The Johnson-Wallace & Fish-Kirk Families



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Ieuan Llwyd, of Gorddinog




Husband Ieuan Llwyd, of Gorddinog (details suppressed for this person)

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1 F Marsli verch Ieuan Llwyd (details suppressed for this person)

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         Spouse: Llywelyn ap Heilyn, of Bodorgan (Cir 1400-      ) 1 2 3




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Dwg ap Llywarch




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           Born: Cir 525
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         Father: Llywarch ap Elidir (Cir 0484-      ) 5
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1 M Gwair ap Dwg 6

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Einion ap Llywarch ap Rhys




Husband Einion ap Llywarch ap Rhys (details suppressed for this person)

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         Father: Llywarch ap Rhys ap Aeddan, Lord of Grismwnt
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1 M Ievan ap Einion, of Llanfendigaid (details suppressed for this person)

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Gruffudd ap Llywelyn and Efa verch Madog




Husband Gruffudd ap Llywelyn

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1 F Angharad ferch Gruffudd (details suppressed for this person)

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         Spouse: Dafydd ap Gronwy, of Llai (living)




Research Notes: Husband - Gruffudd ap Llywelyn

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Thomas ap Llywelyn ap Owain, of Iscoed Uch Hirwen, Cardiganshire and Eleanor ferch Philip ap Ifor




Husband Thomas ap Llywelyn ap Owain, of Iscoed Uch Hirwen, Cardiganshire 7 8

            AKA: Thomas ap Llewellyn ap Owain of Iscoed Uch Hirwen, Cardiganshire, Thomas ap Llewellyn Owen of Trefgarned, Lord of South Wales, Thomas ap Llywelyn Arglwydd Iscoed
           Born: Bef 14 Aug 1343
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         Father: Llywelyn ap Owain ap Maredudd (      -1309)
         Mother: < > de Vale 9


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Wife Eleanor ferch Philip ap Ifor

            AKA: Eleanor Goch verch Philip
           Born: 1318
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         Father: Philip ap Ifor, Lord of Is Coed
         Mother: Catherine verch Llewellyn Gryffyth





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1 F Elen verch Thomas ap Llewellyn Owen

            AKA: Eleanor Llwellyn, Elen Llwellyn, Ellen verch Thomas ap Llewellin, Eleanor verch Thomas ap Llewellyn Owen, Helen verch Thomas ap Llwellyn
           Born: Abt 1337
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         Spouse: Gruffydd Fychan II ap Gruffydd ap Madog, of Rhuddallt, Baron of Glyndyfrdwy (Bef 1330-1369)



2 F Margaret verch Thomas ap Llywelyn Owain (details suppressed for this person)

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Research Notes: Husband - Thomas ap Llywelyn ap Owain, of Iscoed Uch Hirwen, Cardiganshire

From Wikipedia - Gruffydd Fychan II :

"Gruffydd Fychan II was married to Elen, daughter of Thomas ap Llwelyn lord of half the of commote Iscoed Uch Hirwen and of quarter of Gwynonydd , both in Cardiganshire."


Research Notes: Wife - Eleanor ferch Philip ap Ifor

Source: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 by Frederick Lewis Weis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr, ed. by William R. Beall & Kaleen E. Beall (Baltimore, 2008)., Line 254-33 (Thomas ap Llewellyn)

RootsWeb - Celtic Royal Genealogy - has b. 1318.
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Rhirid ap Llywelyn ap Owain ap Edwyn




Husband Rhirid ap Llywelyn ap Owain ap Edwyn (details suppressed for this person)

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         Father: Llywelyn ap Owain ap Edwyn
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1 M Madog Ddû ap Rhirid ap Llywelyn (details suppressed for this person)

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David ap Philip Hanmer and Angharad verch Llywelyn Ddu




Husband David ap Philip Hanmer

           Born: Abt 1328
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         Father: Philip Hanmer
         Mother: Annes verch Dafydd


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Wife Angharad verch Llywelyn Ddu

           Born: Abt 1332
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         Father: Llywelyn Ddu "the Black" ap Gruffydd (Abt 1300-      )
         Mother: Margred verch Madog Fychan





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1 M Gruffydd Hanmer, Esq., of Hanmer, Flintshire (details suppressed for this person)

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         Spouse: Angharad verch Tudur (living)




