Wife)
Glenda Turcks http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=nanatea&id=I33919 gives b. abt 1362 & name = Jane Stanley. Another source gives b. abt 1380.
Research Notes (Wife)
2nd wife of Gwilym ap Gruffydd
Who were her parents? Much confusion in the sources. Seems to be Sir William Stanley, but which one? And who was her mother? One source (The History of the House of Stanley, 1821) has an extra William Stanley not appearing in other sources.
Needs more research.
Source: The History of the Princes, the Lords Marcher, and the Ancient Nobility of Powys Fadog, and the Ancient Lords of Arwystli, Cedewen, and Meirionydd by J. Y. W. Lloyd, Vol. IV, London, 1884, p. 342 shows her as "Janet, d. of Sir William Stanley of Hooton, co. Chester, Knt., ab Sir William Stanley, Knt., ab Sir William Stanley, Knt." In other words her father was the 3rd Sir William Stanley in a row, the one designated as "of Hooton." By that line of reasoning, she would have been the daughter of Sir William Stanley (1368-1428), making her birth year of abt 1362 impossible.
According to http://www.penrose.org/getperson.php?personID=I40748&tree=penrose, Jonet is the daughter of William Stanley (abt 1348-bef 1428) and Margery de Hooton (abt 1352-1430). She had 2 brothers, William and John. She had 3 husbands: Robert Paris, Judge (m. abt 1397), Gwilym ap Gryffydd (m. abt 1400) and John Pikine. Penrose sources:
S R Meyrick: Heraldic Visitation of Wales Vol 2 P. 89 (Footnote 1)
J E Griffith: Pedigrees of Anglesey & Caernarvonshire Families pp.106, 185 -- Griffith-Shows all his children as of the 2nd wife except Tudur Vychan of Penmynydd.
Other sources have other dates and even have her the daughter of Sir William Stanley (abt 1319-aft 1362) who was married to Alice de Massy.
Janet is not listed by "The Stanley Family of Hooton, Cheshire" as a daughter of William de Stanley (1378-abt 1428). (www.fintco.demon.co.uk/stanley/ches-hooton.htm). That is the William who married (1) Margery de Hooten, (2) Agnes Beckington, (3) Matilda.
From the book Reifsnyder-Gillam Ancestry, edited by Thomas Allen Glenn (Philadelphia, 1902), provided by books.google.com, p. 57:
"VII. LADY JANE TROUTBECK, daughter of Sir William Troutbeck, married Sir William Griffith, Knight, of Penrhyn, in the county of Caernarvon, as appear of record in the Visitations of Lewis Dwnn, II, 154-5, Harl. MSS. No. 1424, fo. 135b., also MS. of the celebrated antiquary, Robert Vaughan, of Hengwrt, Known as the Hengwrt MS. 96, p. 603 (vide Montgomeryshire Collections, by the Powysland Club), vol XXV., page 98. The translation of this MS. is as follows:
'Wm. Vaughan (Vychan) Chamberlain of No. Wales (son of Gwilym ab Gruffydd ab Gullym ab Gruffydd ab Heilen, by his 2d wife Sioned (Jonet) D. of Sir W. Stanley of Hooton, Chamberlain of No. Wales and Chester), and had all the land of his father, and the lands also of Paris, (from whom Paris Mountain), by his mother's influence, and in the 18th year of Henry VI. (1440) he got himself made a denizen of England, under covenant that he should not marry any Welsh woman, so he married Alice, dau. and heir of Sir Richard Dalton, kt., by a daughter of Lord Clifford, his wife. Their son, Sir william Griffith, Hael (the Liberal), m. Jane, dau. of Sir Wm. Troutbeck, Kt., by his wife, a sister to Sir Thomas Stanley.'"
No source mentions Jonet's mother.
Rootsweb or FamilySearch AFN: FPWD-WQ
FamilySearch.org Compact Disc #94 Pin #316911
(submitted by Samuel Taylor "Sam" Geer) has b. abt 1400, but that would make her marriage to Judge Robert Paris abt 1397 impossible. The year 1400 is most likely the date of her marriage to Gwilym.
A couple of Rootsweb WorldConnect sources have b. abt 1350, father William Stanley b. abt 1328 of Hooten, Cheshire, England. They were probably all copying from the same source.
