Johnson-Wallace & Fish-Kirk Family Groups



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Sir John Stanley of Weever, Cheshire




Husband Sir John Stanley of Weever, Cheshire

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         Father: Sir Thomas de Stanley K.G., 1st Baron Stanley, Lord Lt. of Ireland (1406-1459)
         Mother: Joan Goushill (Abt 1402-After 1459)






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Source: Reifsnyder-Gillam Ancestry, edited by Thomas Allen Glenn (Philadelphia, 1902), provided by books.google.com, p. 53.

This may be the same person as:
Source: The History of the House of Stanley from the Conquest to the Death of the Right Honourable Edward, Late Earl of Derby, in 1776 by John Seacomb (Manchester, 1821) [courtesy of books.google.com], p. 229 "JOHN Stanleigh, of Greswithin, in the C. of Cumberland, the youngest son."

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John [I] Stanley




Husband John [I] Stanley

           Born: Abt 1220
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         Father: William [I] de Stanleigh (Abt 1170-Abt 1236)
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John de Stanley




Husband John de Stanley

            AKA: John Stanley of Storeton
           Born: 1392
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         Father: William de Stanleigh "The Elder", Lord of Stanley, Storeton & Hooton (Abt 1337-1398)
         Mother: Margery de Hooton (1342-1430)



Noted events in his life were:
• Charter, Quitclaim by Humphrey, Earl of Stafford, to John de Stanley, esq. (Storeton), 1446

Source: www.fintco.demon.co.uk/stanley/ches-hooton.htm




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John de Stanley




Husband John de Stanley

           Born: Abt 1314 - Grestwithen, Cumberland, England
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           Died: After 1346
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         Father: John de Stanleigh Lord of Stanley and Storeton (Abt 1285-Abt 1346)
         Mother: Mabel Hawksket (Abt 1290-      )






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http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=mjr6387&id=I143020

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Margaret Stanley




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Wife Margaret Stanley

           Born: Abt 1395
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         Father: Sir John de Stanley Lord Lieutenant of Ireland and Lord of Man (1340-1413)
         Mother: Isabel Lathom (Abt 1364-1414)





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Source: Glenda Turcks http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=nanatea&id=I33919

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Sir William Troutbeck of Pyrns Castle in Worrill, Lord of Dunham and Margaret Stanley




Husband Sir William Troutbeck of Pyrns Castle in Worrill, Lord of Dunham

            AKA: Sir William Troutbek
           Born: 1434 or 1435 - Dunham-on-the-Hill, Cheshire, England
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           Died: 23 Sep 1459 - Battle of Blore Heath, Blore Heath, Staffordshire, England
         Buried:  - Troutbeck Chapel in St. Mary's, Chester, England


         Father: Sir John Troutbeck of Dunham, Camberlain of Chester (      -      )
         Mother: Margaret Hulse (      -      )


       Marriage: 1449




Wife Margaret Stanley

           Born:  - Lathom, Lancashire, England
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         Father: Sir Thomas de Stanley K.G., 1st Baron Stanley, Lord Lt. of Ireland (1406-1459)
         Mother: Joan Goushill (Abt 1402-After 1459)



   Other Spouse: Sir John Botler Baron of Warrington (1429-1463) - 1460

   Other Spouse: Lord ? Grey of Codnor (      -      ) - 2 Oct 1465

Noted events in her life were:
• Dispensation, to marry Sir John Boteler, 1459



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1 F Jane Troutbeck

            AKA: Joan Troutbeck
           Born: Abt 1457 - Mobberly, Dunham, Cheshire, England
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         Spouse: Sir William Griffith Lord of Penrhyn Castle, Chamberlain of North Wales (Abt 1445-Abt 1539)
           Marr: Caernarvon, Wales
         Spouse: Sir William Botler of Bewsey (      -      )



2 M Sir William Troutbeck

           Born: Abt 1444
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         Spouse: Johanne filie Johis (      -      )



3 M Adam Troutbeck of Mobberly

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         Spouse: Margaret Boteler (      -      )



4 M Thomas Troutbeck

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5 F Alice Troutbeck

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6 F Elizabeth Troutbeck

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         Spouse: Sir Alexander Houghton (      -      )




Birth Notes (Husband)

According to Reifsnyder-Gilliam Ancestry, "[William Troutbeck] was aged 23 years in 37 Henry VI. (1458), and was therefore born 1434-5. "

Another source has b. abt 1432.