Research Notes: Husband - David ap Philip Hanmer

RootsWeb - Celtic Royal Genealogy


Research Notes: Wife - Angharad verch Llywelyn Ddu

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Maelgwn Fychan ap Maelgwn ap Rhys, Lord of Cardigan Is Ayron and Angharad ferch Llywelyn Fawr




Husband Maelgwn Fychan ap Maelgwn ap Rhys, Lord of Cardigan Is Ayron

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         Father: Maelgwn ap Rhys
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Wife Angharad ferch Llywelyn Fawr (details suppressed for this person)

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         Father: Llywelyn the Great , Prince of Gwynedd (Abt 1173-1240)
         Mother: Tangwystl verch Llywarch (Abt 1168-      )





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1 F Elen ferch Maelgwn Fychan (details suppressed for this person)

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         Spouse: Maredudd ap Owain ap Gruffudd, Lord of Cardigan Uch Ayron (      -1265)




Research Notes: Husband - Maelgwn Fychan ap Maelgwn ap Rhys, Lord of Cardigan Is Ayron

Source: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 by Frederick Lewis Weis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr, ed. by William R. Beall & Kaleen E. Beall, Baltimore, 2008, Line 254-29 (Angharad)
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Robert II de Quincy and Elen ferch Llywelyn Fawr




Husband Robert II de Quincy 10 11

            AKA: Robert de Quincey, Robert the Younger de Quincey
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           Died: 1257 - <Palestine>
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         Father: Saher IV de Quincy, 1st Earl of Winchester (1155-1219) 12 13
         Mother: Margaret de Beaumont (Abt 1156-Abt 1235) 14 15 16


       Marriage: Aft 1237

   Other Spouse: Hawise , of Chester, Countess of Lincoln (1180-Betw 1241) 17 18

Noted events in his life were:
• Crusader




Wife Elen ferch Llywelyn Fawr 13 19

            AKA: Helene, Elen verch Llywelyn, Helen verch Llywelyn
           Born: Abt 1207
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         Father: Llywelyn the Great , Prince of Gwynedd (Abt 1173-1240)
         Mother: Joan , Princess of Gwynedd (Bef 1200-Betw 1236) 20 21 22





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Research Notes: Husband - Robert II de Quincy

Second son named Robert.

From Wikipedia - Saer de Quincy, 1st Earl of Winchester :

Robert de Quincy (second son of that name; d. 1257) who married Helen , daughter of the Welsh prince Llywelyn the Great ;

"Robert (d. 1217). Some sources say he married Hawise, sister and co-heiress of Ranulf de Blundeville, earl of Chester . However, it is more likely Hawise married Saer's brother Robert II;"
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Ancestral Roots, Line 54-28 (Robert II de Quincy), has "d.v.p. bef. 1232,... m. Hawise of Chester (125-29), b. 1180, d. 1241/3, Countess of Lincoln." The "d.v.p. bef. 1232 makes him appear to be the first Robert.



Research Notes: Wife - Elen ferch Llywelyn Fawr

If Robert II de Quincy was the husband of Hawise of Chester, Elen was his second wife. Magna Charta Barons lists only Elen and has her as the mother of his 3 daughters. Magna Charta Barons is not a reliable source.

From Wikipedia - Elen ferch Llywelyn :

Elen ferch Llywelyn (c. 1206 - 1253) was the daughter of Llywelyn the Great of Gwynedd in north Wales .

The records of Llywelyn's family are confusing, and it is not certain which of his children were illegitimate, but Elen appears to have been his legitimate daughter by Joan , illegitimate daughter of King John of England .

Elen married John de Scotia, Earl of Chester , in about 1222. He died aged thirty in 1237, and she re-married, her second husband being Sir Robert de Quincy . Their daughter, Hawise , was married to Baldwin Wake , Lord Wake of Lidel. Hawise and Baldwin's granddaughter, Margaret Wake , was the mother of Joan of Kent , later Princess of Wales. Thus the blood of Llywelyn Fawr passed into the English royal family through King Richard II .