Another has her as the daughter of William de Stanley (1319-abt 1388) and Alice Massey (1329- ) of Timperley. http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=mjr6387&id=I45150. That source has her b. 1360 in Hooten, Eastham, Cheshire, England.
Much confusion about her birthdate. There may have been 2 women with the same name in succeeding generations.
Scenario #1:
Father = William De Stanley the Elder
Mother = Margery De Hooten or ?
Husband 1 = Judge Robert Paris
Husband 2 = Gwilym Ap Gruffydd
Scenario #2:
Father = William De Stanley
Mother = Alice Massey or ?
Husband 1 = Judge Robert Paris
Husband 2 = Gwilym Ap Gruffydd
Glenda Turcks http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=nanatea&id=I33919 gives mother as Alice Massey (wife of earlier William Stanley, b. abt 1319).
Notes (Marriage)
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=mjr6387&id=I64457
Another source has m. abt 1400 (after Robert Paris) - http://www.penrose.org/getperson.php?personID=I40748&tree=penrose
Husband Jevan ap Gruffydd of Englefield, Flintshire
AKA: Ieuan ap Gruffydd ap Madog Ddû of Copa'r Goleuneu in Tegeingl
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1 F Gwenhwyvar verch Jevan ap Gruffydd
AKA: Gwen verch Ieuan ap Gruffydd
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Spouse: Gruffydd ab Heilen ( - )
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Source: Annals and Antiquities of the Counties and County Families of Wales by Thomas Nicholas, Vol. I, London, 1872, p. 362
Husband Llywelyn Ddu "the Black" ap Gruffydd
AKA: Llywelyn "the Black" ap Gruffydd
Born: Abt 1300
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Father: Gruffydd ap Iorwerth Voel of Ys Coed ( - )
Mother: Gwervyl verch Owen Vaughan ap Owen Lord of Meghein ( - )
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Wife Margred verch Madog Fychan
AKA: Marrett ferch Madoc Vaughan
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Father: Madog Fychan ap Madog of Trevor ( - )
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1 F Angharad verch Llywelyn Ddu
Born: Abt 1332
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Spouse: David ap Philip Hanmer (Abt 1328-After 1383)
Research Notes (Husband)
RootsWeb - Celtic Royal Genealogy
Source: Collections Historical & Archaeological Relating to Montgomeryshire, and its Borders, Vol. XIII. (London, 1880), "The Tanat Pedigree", p. 122 - "Llewelyn Dd. 2nd son of Griffith. (The like.) = Marrett, dau. of Madoc Vaghan ap Madoc of Trevor (Party persinister, er. and erminois, a lion ramp. or.)
Research Notes (Wife)
RootsWeb - Celtic Royal Genealogy
Source: Collections Historical & Archaeological Relating to Montgomeryshire, and its Borders, Vol. XIII. (London, 1880), "The Tanat Pedigree", p. 122 - "Llewelyn Dd. 2nd son of Griffith. (The like.) = Marrett, dau. of Madoc Vaghan ap Madoc of Trevor (Party persinister, er. and erminois, a lion ramp. or.)
Husband Pyers Gruffydd of Penrhyn
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Father: Sir Rhys Griffith of Penrhyn, High Sheriff for Caernarvon ( - )
Mother: Catherine of Talacre ( - )
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Research Notes (Husband)
From The History of the Princes, the Lords Marcher, and the Ancient Nobility of Powys Fadog, and the Ancient Lords of Arwystli, Cedewen, and Meirionydd by J. Y. W. Lloyd, Vol. IV (London, 1884), p. 342:
"He married Margaret, d. of Sir Thomas Mostyn of Mostyn, Knt. He bought and fitted out a ship at his own expense, and was present at the defeat of the Spanish Armada. He also accompanied Drake and Raleigh in a subsequent expedition against the Spaniards, and was subsequently obliged to mortgage his estate of Penrhyn, which was sold to the mortgagees in 1616. In 1622 it was purchased by his cousin, John Williams, Archbishop of York, Lord Keeper of the Great Seal in 1620, a descendant, through a female, from its former possessors. Pyers Gruffydd was buried in Westminster Abbey. The mortgagees were Ieuan Lloyd, Esq., and Sir Richard Trevor."