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Per Wikipedia (Joan Gousell), killed in the Battle of Blore Heath on 23 September 1459


Research Notes (Husband)

Wikipedia - get more.

Source: http://www.varrall.net/pafg55.htm#1125

Rootsweb.com

From Welsh Settlement of Pennsylvania by Charles H. Browning, Philadelphia, 1912, p. 286: "Sir William Troutbeck, lord of Prynes Castle, Cheshire, who was slain in the battle of Bloreheath". What is the correct spelling of the castle?

From the book Reifsnyder-Gillam Ancestry, edited by Thomas Allen Glenn (Philadelphia, 1902), provided by books.google.com, p. 53-56:

"VI. LADY MARGARET STANLEY, eldest daughter of Thomas, Lord Stanley, married Sir William Troutbeck, of Pryns Castle in Worrill, Cheshire, Lord of Dunham. Sir William Troutbeck, Knight, was son and heir of Sir John Troutbeck, Knight, of Dunham, Chamberlain of Chester, and was aged 23 years in 37 Henry VI. (1458), and was therefore born 1434-5. The following Inq. P. M. is proof of his birth and age:

'Inq. P. M. (37, not) 38, H. VI. John Troutbek held (no lands of the King or Prince on his decease) in demesne, as of fee (but by his charter of 22 Feby., 35 Hen. VI., had granted to Johi Comiti Arondel, Johi Beamond, Vicund de Beamond, John Sutton dno de Dudley, Thomas Stanley, Thome Parre, Rico Turnstall, Thome de Convey, Militibz, Petro de Ardern Justic dni Regis de coi Banco, Gilbto Parre, Johi Pulesdon, Rico Pulesdon, Mag'ro Andree Holes, Clico, Hugoni Pembton, Rico Asshawe, Thome Bellamond, Clico, and others)--the manors of Brinstath, Dunham, Troghford, and Budworth, cum pert. with lands in Carnesdale, Barneston, Oxton, Tranmore, Upton, Raby, L. Newton, Hergreave, Newton in Wirrill, Chester, Handbridge, Woodchurch, Christelton, Ledsham, Pickmere, Moberley, Newton Juxta le Midelwich, and the avowson (of the Church) of Moberley for use for life. Ob. die Sabbi px post festum Sci Bartholomei Apli ultimo, Wills Troutbeck filius & heres, aet. 23, ann. in festo Sce Margarete Virginis ultimo).'

Sir William Troutbeck was married in the year 1449, when aged only about fourteen years, to the Lady Margaret Stanley, and was slain at the battle of Blore-Heath on the 23d September, 1459, fighting under the command of Lord Auderley, in the Lancasterian cause. He was buried in the Troutbeck Chapel in St. Mary's, Chester. A tomb was erected there to his memory, and is thus described: 'It was a faire tombe of one of the Troutbecks. The man all in riche armour, with a riche border of pearles, and stones, about his head, on the helmet. On the front of the helmet, over his forehead, was graven Jeshu Nazarenus Rex. All the plates and edges of his armour curiously wrought, as it were imbracery, with a collar of S.S. about his neck, of gold, one gauntlet in his hand, and his wife's hand in the other. Under his feet a lion couchant; under his head, a helmet mantled, having on it a wreath of trouts and a moores head. She hath her head richly attired, with a veil over her head, with a blue gown, and a short surcoat of black. At her feet a lamb, and two angels supporting the cushions under her head.'

"The Troutbeck Aisle or Chapel, which was built in the reign of Henry VI., by William Troutbeck, fell down not many years after the pulication of the 'Vale Royal,' by King, and destroyed the tombs. The third Randal Holmes says, that for the fineness of the work, the monuments of the Troutbecks were thought to exceed anything of that kind in England. (Harl. MS. 2151, fo. 16b.)

"The battle of Blore-Heath was fought on St. Tecla's Day, 23 September, 1459, was fatal to the men of Cheshire. Among those left dead upon the field were Sir Thomas Button, Sir John Done, Sir Hugh Venables, Sir Richard Monineux, Sir William Troutbeck, Sir John Leigh, and Sir John Egerton. (Records Corporation of Macclesfield.)