There is also a record of a "Helen" daughter of "Llywelyn of Wales" who married Mormaer Maol Choluim II, Earl of Fife and later married Domhnall I, Earl of Mar . The dates appear to rule out this being Elen, since Maol Chaluim II did not die until 1266 while Elen's death is recorded in 1253. Some genealogists propose the existence of another Elen, an illegitimate daughter born towards the end of Llywelyn's life, but there is no clear evidence for this. Another possibility is that this Helen might have been an illegitimate daughter of Llywelyn the Last born when he was a young man, but there is also no evidence of the theory being true. More likely this lady was Susannah ferch Llywelyn ab Iorwerth , who was sent to England in 1228 and married the earl of Fife in the summer of 1237.[1]


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Skuli Lofdasson




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           Born: Abt 548 - <Norway>
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         Father: Lofdi Halfdansson (Abt 0498-      ) 23
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1 M Egdir Skulasson 23

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Sources


1. Website:, http://www.varrall.net/pafg43.htm#947.

2. Lloyd, Jacob Youde William, The History of the Princes, the Lords Marcher, and the Ancient Nobility of Powys Fadog (Vol. 6. London: Whiting & Co., 1887.), p. 202.

3. Honourable Society of Cymmrodorion, Dictionary of Welsh Biography (National Library of Wales. 2007. Welsh Biography Online. <http://wbo.llgc.org.uk/en/index.html> ), ttp://yba.llgc.org.uk/en/s-MEYR-BOD-1485.html.

4. Website:, http://www.varrall.net/pafg59.htm#1169.

5. Website:, http://www.varrall.net/pafg59.htm#1170.

6. Website:, http://www.varrall.net/pafg59.htm#1168.

7. Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 254-33.

8. Wikipedia.org, Gruffydd Fychan II.

9. Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 254-32 (Llewellyn ap Owain).

10. Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 54-28.

11. Browning, Charles Henry, The Magna Charta Barons and their American Descendants (Philadelphia, 1898.), p. 102.

12. Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 53-27 (Margaret de Beaumont).

13. Wikipedia.org, Saer de Quincy, 1st Earl of Winchester.

14. Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 53-27.

15. http://www.familysearch.org, Cit. Date: 18 Jul 2009.

16. Wikipedia.org, Hugh de Vere, 4th Earl of Oxford; Robert de Beaumont, 3rd Earl of Leicester.

17. Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 125-29, 54-28 (Robert II de Quincy).

18. Wikipedia.org, Hugh de Kevelioc, 5th Earl of Chester.

19. Wikipedia.org, Elen ferch Llywelyn.

20. Davies, John, A History of Wales. (Rev. ed. New York: Penguin Group, 2007.), http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_of_England.

21. Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 29A-27.

22. Wikipedia.org, John of England; Llywelyn the Great.

23. http://www.familysearch.org, Cit. Date: 24 Jul 2009.

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Sources


1 Website:, http://www.varrall.net/pafg43.htm#947.

2 Lloyd, Jacob Youde William, The History of the Princes, the Lords Marcher, and the Ancient Nobility of Powys Fadog (Vol. 6. London: Whiting & Co., 1887.), p. 202.

3 Honourable Society of Cymmrodorion, Dictionary of Welsh Biography (National Library of Wales. 2007. Welsh Biography Online. <http://wbo.llgc.org.uk/en/index.html> ), ttp://yba.llgc.org.uk/en/s-MEYR-BOD-1485.html.

4 Website:, http://www.varrall.net/pafg59.htm#1169.

5 Website:, http://www.varrall.net/pafg59.htm#1170.

6 Website:, http://www.varrall.net/pafg59.htm#1168.

7 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 254-33.

8 Wikipedia.org, Gruffydd Fychan II.

9 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 254-32 (Llewellyn ap Owain).

10 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 54-28.

11 Browning, Charles Henry, The Magna Charta Barons and their American Descendants (Philadelphia, 1898.), p. 102.

12 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 53-27 (Margaret de Beaumont).

13 Wikipedia.org, Saer de Quincy, 1st Earl of Winchester.

14 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 53-27.

15 http://www.familysearch.org, Cit. Date: 18 Jul 2009.

16 Wikipedia.org, Hugh de Vere, 4th Earl of Oxford; Robert de Beaumont, 3rd Earl of Leicester.

17 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 125-29, 54-28 (Robert II de Quincy).

18 Wikipedia.org, Hugh de Kevelioc, 5th Earl of Chester.

19 Wikipedia.org, Elen ferch Llywelyn.

20 Davies, John, A History of Wales. (Rev. ed. New York: Penguin Group, 2007.), http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_of_England.

21 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 29A-27.

22 Wikipedia.org, John of England; Llywelyn the Great.

23 http://www.familysearch.org, Cit. Date: 24 Jul 2009.


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