Husband Rhys ap Gruffydd of Nant in Tegeingl
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Father: Gruffydd ap Gwilym Lord of Penrhyn and Cwchwillan (Abt 1322-1405)
Mother: Generys verch Madog ap Gronwy Fychan (Abt 1326- )
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Research Notes (Husband)
Source: The History of the Princes, the Lords Marcher, and the Ancient Nobility of Powys Fadog, and the Ancient Lords of Arwystli, Cedewen, and Meirionydd by J. Y. W. Lloyd, Vol. IV, London, 1884, p. 342 shows him as "Rhys ab Gruffydd of Nant in Tegeingl ancestor of the Hugheses of Prestatyn and Feydor, and of the Lloyds of Nant, who left two daughters co-heirs: 1st, Janet, ux. Henry Wynn Conwy of Nant; and, 2ndly, Catherine, ux. Cadwaladr ab Maurice Gethin of Y Voelas."
Source: Annals and Antiquities of the Counties and County Families of Wales by Thomas Nicholas, Vol. I, London, 1872, p. 362 has "Rhys ap Gruffydd, of Nant, co. of Flint, whose representatives maternally are Wynne-Finch of Voelas, and the Wynne Conways of Nant."
Husband Cadwaladr ap Gruffydd ap Cynan
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Father: Gruffudd ap Cynan Prince of North Wales (Gwynedd) (1055-1137)
Mother: Angharat verch Owain ap Edwin of Tegaingl ( - )
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1 M Richard ap Cadwaladr
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Source: Annals and Antiquities of the Counties and County Families of Wales by Thomas Nicholas, Vol. I, London, 1872, p. 362.
Husband Guilym ap Gruffydd ap Heilen Lord of Penrhyn and Cwchwillan
AKA: Gwilym ap Griffith
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Died: After 1353
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Father: Gruffydd ab Heilen ( - )
Mother: Gwenhwyvar verch Jevan ap Gruffydd ( - )
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Wife Eva verch Gruffydd ap David of Cwchwillan
AKA: Efa verch Griffith ap David of Cochwillan
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Father: Gruffydd ap David ap Tudor ( - )
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1 M Gruffydd ap Gwilym Lord of Penrhyn and Cwchwillan
AKA: Gruffydd ap Guilym
Born: Abt 1322 - Penrhyn, Caernarvonshire, Wales
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Died: 1405 - Austria-Hungary
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Spouse: Generys verch Madog ap Gronwy Fychan (Abt 1326- )
2 M Bleddyn ap Gwilym
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Research Notes (Husband)
Cochwillan adjoins the Penrhyn estate.
Source: The History of the Princes, the Lords Marcher, and the Ancient Nobility of Powys Fadog, and the Ancient Lords of Arwystli, Cedewen, and Meirionydd by J. Y. W. Lloyd, Vol. IV, London, 1884, p. 341 "Gwilym ab Gruffydd, Lord of Penrhyn and Cwchwillan." This source swaps the wives of this Gwilym ab Gruffydd and Gruffydd ap Heilen (Gwen verch Ieuan ab Gruffydd vs. Efa verch Gruffydd ap David).
Which is correct??
Source: A Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Landed Gentry of Great Britain & Ireland" by John Burke & John Bernard Burke, vol. I, London, 1847, p. 736 has:
"The eldest son [of Heilin ap Tudor and Agnes verch Bloddyn], GRIFFITH AP HEILIN, was father of GWILYM AP GRIFFITH, living 26 EDWARD III., who m. Efa, dau. of Griffith ap David, of Cochwillan, eldest son of Tudor ap Madoc, Lord of Penrhyn, in Caernarvon, (who d. about 1284,) grandson of Yarddyr ap Cynddelw, Lord of Uchaf, and had two sons, 1. Bleddyn ap Gwilym... 2. Griffith ap Gwilym, of Penrhyn"
Source: Annals and Antiquities of the Counties and County Families of Wales by Thomas Nicholas, Vol. I, London, 1872, p. 362, "Gwilym ap Gruffydd, of Cochwillan, living 1353, m. Efa, dau. of Gruffydd ap Tudor of Cochwillan ap Tudor ap Madoc, Lord of Penrhyn, co. of Carnarvon, and grandson of Jarddur ap Cynddelw, Lord of Llechwedd-uchaf, great forester of Snoden, by whom he was father of two sons:-- 1. Gruffydd... 2. Bleddyn ap Gwilym..."