"The following is proof of the death of the said William Troutbeck, and as it gives the age of his eldest son, fixes the date of his marriage:

'Inq. M. (b. de mand.) 4 Edw. Iv. Sir William Troutbek, knight, held the manors of Great Troughford, Dunham, and Hole from Henry, late King of France, "et non de jure Rege Angliae sexto,' with lands therein, valued at XL marks per annum. Also the manors and advowsons of Moberley, the manors of Brunstath, Raby and Budworth, half of L. Neston, and one-fifth of Hargreave; (the manors of Elton and Oxton, and a moiety of the ville of Pykmere;) with lands in Hargreave, Barneston, Carnesdale, Ledsham, Woodchurch, Eccleston, Chester Hulme, Kinderton, Bereton, Newton, Cogshull, Xtlton, Tattenhall, Bridge Troughford, Elton, Oxton, Pickmere, Thingwall, Tranmere, Upton, and Wirswall. William Troutbek, son and heir, (aet. 15 ann. et maritatus Johanne filie Johis. Botiller Militis, and ward of the latter by grant of the King, 8 Jan. 2 Edw. IV).'

"For evidences of the marriage of Sir William Troutbeck and Margaret Stanley, see Dougdale, vol. II., page 248, (et E. Stemmate) wherein he states that Sir Thomas, Lord Stanley, left 'issue" three sons, Thomas, William and John; and two daughters, Margaret, married to Sir William Troutbeck, Knight, and Elizabeth to Sir Richard Molineux, Knight' See also Collins' Peerage of England, vol. III., page 40, etc. Edition 1779, London, Pedigree of Troutbeck of Dunham, by Robert Glover, Somerset Herald, for William Flower, Nortry King-at-arms; visitations of Cheshire, 1580 (Harl. MS. 1424, fo. 1287). Printed Edition, London, 1882, by John Paul Rylands, F.S.A.--Also, Harl. MS. 1424, fo. 136b, Pedigree of Troutbeck of Dunham, by William Beaumont, Esq. of Oxford Hall (see Hist. Cheshire, by George Ormerod, Revised Edition). Also visitations of Wales by Lewis Dwnn, Penrhyn Pedigree. The best evidence, however, is the Dispensation, dated 23 January, 1459 (O. S.) (or 1460, N.S.) to Margaret, widow of William Troutbeck and daughter of Thomas Lord Stanley, deceased, to marry Sir John Botler, Knight, which marriage took place in 1460, and the said Sir John, dying 26 February, 1463, the said Margaret married, thirdly, 2 October, 1465, Lord Grey, of Codnor.

"It should be remembered that the month of January, 1459, is four months after September, and not prior to it, the year not beginning then until March.

"The children of Sir William Troutbeck and the Lady Margaret were:
1. William Troutbeck 'aet. 15 years, 4 Edw. IV., ward of Sir John Botler, alias Butler, by grant of the King, 8 January, 2 Edw. IV.,' married to Johannes, daughter of the said Sir John. No issue.
2. Adam Troutbeck; his heiress married John Talbot, ancestor of the Earls of Shrewsbury.
3. Thomas Troutbeck.
4. Alice Troutbeck.
5. Jane Troutbeck, married 1st, Sir William Botler, of Bewsey, Knight, and 2ndly, Sir William Griffith, of Penrhyn, Knight; of whom presently.
6. Elizabeth Troutbeck, married Sir Alexander Houghton, Knight."


Research Notes (Wife)

Source: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 by Frederick Lewis Weis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr, ed. by William R. Beall & Kaleen E. Beall (Baltimore, 2008), Line 20-34 has m. (1) Sir William Troutbeck 1459 [probably should be 1449-see below], (2) Sir John Boteler 1460, (3) Lord Grey of Codnor.