Research Notes (Wife)
Source: A Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Landed Gentry of Great Britain & Ireland" by John Burke & John Bernard Burke, vol. I, London, 1847, p. 736 has:
"The eldest son [of Heilin ap Tudor and Agnes verch Bloddyn], GRIFFITH AP HEILIN, was father of GWILYM AP GRIFFITH, living 26 EDWARD III., who m. Efa, dau. of Griffith ap David, of Cochwillan, eldest son of Tudor ap Madoc, Lord of Penrhyn, in Caernarvon, (who d. about 1284,) grandson of Yarddyr ap Cynddelw, Lord of Uchaf, and had two sons, 1. Bleddyn ap Gwilym... 2. Griffith ap Gwilym, of Penrhyn"
Was Efa his wife? Or was she Gwen (i.e., swapped)? Swapping them (Eva as wife of Gruffydd ap Heilen) would bring Penrhyn and Cwchwillan into the family one generation sooner.
Source: The History of the Princes, the Lords Marcher, and the Ancient Nobility of Powys Fadog, and the Ancient Lords of Arwystli, Cedewen, and Meirionydd by J. Y. W. Lloyd, Vol. IV, London, 1884, p. 341, places Eva as the wife of Gruffydd ab Heilin, swapping her with Gwen. From that source re. Eva: "Eva, d. and heiress of Gruffydd ab David ab Tudor ab Madog of Penrhyn and Cwchwillan, son and heir of Iarddur, of Penrhyn and Cwchwillan, Lord of Llecchwedd Uchaf and Creuddyn, and Grand Forester of Snowdon."
Husband John ap Gruffydd ap Ievan of Abergoydolwyn, Merioneth
Born: 1522 ? - <Talley, Carmarthenshire, Wales>
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Died: After 1583
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Father: Gruffyd ap Ievan ap Owen of Abergydolwyn (Bef 1516-After 1550)
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1 M Rhydderch ap John ap Gruffyd of Abergydolwyn, Merioneth
AKA: Rhydderch ap Sion of Abergydolwyn, Merioneth
Born: 1548 ? - Talley, Carmarthenshire, Wales
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Died: After 1583
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Spouse: Marianne verch Owen ap David ( - )
Marr: 1583
Research Notes (Husband)
Source: FamilySearch.org (11/10/06) has b. abt 1522 in <Talley, Carmarthenshire, Wales>.
"Rhydderch ap John, of Abergydolwyn, living 1583, was a son of John ap Gruffyd, of Abergydolwyn, grantee in a deed 1 February, 1553, and living 1583, son of Gruffyd ap Ievan, of Abergydolwyn, grantee in a deed 1516, living 1550, son of Ievan ap Owen, of Abergydolwyn, which Owen was born about 1430. Nothing further is known concerning the ancestry of the Abergydolwyn family.
Husband Howell ap Gruffydd ap Iorwerth
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Father: Gruffydd ap Iorwerth ap Madog ( - )
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1 M Rowland ap Howell ap Gruffydd of Caer Geilwg
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Research Notes (Husband)
Source: The History of the Princes, the Lords Marcher, and the Ancient Nobility of Powys Fadog, and the Ancient Lords of Arwystli, Cedewen, and Meirionydd by J. Y. W. Lloyd, Vol. VI (London, 1887), p. 202
Husband Iorwerth ap Gruffydd ap Iorwerth Lord of Cwmwd, Menai
Born: Cir 1280
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Father: Gruffydd ap Iorwerth ap Maredudd Lord of Cwmwd Lhivon (Cir 1250- )
Mother: Gwenllian ferch Hywel ( - )
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Wife Gwladys ferch Hywel Goch
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Father: Hywel Goch ap Iorwerth ( - )
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1 M Iorwerth Dha ap Iowerth ap Gruffydd
Born: Cir 1310
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Spouse: Gwenllian ferch Meredith ( - )
Research Notes (Husband)
Source: http://www.varrall.net/pafg44.htm#964 Note: Lord of Cwmwd, Menai
Research Notes (Wife)
Source: http://www.varrall.net/pafg44.htm#964