Source also: http://www.varrall.net/pafg55.htm#1125

Rootsweb.com

From the book Reifsnyder-Gillam Ancestry, edited by Thomas Allen Glenn (Philadelphia, 1902), provided by books.google.com, p. 53-56:

"VI. LADY MARGARET STANLEY, eldest daughter of Thomas, Lord Stanley, married Sir William Troutbeck, of Pryns Castle in Worrill, Cheshire, Lord of Dunham. Sir William Troutbeck, Knight, was son and heir of Sir John Troutbeck, Knight, of Dunham, Chamberlain of Chester, and was aged 23 years in 37 Henry VI. (1458), and was therefore born 1434-5. The following Inq. P. M. is proof of his birth and age:

'Inq. P. M. (37, not) 38, H. VI. John Troutbek held (no lands of the King or Prince on his decease) in demesne, as of fee (but by his charter of 22 Feby., 35 Hen. VI., had granted to Johi Comiti Arondel, Johi Beamond, Vicund de Beamond, John Sutton dno de Dudley, Thomas Stanley, Thome Parre, Rico Turnstall, Thome de Convey, Militibz, Petro de Ardern Justic dni Regis de coi Banco, Gilbto Parre, Johi Pulesdon, Rico Pulesdon, Mag'ro Andree Holes, Clico, Hugoni Pembton, Rico Asshawe, Thome Bellamond, Clico, and others)--the manors of Brinstath, Dunham, Troghford, and Budworth, cum pert. with lands in Carnesdale, Barneston, Oxton, Tranmore, Upton, Raby, L. Newton, Hergreave, Newton in Wirrill, Chester, Handbridge, Woodchurch, Christelton, Ledsham, Pickmere, Moberley, Newton Juxta le Midelwich, and the avowson (of the Church) of Moberley for use for life. Ob. die Sabbi px post festum Sci Bartholomei Apli ultimo, Wills Troutbeck filius & heres, aet. 23, ann. in festo Sce Margarete Virginis ultimo).'

Sir William Troutbeck was married in the year 1449, when aged only about fourteen years, to the Lady Margaret Stanley, and was slain at the battle of Blore-Heath on the 23d September, 1459, fighting under the command of Lord Auderley, in the Lancasterian cause. He was buried in the Troutbeck Chapel in St. Mary's, Chester. A tomb was erected there to his memory, and is thus described: 'It was a faire tombe of one of the Troutbecks. The man all in riche armour, with a riche border of pearles, and stones, about his head, on the helmet. On the front of the helmet, over his forehead, was graven Jeshu Nazarenus Rex. All the plates and edges of his armour curiously wrought, as it were imbracery, with a collar of S.S. about his neck, of gold, one gauntlet in his hand, and his wife's hand in the other. Under his feet a lion couchant; under his head, a helmet mantled, having on it a wreath of trouts and a moores head. She hath her head richly attired, with a veil over her head, with a blue gown, and a short surcoat of black. At her feet a lamb, and two angels supporting the cushions under her head.'

"The Troutbeck Aisle of Chapel, which was built in the reign of Henry VI., by William Troutbeck, fell down not many years after the pulication of the 'Vale Royal,' by King, and destroyed the tombs. The third Randal Holmes says, that for the fineness of the work, the monuments of the Troutbecks were thought to exceed anything of that kind in England. (Harl. MS. 2151, fo. 16b.)

"The battle of Blore-Heath was fought on St. Tecla's Day, 23 September, 1459, was fatal to the men of Cheshire. Among those left dead upon the field were Sir Thomas Button, Sir John Done, Sir Hugh Venables, Sir Richard Monineux, Sir William Troutbeck, Sir John Leigh, and Sir John Egerton. (Records Corporation of Macclesfield.)

"The following is proof of the death of the said William Troutbeck, and as it gives the age of his eldest son, fixes the date of his marriage:

'Inq. M. (b. de mand.) 4 Edw. Iv. Sir William Troutbek, knight, held the manors of Great Troughford, Dunham, and Hole from Henry, late King of France, "et non de jure Rege Angliae sexto,' with lands therein, valued at XL marks per annum. Also the manors and advowsons of Moberley, the manors of Brunstath, Raby and Budworth, half of L. Neston, and one-fifth of Hargreave; (the manors of Elton and Oxton, and a moiety of the ville of Pykmere;) with lands in Hargreave, Barneston, Carnesdale, Ledsham, Woodchurch, Eccleston, Chester Hulme, Kinderton, Bereton, Newton, Cogshull, Xtlton, Tattenhall, Bridge Troughford, Elton, Oxton, Pickmere, Thingwall, Tranmere, Upton, and Wirswall. William Troutbek, son and heir, (aet. 15 ann. et maritatus Johanne filie Johis. Botiller Militis, and ward of the latter by grant of the King, 8 Jan. 2 Edw. IV).'

"For evidences of the marriage of Sir William Troutbeck and Margaret Stanley, see Dougdale, vol. II., page 248, (et E. Stemmate) wherein he states that Sir Thomas, Lord Stanley, left 'issue" three sons, Thomas, William and John; and two daughters, Margaret, married to Sir William Troutbeck, Knight, and Elizabeth to Sir Richard Molineux, Knight' See also Collins' Peerage of England, vol. III., page 40, etc. Edition 1779, London, Pedigree of Troutbeck of Dunham, by Robert Glover, Somerset Herald, for William Flower, Nortry King-at-arms; visitations of Cheshire, 1580 (Harl. MS. 1424, fo. 1287). Printed Edition, London, 1882, by John Paul Rylands, F.S.A.--Also, Harl. MS. 1424, fo. 136b, Pedigree of Troutbeck of Dunham, by William Beaumont, Esq. of Oxford Hall (see Hist. Cheshire, by George Ormerod, Revised Edition). Also visitations of Wales by Lewis Dwnn, Penrhyn Pedigree. The best evidence, however, is the Dispensation, dated 23 January, 1459 (O. S.) (or 1460, N.S.) to Margaret, widow of William Troutbeck and daughter of Thomas Lord Stanley, deceased, to marry Sir John Botler, Knight, which marriage took place in 1460, and the said Sir John, dying 26 February, 1463, the said Margaret married, thirdly, 2 October, 1465, Lord Grey, of Codnor.

"It should be remembered that the month of January, 1459, is four months after September, and not prior to it, the year not beginning then until March.

"The children of Sir William Troutbeck and the Lady Margaret were:
1. William Troutbeck 'aet. 15 years, 4 Edw. IV., ward of Sir John Botler, alias Butler, by grant of the King, 8 January, 2 Edw. IV.,' married to Johannes, daughter of the said Sir John. No issue.
2. Adam Troutbeck; his heiress married John Talbot, ancestor of the Earls of Shrewsbury.
3. Thomas Troutbeck.
4. Alice Troutbeck.
5. Jane Troutbeck, married 1st, Sir William Botler, of Bewsey, Knight, and 2ndly, Sir William Griffith, of Penrhyn, Knight; of whom presently.
6. Elizabeth Troutbeck, married Sir Alexander Houghton, Knight."

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Margaret de Stanley




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Wife Margaret de Stanley

            AKA: Margery de Stanley
           Born: 1320 - Storeton, Bebbington, Cheshire, England
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           Died: 1426 - England
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         Father: John de Stanleigh Lord of Stanley and Storeton (Abt 1285-Abt 1346)
         Mother: Mabel Hawksket (Abt 1290-      )





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Glenda Turcks http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=nanatea&id=I33919 has b. abt 1321
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Thomas Venables Baron of Kinderton and Margery de Stanley




Husband Thomas Venables Baron of Kinderton

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Wife Margery de Stanley

            AKA: Margaret de Stanley
           Born: Abt 1415
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         Father: Sir William de Stanley of Hooton (1368-1428)
         Mother: Blanche Arderne (Abt 1362-      )





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Maud Stanley




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Wife Maud Stanley

            AKA: Matilda Stanley, Matildes Stanley
           Born: Abt 1358
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         Father: William de Stanlegh Lord of Stanlegh and Storeton (1311-1360)
         Mother: Alice Massey of Timperley (Abt 1339-Abt 1364)





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Source: Glenda Turcks http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=nanatea&id=I33919

Source: The Baronetage of England by E. Kimber and R. Johnson, London, 1771, vol. 2 (courtesy of books.google.com), p. 206 has "William, his son, lord of Stanley, &c. living 26 Edw. III, married Alicia, daughter of Hugh Massey, de Timperly, sister to Sir Hamond Massey, Knt. and had issue by her William de Stanley, lord of Stanley, &c. living 10 Rich. II. Henry, Matildes, and John."

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Piers Stanley




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1 F Catherine Stanley

           Born:  - Ewlo Castle, Flintshire, Wales
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         Spouse: Sir John Puleston of Tir Môn and Havod y Wern (Abt 1480-1551)
           Marr: 1510 - Denbighshire, Wales




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http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=aet-t&id=I79894



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